National guard troops to the border

Picking a people to inter based upon their nationality is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany.

I don't see how this is any different.
 

Alien
When I hear that word my mind goes to some unhuman being
From another planet
Put ‘illegal’ in front of that and the subconscious considers a direct threat
From outer space


There’s plenty of propaganda in the media today
It’s up to us to determine the ore from the dross

I have a short personal story
It’s not propaganda
It’s not atypical
It’s as real as any true American story could be

I ask all active in this thread to read this story
Those who have me on ignore…please continue to remain ignorant


An illegal alien
From Acapulco, the seamy side
Was wunna those kids treading water for tourists to toss coins from yachts
At sixteen he hooked up with coyotes to get into the US
Learned how to get along here, the hard way…work, all hours
Deported three times while learning
Came back over, three times, walking the desert at night
Slept where no one cares to be
Worked fields like none other
Wanted to be a ‘landcaseper’
Did OK at it, but didn’t put enough food on the table of his ambition
Became a roofer’s helper
A roofer
A framer
A finish carpenter
Took no hand outs
Paid his way
Now has his own business

I just sent a notarized letter to a dept here in Oregon, telling them why he should remain here while he studies to become a citizen

His son, my grandson;
Graduated The Oregon National Guard Youth Challenge Program (OYCP)
With honors
I had the privilege of being his mentor
A few pics;
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I will do all in my power to ensure his opportunity
And those like him, and his dad
They may be in the thousands
All the more reason


This is our nation
Nations will come and go
Historically, those choosing exclusivism go sooner than others
 
I'm not the one that rejoices at news of interment of foreigners. Do we get to wear snazzy brown shirts and call ourselves Sturmabteilung?


Comparing the loss of over 8 million lives to detaining illegals is ludicrous.
 

Picking a people to inter based upon their nationality is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany.

I don't see how this is any different.

Words can not express my outrage. Your posted photo of Auschwitz is beyond belief. This is the 2nd time someone has drawn a comparrision between Nazi Germany and America.
 
Comparing the loss of over 8 million lives to detaining illegals is ludicrous.
Really? My great aunt Rivka would disagree, I lost family in Auschwitz, things started small in Hitler’s Germany. Slippery slope. Let us also not forget the internment of Japanese civilians by both our govts during WW2. Being citizens didn’t help them.
 
Words can not express my outrage. Your posted photo of Auschwitz is beyond belief. This is the 2nd time someone has drawn a comparrision between Nazi Germany and America.

Oh, get off your high horse.

It's okay when you can run down transvestites and women and foreigners and tattoos, but let ONE person call you on your hypocrisy and you have a sh*t-fit.

Kicking them out of the country, then internment, were the first steps in Germany. That's a fact you need to acknowledge.
 
Picking a people to inter based upon their nationality is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany.

I don't see how this is any different.

Nazi's didn't care which country the Jewish people called home, they killed as many as they could. They had no compunction in exterminating almost 90% of their own Jewish citizens. Hardly nationality based.
 
Nazi's didn't care which country the Jewish people called home, they killed as many as they could. They had no compunction in exterminating almost 90% of their own Jewish citizens. Hardly nationality based.

Neither is the listing of Mexico, Central and South American, etc., etc., as has been done in this thread.

Okay, let's use "race" - better?
 
Alien
When I hear that word my mind goes to some unhuman being
From another planet
Put ‘illegal’ in front of that and the subconscious considers a direct threat
From outer space
...
Beautiful post. Resonates. You are truly a great American. Honoured to know you. If I have your permission, I would love to take a copy of this post to work with me. Many of my refugee clients would be heartened by your sentiments.
 
Really? My great aunt Rivka would disagree, I lost family in Auschwitz, things started small in Hitler’s Germany. Slippery slope. Let us also not forget the internment of Japanese civilians by both our govts during WW2. Being citizens didn’t help them.

As much as you would like to compare America to Hitler's Germany, it is not.
 
Neither is the listing of Mexico, Central and South American, etc., etc., as has been done in this thread.

Okay, let's use "race" - better?

Nope, an illegal immigrant can be any nationality. I don't want to see them come to harm, I want them to stay in their respective countries and apply for a green card.
 
Any comparison between America and the Nazi German death camps is pure hysteria. And sinks below the level of reason. I am aware that there are many America haters both here and abroad but that is disgusting.

The ONLY thing America is doing is trying to stop ILLEGAL ALIENS from flooding our country.
 
Any comparison between America and the Nazi German death camps is pure hysteria. And sinks below the level of reason. I am aware that there are many America haters both here and abroad but that is disgusting.

The ONLY thing America is doing is trying to stop ILLEGAL ALIENS from flooding our country.

I suggest you look closer to home for your hysteria. It lacks reason to expect your narrative to be the only narrative. This is a forum where many different voices are heard. Also, it is not a sign of hatred but rather love to want the best for a country, and to speak out against a perceived injustice. That freedom is one of the core values of a democracy. Only by examining the flaws of a society can we hope to improve it. To close one’s eyes to a perceived injustice is to be complicit.
 
You, like Traveler, are missing the point.

It's forced interment. Government approved and implemented.
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When people break the law, they go to jail and perhaps even prison. Government approved and implemented, forced internment. Or don't you think people should go to jail when they brake the law ?

And, the word is internment not interment.
 
I suggest you look closer to home for your hysteria. It lacks reason to expect your narrative to be the only narrative. This is a forum where many different voices are heard. Also, it is not a sign of hatred but rather love to want the best for a country, and to speak out against a perceived injustice. That freedom is one of the core values of a democracy. Only by examining the flaws of a society can we hope to improve it. To close one’s eyes to a perceived injustice is to be complicit.


Counterpoint is one thing, comparing Auschwitz to America is just plain hysteria. I believe in the law. If you don't, then I must just shake my head in disbelief and wonder what you are thinking.
 
Yep, they all hate the US until they get in trouble.


Agreed. We have plenty of America haters right here in our own country and they don't care one bit about what is best for this country. What is best ? Obeying the law is best!

Hey, JB, have you ever wondered why some of these posters openly support illegal activity ?
 
Really? My great aunt Rivka would disagree, I lost family in Auschwitz, things started small in Hitler’s Germany. Slippery slope. Let us also not forget the internment of Japanese civilians by both our govts during WW2. Being citizens didn’t help them.

And I'll add some info that admittedly I didn't even know about until quite recently-
(quote):

In 1831, a petition to the state legislature was introduced by a delegation from Northampton County, Virginia, calling for immediate plans to send all free Americans of color to Liberia, Africa. The mixed families they wanted to deport had lived in America for two centuries at the time...

Parallel to Nazi Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, powerful forces were moving steadily to send not only blacks, but whites and American Indians with "one drop" of African blood to Africa.

There's also some interesting information on how 'American eugenical segregationalists' directly corresponded with and influenced the Nazis.

(book: CHILDREN OF PERDITION by Tim Hashaw.)
 
And I'll add some info that admittedly I didn't even know about until quite recently-
(quote):

In 1831, a petition to the state legislature was introduced by a delegation from Northampton County, Virginia, calling for immediate plans to send all free Americans of color to Liberia, Africa. The mixed families they wanted to deport had lived in America for two centuries at the time...

Parallel to Nazi Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, powerful forces were moving steadily to send not only blacks, but whites and American Indians with "one drop" of African blood to Africa.

There's also some interesting information on how 'American eugenical segregationalists' directly corresponded with and influenced the Nazis.

(book: CHILDREN OF PERDITION by Tim Hashaw.)
Wow!
 


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