Plane carrying Syrian refugees arrives in Toronto, met by Prime Minister Trudeau

SifuPhil said:
I agree with the antiquity.

The remedy? Again, not so sure. How do you help others when you can't help yourself? That's like asking a man with no arms to massage the kinks out of your neck.

Some "remedies", like those in the Bible, are there not to actually work - they're there to keep the upper classes from having to exert themselves in helping the poor. "Heal thyself - don't bother me".
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Hell will freeze over before the rich are eager to help the poor. Either the poor band together and help each other or they unite in revolution.
 

SifuPhil said:
I would prefer revolution, but then the poor do not have the resources - the rich can easily put them down.

That leaves helping each other, and as I previously said that's problematic.
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Exactly

But like many a revolution including the US help from third parties never hurts. And this is where resources should've and should be going. There are still problems to be fixed in the reason which will probably wind up being handled by third parties. Those third parties should be teaching those already living there what to do. Sooner or later even in the west those refugees will have to learn to fend for themselves. So why not do it in their homeland.
 

Debby said:
I watched the arrival on the news this morning and it was just so uplifting. Justin was so sweet with the little girl who got all shy while her daddy held her and listening to that man talk about how they have a 'beautiful new future ahead of them'.....Just brings tears to my eyes when I think of it!

One family (who must have a huge home) are going to be taking in 43 people I think. Mattresses everywhere and they've taken out a second mortgage and maxed out their credit cards and they've raised over $200,000.00 to do this! I think a few are cousins but the rest aren't! Talk about going above and beyond eh?

And in so many ways for these Syrian people, the changes in their lives must feel monumental. I recall someone saying that they'd been in a Lebanese camp for a couple years already. At least our weather has been cooperative. This week it's been snowless in Toronto and about eight degrees warmer than seasonal. Would have been a real rush to arrive to a blizzard don't you think?
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How wonderful!!
 
WhatInThe said:
Exactly

But like many a revolution including the US help from third parties never hurts. And this is where resources should've and should be going. There are still problems to be fixed in the reason which will probably wind up being handled by third parties. Those third parties should be teaching those already living there what to do. Sooner or later even in the west those refugees will have to learn to fend for themselves. So why not do it in their homeland.
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Well said.
 
Shalimar said:
Thanks Jackie. After a ten year mini-fascist drought, I am beginning to recognise my Canada again. Thanks to him, the long overdue investigation into the deaths and disappearance of over 1000 indigenous women is finally underway. This is not an

aboriginal problem. This is a Canadian problem, and a national disgrace. We have a history of racism also. He is committed to forming a new relationship with First People. Our new justice minister is an Aboriginal woman. Half his cabinet are women.
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So good to hear! Hope he can accomplish everything he wants to.
 
WhatInThe said:
Exactly

But like many a revolution including the US help from third parties never hurts. And this is where resources should've and should be going. There are still problems to be fixed in the reason which will probably wind up being handled by third parties. Those third parties should be teaching those already living there what to do. Sooner or later even in the west those refugees will have to learn to fend for themselves. So why not do it in their homeland.
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If you're talking about 'helping the Syria refugees in their homeland', keep in mind that their homeland is torn apart thanks to the official government and terrorists fighting one another. What would you do if you were in exactly that situation? Would you stay and wait for 'someone to help you there' or would you pick up what you could carry, grab your children and make a dash for safety?

Between 1975 and 1980 Canada took in 60,000 Vietnamese boat people who 'made a dash for safety' just like our country is doing now and we made it work and today those people have been long contributing members of our society. And I have no doubt that these people will also become fully self supporting in the same way and our country will be better off for having them. They'll bring their courage and talents and skills and add to us. And maybe some of these kids will grow up and do great things like Steve Jobs did in the USA.
 
The trouble with immigration is that some of them become criminals and some become captains of industry. Most just become citizens like everyone else. In advance you can't tell which path they will follow. It's the same with refugees. If you refuse to allow any of them in because a miniscule number will be antisocial then you miss out on the benefit of the good citizens and the entrepreneurs.

My society has been built on immigration and refugees and overall it has been a resounding success.
 

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