Immigrant caravan

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Lara said:
I think we can all agree that immigrants are welcome in our country if they come with a clean history, come responsibly, and with a heart to become fully American, learning the language, flying only the American flag, etc.

The only way we can make sure of that is to take our time vetting each one. Not blindly herding them in masses and then waiting until a crime is has already been committed before jailing them or sending them back.
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Two BIG "thumbs up" for you!!
 

I ask everyone to think about invited guests into your home. How would you feel if those guests went to your fridge and helped themselves without asking permission ? I strongly suspect that they would not be invited into your home anytime soon.

Legal immigrants are guests. Illegal aliens are invaders of your home.
 

Sunny said:
Hatred and fear of immigrants is a long-standing disease IN THIS COUNTRY.
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I don't see any "Hatred" in this thread. In the country as a whole? Sure, there will always be haters because some people are just mean...IN EVERY COUNTRY.

But, yes, many Americans have "Fear". Fearful of the mass immigration happening where ILLEGAL immigrants are being told to "seek asylum" (with more taxpayer's benefits than our legal citizens get and using more resources than we have) and without time to be properly and throughly checked for criminal history at the border before entry.

And a fear of them not fully becoming an American with a heart for our country and a will to be a productive citizen. We just need to be careful and take our time at the borders.
 
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WhatInThe said:
Too many issues here but I recently heard someone mention during a debate on this that people do things like lock doors and put passwords on computers for a reason. Wouldn't a country enforcing immigration law/procedure and putting barriers on it's borders be doing the same thing?
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Yes, and they should....would you let undesirables into your home ? Would you allow just anyone to walk in ? Without even asking who & what they are? What their intentions are ? Do they intend to contribute ? Or just take? Can they prove their ability to contribute ?
 
rgp said:
Yes, and they should....would you let undesirables into your home ? Would you allow just anyone to walk in ? Without even asking who & what they are? What their intentions are ? Do they intend to contribute ? Or just take? Can they prove their ability to contribute ?
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An individual has personal ownership of his home- no one has personal ownership of this country.
 
Lara said:
I think we can all agree that immigrants are welcome in our country if they come with a clean history, come responsibly, and with a heart to become fully American, learning the language, flying only the American flag, etc.

The only way we can make sure of that is to take our time vetting each one. Not blindly herding them in masses and then waiting until a crime is has already been committed before jailing them or sending them back.
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Absolutely !...
 
JaniceM said:
An individual has personal ownership of his home- no one has personal ownership of this country.
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Exactly right...and we should collectively lock the door. We collectively elected officials to uphold our laws & we should demand that they do.

If an immigrant desires to enter?..we have a system in place to do exactly that, follow the system. Nothing more...nothing less.
 
Speaking of this caravan...It showed them on the news arriving at the border in those large red tourist type buses . Who paid for those buses ? the fuel ? Could it be that there is an organization a-foot that just wants to get them through Mexico? Or perhaps one that wants to bring them here ? for a purpose ?. An organization with an agenda perhaps ?
 
JaniceM said:
An individual has personal ownership of his home- no one has personal ownership of this country.
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That was my understanding also. I didn’t know immigrants were walking into peoples homes and stealing food.

Shalimar said:
I have a neighbour who has dual citizenship, she flies both the American and Canadian flags. No one takes exception to that.
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My parents have dual citizenship and except for the past year , they have travelled down south for the past 30 plus years for 6 months out of the year. They don’t however raid anyone else’s fridge as far as I know.
 
Shalimar said:
I have a neighbour who has dual citizenship, she flies both the American and Canadian flags. No one takes exception to that.
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There are no laws against it but "the US does not recognize dual citizenship".

Theodore Roosevelt takes exception to dual citizenship:

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
 
rgp said:
Speaking of this caravan...It showed them on the news arriving at the border in those large red tourist type buses . Who paid for those buses ? the fuel ? Could it be that there is an organization a-foot that just wants to get them through Mexico? Or perhaps one that wants to bring them here ? for a purpose ?. An organization with an agenda perhaps ?
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Oh, there is an agenda. No doubt about that. There are individuals, and groups of people, who wish to cause harm to the United States. Start by looking at those who set up sanctuary cities and then ask yourselves , why ?

Hint: it has absolutely nothing to do with concern for the immigrants.
 
Lara said:
There are no laws against it but "the US does not recognize dual citizenship".

Theodore Roosevelt takes exception to dual citizenship:

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
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Amen to that.

I hope EVERYONE has read the link in post #2. It will give you a frightening insight.
 
Using the inscription at the base of the statue of liberty to show that immigratns are welcome works if you limit your understanding.




The inscription at the base of the Statue of Liberty reads: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore


The U.S. government began a process of welcoming. Illegals flooding into America ARE NOT following that process.


In honor of the statute's intent to welcome immigrants, the U.S. government opened an immigration office on nearby Ellis Island in 1892. Between 1892 and 1954, Lady Liberty welcomed millions of immigrants who arrived at Ellis Island before continuing their journey into the United States.


https://www.reference.com/art-literature/written-bottom-statue-liberty-289345c7c12bcc74#
 
Lara said:
There are no laws against it but "the US does not recognize dual citizenship".

Theodore Roosevelt takes exception to dual citizenship:

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
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Each country is entitled to view dual citizenship as it wishes. Here, in the Land Of The Maple Leaf, we embrace a different perspective. It works for us. As one third of us are French Canadian, we have two official languages. Les Québécois first settled here in the sixteenth century. In many schools, First Nation languages are also available as electives.
 
Ok I read the link in post #2.

How is anyone going to differentiate between those who are considered ‘bad’ folks with ill intentions and those others who don’t? Is it fair to paint them ALL with the same brush strokes?
 
Keesha said:
How is anyone going to differentiate between those who are considered ‘bad’ folks with ill intentions and those others who don’t? Is it fair to paint them ALL with the same brush strokes?
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Criminal background checks are done on all...or at least should be done.
 
Shalimar said:
Each country is entitled to view dual citizenship as it wishes. Here, in the Land Of The Maple Leaf, we embrace a different perspective. It works for us.
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Canada does not face anything even close to the problems America faces. Sorry, but any comparison does not work.
 
Knight said:
Using the inscription at the base of the statue of liberty to show that immigratns are welcome works if you limit your understanding.




The inscription at the base of the Statue of Liberty reads: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore


The U.S. government began a process of welcoming. Illegals flooding into America ARE NOT following that process.


In honor of the statute's intent to welcome immigrants, the U.S. government opened an immigration office on nearby Ellis Island in 1892. Between 1892 and 1954, Lady Liberty welcomed millions of immigrants who arrived at Ellis Island before continuing their journey into the United States.


https://www.reference.com/art-literature/written-bottom-statue-liberty-289345c7c12bcc74#
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Actually, that's not the reason Ellis Island was opened.
Read up on Castle Garden.
 
Shalimar said:
Each country is entitled to view dual citizenship as it wishes. Here, in the Land Of The Maple Leaf, we embrace a different perspective. It works for us. As one third of us are French Canadian, we have two official languages. Les Québécois first settled here in the sixteenth century. In many schools, First Nation languages are also available as electives.
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Well then....you run your railroad & we'll run ours.
 

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