Are you as sick as I am of Star Wars?

AprilT said:
Somehow, you must not be understanding,
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That happens often as I get older.

no one is saying there is harm,
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Ralphy with his OP seemed to be.

quite the opposite, saying I understand, doesn't mean I have want to hear and enjoy the hype, I can be annoyed and still understand and let people have their moment of joy, not trying to stop them, just wish it would stop already so it isn't the main story on every news programming, even my mainstay like nightline which I often tune into for more interesting and often serious news stories, but, has now become more focused on pop-culture each night when it was more often in the past hard hitting news.
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My apologies - I didn't realize that I gave the impression I was trying to stop them - just equating the brouhaha over the movie - Ralphy's OP - with that of professional sprots.

Again, no one is saying people shouldn't have fun with Star Wars, I've said it time and time again there's nothing wrong with having fun seeing these types of movies and being into it..
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And again, that was Ralphy's OP, unless I totally misunderstood it. You KNOW how he likes to bait the bears ...
 

I so remember lining up to see the first Star Wars with my then young son and my then partner, it was fun and exciting for all of us. Same went for the next couple of movies.

Nowadays I couldn't care less, but I'm glad that these movies are still thrilling and exciting people --- May the force be with you, too.
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SifuPhil said:
That happens often as I get older.



Ralphy with his OP seemed to be.



My apologies - I didn't realize that I gave the impression I was trying to stop them - just equating the brouhaha over the movie - Ralphy's OP - with that of professional sprots.



And again, that was Ralphy's OP, unless I totally misunderstood it. You KNOW how he likes to bait the bears ...
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Oh sorry, I tend not to hear all of what Dear Ralphy says, I guess I didn't read all of his post, thought your were responding to my posts.
 

Cookie said:
I so remember lining up to see the first Star Wars with my then young son and my then partner, it was fun and exciting for all of us. Same went for the next couple of movies.

Nowadays I couldn't care less, but I'm glad that these movies are still thrilling and exciting people --- May the force be with you, too.
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Cool pic, there are moments even I get a kick out of some of this silliness. :) case in point, I enjoyed watching the following clip; I thought how good spirited everyone was how they obliged and played along. I do have a sense of humor about it all, just can be annoying some times, like when I get ready for my main news programs and such fair turn out to be top bill.

 
Not so much a Star Wars fan, but definitely a Star Trek fan.

We named our tiny little adult cat, who still weighs only 4.5 pounds at 11 years old, Saavik.

'Saavik' in Vulcan, means "little cat."

Remember Lieutenant Saavik in the Star Trek movies?
 
SifuPhil said:
His footwork is terrible, he has no defense -

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... oh, sorry - doing a technical analysis - old habit. :eek:
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LOL! Well, I would keep the conversation going, but, I picked up a copy of The SpongeBob move titled Sponge out of Water and I'm hoping maybe I'll get around to watching it, though, I might watch The Grand Budapest Hotel first or one of the other six movies I picked up. Toss up I have several books to get to as well. Sigh, so little time before the next Star Wars commercial interruption
 
Talk about advertising - I recall a few weeks ago there were a slew of commercials for some new Peanuts movie, and the whole ad was crafted around Tide detergent ...
 
Just learned a new word. Apparently Star Wars is an example of a shared paracosm. Another example is Tolkien's Middle Earth and more recently Pandora (Avatar).

A paracosm is a detailed imaginary world created inside one's mind. This fantasy world may involve humans, animals, and things that exist in reality; or it may also contain entities that are entirely imaginary, alien, and otherworldly. Commonly having its own geography, history, and languages, the experience of such a paracosm is often developed during childhood and continues over a long period of time: months or even years.
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Interesting word Warri, and seems very apt in the case of Star Wars which has become a cultural phenomenon.
 
As a toddler I lived in a world of adults and I never came across other children to interact with. I created a paracosm inhabited by farm and other imaginary animals.
It faded away when we moved to a new home but I still have the ability to create my own private paracosms when I have the psychological need to do so.
 
Not really Phil. There is a big difference between Robinson Crusoe, Huckleberry Finn and Lorna Doone on the one hand and Gulliver's Travels, Star Trek and Harry Potter on the other.

However, like all things, I suspect that there is a continuum of paracosmicity.

And I just made up a new word. I claim copyright.
 
Warri, I can do that too! I called it, Sanctuary,my secret garden. All the children's stories I created for my kids originated there:ie Sebastien le Spider with his beret and fabulous moustache, and Charlotte D. Elifint, who packed up her trunk and ran off into the jungle looking for friends. I had forgotten. Thank you so much for jogging my memory!
 
Warrigal said:
Not really Phil. There is a big difference between Robinson Crusoe, Huckleberry Finn and Lorna Doone on the one hand and Gulliver's Travels, Star Trek and Harry Potter on the other.
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But isn't the "big" difference merely length? Or are you talking complexity?

However, like all things, I suspect that there is a continuum of paracosmicity.

And I just made up a new word. I claim copyright.
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Nice. :encouragement:
 
SifuPhil said:
I'm a huge Sherlock Holmes fan. As a result I've read the books (over and over at one point), seen the 1939-1946 American movie series with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce, a lot of other movie versions and the latest version, Sherlock, with Benedict Cumberbatch (fantastic series!).

You could call me a fan boy.

Thing is, I take it personally when a version comes out that I don't like, like the "updated" American TV version Elementary where Holmes is a recovering drug addict, and Watson is a female.

No.

It goes against the Code.

I know it's all fantasy, that I was being childish when I was a married man, with kids, and had what amounted to a shrine to Holmes in the basement.

Next to the model trains. And the bar.

Being childlike is different than being childish. I think we all need to recapture the magic of childhood at some point, and if a movie like Star Wars can do it for some people, all the better.
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I love Sherlock, too! But, like you, I think the idea of a female Sherlock is heresy. Sherlock was a male in the books, and movie/TV stuff about him should be at least minimally true to the books.

My favorite portrayer of Sherlock is Jeremy Brett.
 
No. I'm talking whether or not the world depicted is largely a product of the author's imagination or whether it is based on his/her reality. Robinson Crusoe was based on the story of Alexander Selkirk who was really shipwrecked, Huckleberry Finn is set against the realities of living in the South before emancipation of the slaves and Lorna Doone is firmly set in a particular location in England at a particular historical period. The characters and the plot may be products of the author's imagination but not the world that they interact with. None of the characters are fantastic. All are recognisably human.

On the other hand Gulliver's adventures take place in a wildly imaginary world that includes the lands of Lilliput, Brobdingnag, Laputa, Balnibarbi, Luggnagg and Glubbdubdrib. Miniature people, giants and Yahoos that are part horse feature in these lands. It is a prose satire and these worlds are constructed to allow him to satirise powerful people safely. Star Trek and Harry Potter we all know about and each has it's own paracosm governed by unique certain laws and principles and each is inhabited by wonderfully imaginative and unique creatures.
 
Ah, okay - the difference then is setting and level of reality.

Still - isn't that the domain of many fiction / novel writers? It doesn't belong exclusively to sci-fi tales ... not that you said it did. I'm just trying to get a firm handle on exactly what the differences are.
 
Okay..I'm more sick of drug ads on tv than the Star Trek hype. I'm happy for people being happy about whatever rings their chimes. May da force be wit ya... :darth:
 
SifuPhil said:
Ah, okay - the difference then is setting and level of reality.

Still - isn't that the domain of many fiction / novel writers? It doesn't belong exclusively to sci-fi tales ... not that you said it did. I'm just trying to get a firm handle on exactly what the differences are.
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No, sci-fi doesn't have a monopoly in this. Given that I've only just heard the word paracosm for the first time today and my only research is to read a bit of Wiki, I can't speak with any kind of expertise but I would venture to say that a children we did this all the time in our imaginative play/role playing games. Regardless of our real settings, we could transport ourselves into fantastic settings where the normal rules of physics and common sense held no sway.

When I was teaching I would sometimes get students to develop a concept by exploring examples and non examples.

Paracosm might be a literary genre that is essentially different to other genres such as historical adventure (Dumas), detective fiction (Agatha Christie), romance (Pretty woman), fairy stories (Red Riding Hood) etc but we need to remember that there is no perfect system of classification for any set of objects or creatures. Books and literature are no different. Overlap is inevitable.
 
Here's a not-so-great source (Psychology Today), and a bit long, but it was interesting to see them refer to paracosms as "worldplay". That for me clarifies it a bit more. They claim that children that DO do this develop into smarter, more creative adults.

I must have never done it. :(
 

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