Where the Heck is It ???

Davey Jones

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MALAYSIA AIRLINES loses contact with flight carrying 239 en route to Beijing...
Plane missing two hours into flight...

That plane is a pretty big thing to hide. Someone on that flight must have a cell phone. How does a Malaysian plane disappear over Viet-Nam without a trace? .. .. Full of passengers.
 

From what I have read, the speculation is widely varied as to what happened. Several reports said that the plane had landed at another airport, and then were claimed to be false.
Some think that it might have been hit my one of the missiles that NK has been testing, or that there was a bomb on the plane, so that it just exploded.
One of the odd bits of information is that two of the people that were supposed to be on the plane, were not on board, and both said that their ID had been stolen a year or so ago in Thailand. So , apparently, there were at least two people on the aircraft with fake passports.
Another question comes to mind...... wonder if there were any bankers on board ??
 

Heard it on the news last night. Terrible, terrible tragedy. Haven't checked news this morning. Maybe I just don't want to know. Last was the commies . . . er, Vietnamese picked up a signal from its beacon and were sending planes to search the area in the South China Sea. Could have been anything that brought it down. Doesn't really matter. It's just a terrible loss of life.
 
I just read the latest update on the missing plane, and they are really starting to think that the two guys who boarded with stolen passports might have put a bomb on the plane; so it is looking more like an attack on somone or some country, than just a mechanical failure.
Apparently, they still have not found any traces at all of the plane, so they are still not sure where it went down; but they said they were calling off the search for the night, and will have planes out again in the morning.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/08/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140308
 
Davey Jones said:
MALAYSIA AIRLINES loses contact with flight carrying 239 en route to Beijing...
Plane missing two hours into flight...

That plane is a pretty big thing to hide. Someone on that flight must have a cell phone. How does a Malaysian plane disappear over Viet-Nam without a trace? .. .. Full of passengers.
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Thanks for putting this up Davey. That's sure enough to make you sit up and pay attention to what's going on out there.
 
Happyflowerlady said:
I just read the latest update on the missing plane, and they are really starting to think that the two guys who boarded with stolen passports might have put a bomb on the plane; so it is looking more like an attack on somone or some country, than just a mechanical failure.
Apparently, they still have not found any traces at all of the plane, so they are still not sure where it went down; but they said they were calling off the search for the night, and will have planes out again in the morning.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/08/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140308
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Thanks HFL.
 
oh, always hoping maybe it didn't go down but it isn't looking that way is it. Thanks for the updates CeeCee. I want to get some cable again at some point. I liked watching news especially, and playin on the puter at the same time.
 
Latest I gathered from the evening news is pretty much what's been said. Disappeared after leaving Kuala Lumpur before reaching the southern tip of 'Nam. Mystery and suspicion surrounds the two travelers on stolen passports. Oil slick found. Again, no matter how and why, just a terrible tragedy.
 
If a terrorist attack I reckon we would have heard from them by now.
Also, who would use a flight from KL to Bejing to make a point?
I can't think of any group that would do that without trumpeting their success.

It's all a big mystery thus far.
 
I can't figure out why there has been no mention of these beacons. They've been used to locate black boxes for many years, and work automatically.

All commercial air transport (CAT) aircraft are fitted with underwater locator beacons to assist in the relocation of black box flight data recorders (FDRs) and cockpit voice recorders (CVRs). These beacons are free-running pingers transmitting at an acoustic frequency of 37.5kHz with a claimed battery life of at least 30 days. The maximum detection range is determined primarily by the frequency and the transmission power, with an initial source level of 160.5dB re 1µPa @ 1m, which reduces to 157.0dB re 1µPa @ 1m, after 30 days. The quoted maximum detection range is 2-3km, although this is influenced by environmental conditions. The equipment used to search for the beacons can be deployed from a surface vessel, on a remotely operated vehicle (ROV), autonomous underwater vehicle (AUV) or operated by a diver. The detection equipment acts only as a direction finder, however, with no indication being given of the range to the pinger (Figure 1).
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Edit to add...
After checking further... the beacon, under best conditions can send a signal over 100 miles, but if the plane ended up in a deep underwater trench, or the black box was covered or blocked by major damage, the signal would not extend that far.
 
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From the latest news (Yahoo! news, admittedly not necessarily the most reliable), it looks like terrorism is a likely answer. Several of the passengers apparently had phony passports.
 
So no bodies, all are trapped onboard I'm sure, seems there would be some sort of wreckage? Maybe I missed that in the posts or the news I've been catching.
 
Oh I hadn't seen that news, thank you jm. I guess I am relying on others to get my news. I've noticed while watching news online that they go over the same thing over and over, just like they do on tv. So if I just watch the news website, trying to get updates, I can't be on here.
 
They reported that 20 of the passengers are from a Texas-based company that makes semi-conductors, which are used in vehicles, but also have other uses. It sounds like some sort of a computer chip, maybe.
Since we are sending the FBI over to investigate, as well as (I think) both a ship and a plane, it would possibily seem like there is more happening then they are releasing in the news.
I also read that they think the plane might have actually turned around before it disappeared. That doesn't make much sense, because why would they turn around unless something was going wrong; and if that were the case, then why was there no radio contact. But they are also searching an area west of Maylasia, so they must have a good reason to think it went off course.
They are reporting that there might have been more than 2 people with stolen passports in some of the news online ; however, they also said that this might have nothing to do with the disappearance, since people trying to illegally immigrate somewhere do this frequently.

It sure seem like with all the effort being put into finding the plane that SOMETHING should show up before too long.


http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140308-902237.html
 
Happyflowerlady said:
They reported that 20 of the passengers are from a Texas-based company that makes semi-conductors, which are used in vehicles, but also have other uses. It sounds like some sort of a computer chip, maybe.
Since we are sending the FBI over to investigate, as well as (I think) both a ship and a plane, it would possibily seem like there is more happening then they are releasing in the news.
I also read that they think the plane might have actually turned around before it disappeared. That doesn't make much sense, because why would they turn around unless something was going wrong; and if that were the case, then why was there no radio contact. But they are also searching an area west of Maylasia, so they must have a good reason to think it went off course.
They are reporting that there might have been more than 2 people with stolen passports in some of the news online ; however, they also said that this might have nothing to do with the disappearance, since people trying to illegally immigrate somewhere do this frequently.

It sure seem like with all the effort being put into finding the plane that SOMETHING should show up before too long.


http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140308-902237.html
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Thank you for the update HFL!! I really appreciate it.
 
They are now saying they have spotted debris that looks like a plane door and are on the way to pick it up, they mentioned that if the beacon has a lot of debris on top of it then it will be hard for them to detect it.
 
If a plane breaks up in the air, the debris field will be scattered. It it was intact upon impact, less so. Adding that it went into the drink . . . more difficult to investigate.
 
Todays news...STILL nothing found,Im beginning to think it landed at Long Island airport,N.Y. and nobody noticed it.
 
This story gets stranger and stranger. It is possible, I suppose, that the plane didn't crash but landed somewhere.
 
Last I heard was that they have found an airplane door that could be from the one that supposedly crashed.
 

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