Gunmen open fire at Bondi Beach in Sydney.

I'm cutting Frydenberg some slack here. For him this is a personal issue, and he let go at Sarah Ferguson on the ABC with a lot of passion. His anger was for his children who go nowhere without being in the presence of armed guards.

I am reluctant to take anything SKY News commentators say but in this case I stayed listening and began to see what Frydenberg wanted to make clear about his reality.

ABC interview Jos Frydenberg - Search Videos

This FB reel was posted by a muslim member of NSW state parliament. His name is Jihad Dib and he is a warm, gentle man for whom I have great respect.

At Bondi this morning I joined more than 1000 lifeguards and the wider community for silent reflection and a moment of healing. This week has been incredibly hard but we have seen the best of humanity in times of darkness. Let’s be inspired by the symbolism of standing shoulder to shoulder and continue to show acts of kindness and compassion as we care for each other in the days, weeks and months ahead. | Jihad Dib MP

The guns the shooter used were legal, like most Australians I thought they had been banned years ago

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

spookycat2 said:

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

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More guns just lead to more deaths. The corollary is less guns deliver less mass deaths by bullets.

spookycat2 said:

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

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The problem with that theory was that if it was true there would be no gun violence in the US but there is currently a thread about a shooting at Brown University and reports of mass shootings from the USA are far too common.


The vertical line indicates when serious gun control took place after the Port Arthur killings. The problem is that virtually nothing has been done since and gun manufacturers have found ways round the legislation but new legislation including a limit on the number of guns a person can hold will hopefully revise that.

BTW I gave up my gun licence in 1996

spookycat2 said:

This may not be a popular opinion, but I believe where more citizens are armed and trained, it wouldn't take many episodes like that to put an end to gun violence.

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Your opinion is valid, it's equally as valid as a diametrically opposed opinion.
That's the thing with opinions, they're personal and no one can tell that they're wrong because they are your personal beliefs.

There are two things for which I really admire and envy the U.S. It's your gun laws and your freedom of speech.