10 Year Old Little Killer Murders His Mother For Not Buying Him A Headset

Pookie said:
Bull. The best parents will get help for their kids, recognize issues, stop coddling them, and get them help so somehow saving us money by not incarcerating them. Easy enough.
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Easy enough? My goodness, wouldn’t it be wonderful if life was that cut and dried. Agreed that the boy should not have had access to a gun. But “straighten and up and fly right” is ineffective in

dealing with mental illness, particularly in children. There is nothing easy about dealing with a severely mentally ill child. Getting appropriate help for them is not easy either. All therapists are not created equal. Frankly, I

don’t understand your hostility toward other opinions regarding how to deal with such a tragic situation. Have a nice evening.
 

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Shalimar said:
Easy enough? My goodness, wouldn’t it be wonderful if life was that cut and dried. Agreed that the boy should not have had access to a gun. But “straighten and up and fly right” is ineffective in

dealing with mental illness, particularly in children. There is nothing easy about dealing with a severely mentally ill child. Getting appropriate help for them is not easy either. Frankly, I

don’t understand your hostility toward other opinions regarding how to deal with such a situation. By the way, courtesy is always appreciated. Have a nice evening.
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No hostility. Just common sense as a parent. Never said straighten up and fly right, either. That junk never works.

You have a good evening/night also!
 
Shalimar said:
If he is mentally ill he is not a monster. By all means, protect society, but he is a broken child, human. There is also a very limited correlation between mental illness and evil. They are far from synonymous.
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Oh they can help him and try to fix him all they want. Just don't do it with the intent of releasing him if they think he is fixed. There's no way to really know because they know how to say things that are expected of them without really feeling it. Cry fake tears and say what the therapist wants to hear and say whatever they need to say to be released. They are good at that. But they are not really fixed.
caroln said:
Some murderers are not able to be rehabilitated no matter what age they are. They understand what they did is against the law, they just don't care. They have no empathy whatsoever.

James Fallon, PhD, has studied the brains of many serial killers and believes the brains of some fetuses were bathed in way too much serotonin in utero, making them numb to serotonin effects after birth. This makes them unable to control anger or stress. This, along with other factors like being exposed to a violent environment, is a deadly combination that practically guarantees someone will become a serial killer.

This 10 year old that killed his mother sounds like a sociopath who could be a poster child for Dr. Fallon's theories.
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Wow that video is very interesting, but does make me feel a little uneasy about it. I don't like the idea of treating people like serial killers when they haven't done anything. Having those scans hanging over their head can be a trauma in and of itself that triggers the problem and it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.
caroln said:
Can you imagine a future where all babies born have to go through a brain scan before being released from the hospital? :eek: Sounds like the plot of a new movie.
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Yeah, I don't like that idea. It will mess with people's head if you tell them they have the brain of a serial killer. :oops: If people know that they will see and treat the person differently without meaning to, which can create trauma that triggers it where it would have never happened otherwise.
Like I'm an introvert, and I can't stand it when they say a killer was quiet and kept to their self as if that's a sign of a killer. Most introverts just enjoy their own company and don't want people looking at them sideways and reading too much into things they do. You buy some rope to use as a clothes line and you happen to be an introvert and they are ready to call the police! :ROFLMAO:
No, just deal with them according to what they do, not according to some brain scan or some made up warning signs of killers. People are more complicated than that.
 

Victoria said:
Oh they can help him and try to fix him all they want. Just don't do it with the intent of releasing him if they think he is fixed. There's no way to really know because they know how to say things that are expected of them without really feeling it. Cry fake tears and say what the therapist wants to hear and say whatever they need to say to be released. They are good at that. But they are not really fixed.

Wow that video is very interesting, but does make me feel a little uneasy about it. I don't like the idea of treating people like serial killers when they haven't done anything. Having those scans hanging over their head can be a trauma in and of itself that triggers the problem and it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.

Yeah, I don't like that idea. It will mess with people's head if you tell them they have the brain of a serial killer. :oops: If people know that they will see and treat the person differently without meaning to, which can create trauma that triggers it where it would have never happened otherwise.
Like I'm an introvert, and I can't stand it when they say a killer was quiet and kept to their self as if that's a sign of a killer. Most introverts just enjoy their own company and don't want people looking at them sideways and reading too much into things they do. You buy some rope to use as a clothes line and you happen to be an introvert and they are ready to call the police! :ROFLMAO:
No, just deal with them according to what they do, not according to some brain scan or some made up warning signs of killers. People are more complicated than that.
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I wasn't being serious about scanning babies brains! ;) It was just a "what if" type thought about the future. But you're right in saying it would mess with people's heads.
 
Shalimar said:
Current thinking among most mental health professionals is that psychopaths are born that way, whereas sociopaths are primarily a result of their environment.
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I can't understand what the difference is. Crazy is crazy and needs to be locked up. When mentally ill people are let loose and kill or harm other people, they create other broken, traumatized people who go on to affect others around them with their trauma/PTSD causing those people trauma. It's an endless cycle of just spreading trauma. That's why so many people are dysfunctional. Too many broken people allowed to live among regular people spreading their brokenness.
 
Human reproduction is not foolproof. Our kids can have severe mental issues. And it doesn't matter if the child gets hugs and kisses- those issues are real, and will have drastic results. Poor parenting may make things worse, but it is the child's brain that's the issue. I don't know him, but I'll bet there are missing neighborhood pets, and a rash of small fires. I think the fact that all the surveillance cameras malfunctioned two days before the murder is not a coincidence. It's difficult to see a small boy as a psychopath, but he is what he is.
 
Alligatorob said:
Interesting, does that mean sociopaths are treatable, but psychopaths not?

I honestly did not know the difference, so I looked it up. Doesn't seem to be a lot:

A key difference between a psychopath and a sociopath is whether he has a conscience, the little voice inside that lets us know when we’re doing something wrong...

A psychopath doesn’t have a conscience. If he lies to you so he can steal your money, he won’t feel any moral qualms, though he may pretend to. He may observe others and then act the way they do so he’s not “found out,”...

A sociopath typically has a conscience, but it’s weak. They may know that taking your money is wrong, and they might feel some guilt or remorse, but that won’t stop their behavior.

Sociopath v. Psychopath: What’s the Difference?​

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/sociopath-psychopath-difference
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Another fun fact is that sociopaths can(and do) make successful business and political leaders. Psychopaths slip into the business and political ranks as well... :rolleyes:
 
Victoria said:
I can't understand what the difference is. Crazy is crazy and needs to be locked up. When mentally ill people are let loose and kill or harm other people, they create other broken, traumatized people who go on to affect others around them with their trauma/PTSD causing those people trauma. It's an endless cycle of just spreading trauma. That's why so many people are dysfunctional. Too many broken people allowed to live among regular people spreading their brokenness.
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Hmmm. I am a broken person. I have CPTSD. Yet, I am a therapist specialising in trauma.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Human reproduction is not foolproof. Our kids can have severe mental issues. And it doesn't matter if the child gets hugs and kisses- those issues are real, and will have drastic results. Poor parenting may make things worse, but it is the child's brain that's the issue. I don't know him, but I'll bet there are missing neighborhood pets, and a rash of small fires. I think the fact that all the surveillance cameras malfunctioned two days before the murder is not a coincidence. It's difficult to see a small boy as a psychopath, but he is what he is.
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Or, equally possible, suffering from childhood schizophrenia et al. Frankly, at this point, we just don’t know. Psychopaths are not known for confessing to anything. They lie.
 
This all comes down to one big question: How did this child get hold of a gun?

He is obviously very disturbed, whatever label people want to attach to him. He might have been able to be helped by a team of good professionals. Now, not so likely. And his mother is dead. So I repeat: how (and why) should a child that age be able to get his hands on a gun? (Let alone a kid who is known to be disturbed?)
 
Sunny said:
This all comes down to one big question: How did this child get hold of a gun?

He is obviously very disturbed, whatever label people want to attach to him. He might have been able to be helped by a team of good professionals. Now, not so likely. And his mother is dead. So I repeat: how (and why) should a child that age be able to get his hands on a gun? (Let alone a kid who is known to be disturbed?)
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It was his mother's gun. That's all the info the police have released at this point.
 
Sunny said:
This all comes down to one big question: How did this child get hold of a gun?

He is obviously very disturbed, whatever label people want to attach to him. He might have been able to be helped by a team of good professionals. Now, not so likely. And his mother is dead. So I repeat: how (and why) should a child that age be able to get his hands on a gun? (Let alone a kid who is known to be disturbed?)
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It was his mother's gun, he knew where she kept the key and went and got it and unlocked the box and got the gun.
 
Sunny said:
This all comes down to one big question: How did this child get hold of a gun?

He is obviously very disturbed, whatever label people want to attach to him. He might have been able to be helped by a team of good professionals. Now, not so likely. And his mother is dead. So I repeat: how (and why) should a child that age be able to get his hands on a gun? (Let alone a kid who is known to be disturbed?)
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Believe it or not, some brain-dead parents see absolutely NOTHING wrong with their child having access to guns.
On a gun forum I used to chat on, a father will ask for a gun recommendation for their AUTISTIC son or daughter. Yes, that was right after Adam Lanza's idiot mother bought him guns & ammunition & he killed 27. When I suggested a different hobby, I got attacked by other posters. There is a need for some parents who have a mentally-ill child to show that their kids are "normal" just like other kids & they're willing to risk lives to prove that their kid is just a good as other kids. Unbelievable!

Then, there is another category of brain-dead parent I've dealt with. I'll suggest they store their guns where their kids can't have access to them & I get this response: "Hey, MY kid is smarter than YOUR kid. MY kid always obeys me. MY kid won't touch my gun without my permission. I take MY kid hunting with me. I taught MY kid gun safety....MY kid is more mature than YOUR kid. Maybe YOU have to lock up YOUR gun 'cuz YOUR kid isn't as smart as mine."
I went through this with my sister; I'd tell her to put her gun in a lockbox. She'd respond by telling me how mature her 11 year old son was. I said, "What about your son's friends who visit? She responded, "My son doesn't have stupid friends."
But when her son's friend came over & found the gun, he pointed it at him as a joke. Luckily, he didn't pull the trigger, or my sister would have lost her son. What's so difficult about acknowledging that NO parent can vouch for the maturity of every one of their kids' friends who visit??

Another example: "I hid my gun so well, my kid will never find it." Yeah....in my house, when I was a kid & my parents went to work, I had ALL DAY to search the house & my brother & sister & I ALWAYS found whatever we were told not to touch - matches AND guns.
To a child, "Don't Touch" makes it much-more exciting.
 

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