2020 Football (American, that is)

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
Cowboys: how long do you give Mike McCarthy before he gets fed up with Jerry's interference? I'm betting a couple of years more, at most.
Might be quicker than we thought.
Defensive coach and his assistant were fired today. McCarthy brought the Defensive Coach Nolan to Dallas, and they have a long
history.
So, who fired the coaches, McCarthy of someone higher up :unsure: as if we had to ask.

Will watch Colts vs and Bills tomorrow, not that familiar with colts;
then last quarter of Settle and LA

Sunday, Ravens and Titans
 

Lethe200

Senior Member
What We Learned From the NFL’s Wild-Card Weekend Pt 1 of 2
Lamar Jackson finally won a playoff game, the Browns demolished the Steelers and Nickelodeon’s broadcast of a game for children offered a welcome distraction.
NY Times By Benjamin Hoffman Jan. 10, 2021 (edited by lethe200)

Here’s what we learned:

Ravens 20, Titans 13
It is time for a new Lamar Jackson narrative. It was hard to tell if the Baltimore Ravens were a top contender or a beneficiary of one of the NFL’s weakest schedules in the final five weeks of the regular season. And with consecutive seasons that each ended in a disappointing playoff loss, there were those who questioned whether Jackson’s run-heavy style could translate to postseason success. After watching Baltimore race for 236 yds on the ground in a win on the road against the Tennessee Titans on Sunday, those narratives can be retired. Baltimore won’t surprise anyone, but knowing what’s coming is a lot different from knowing how to stop it.

With his first playoff win and his team’s defense playing well, Jackson should finally be able to relax. That should terrify opponents, because Jackson, who rushed for 136 yds on Sunday and 143 in last year’s playoff loss to Tennessee, already owns two of the top three playoff rushing performances by a QB in NFL history, according to Pro Football Reference.

Browns 50, Steelers 10
The Browns know how to put on a show. In the team’s first playoff game in 18 years, Cleveland did not disappoint. The Browns ran up a shocking 28-0 lead over the Pittsburgh Steelers in Sunday’s first quarter before letting things get just close enough in the second half to make the fan base nervous. Cleveland ended up winning, 48-37, scoring more points in a playoff game than the team had since beating the Detroit Lions, 56-10, in the 1954 NFL championship game.

The fans who got nervous in the second half might want to keep breathing into paper bags: the Browns are on the road against Patrick Mahomes and the KC Chiefs in the divisional round.

Saints 21, Bears 9
Nickelodeon should broadcast a game every week. Keeping things interesting when a heavily favored team wins easily can be hard, but a broadcast on Nick aimed at children managed to do just that. The announcers explained the game at a base level, but had entertaining insights along the way, as when the former NFL player Nate Burleson described being tackled as feeling like “falling down wooden stairs.” As for the actual game, the New Orleans Saints barely broke a sweat while beating the Chicago Bears, 21-9. The only real misstep of the broadcast was a fan vote leading to Mitchell Trubisky, the losing QB, being named the game’s most valuable player. Over all, the innovations led to the least competitive game of the weekend being must-see TV.

Buccaneers 31, Footballers 23
Tom Brady is leaving no stone unturned. Brady, the Buccaneers QB (that still sounds weird), already had plenty of NFL records. But he broke one on Saturday that had lasted for 50 years, passing George Blanda to become the oldest player to throw a TD pass in a playoff game. Brady, at 43 years 159 days, threw two TD passes in TBay’s 31-23 win on Saturday over the Washington Football Team, and will most likely push the record further next weekend in the divisional round. As Drew Brees is the only other active QB in his 40s, and is potentially retiring after this season, Brady’s record - should he ever choose to stop playing - could be safe for quite some time.

Brady’s triumph led to jokes on social media after an NBC graphic showed how much younger Brady looks than grizzled old Blanda did in 1971. But Blanda’s fans still have some bragging rights: A versatile player for the Oakland Raiders, he not only had two TD passes in that AFC championship game against the Baltimore Colts, but he also kicked the extra point after both TDs and connected on a 48-yard field goal.

Rams 30, Seahawks 20
These are not the 2018 Los Angeles Rams. In the 2018 season, Coach Sean McVay used a groundbreaking offense - and a fairly mediocre defense - to lead the Rams to the Super Bowl. The script has officially been flipped, with Los Angeles going as far as its defense can take it. Facing the Seattle Seahawks, who finished eighth in the NFL in scoring, Aaron Donald and the Rams’ front seven put a ton of pressure on Russell Wilson, sacking him five times in the Rams’ 30-20 victory on Saturday. The Rams also showed an aggressive streak when cornerback Darious Williams burst through a pair of Seattle players at the line of scrimmage to intercept a pass by Wilson, returning it 42 yds for a TD.

Strong performances from the team’s defense and its rookie RB Cam Akers (28 carries for 131 yds and a TD) were particularly important since QB Jared Goff appeared limited after recent surgery on the thumb of his throwing hand. Backup QB John Wolford was taken to the hospital after a thump to the head, and is day to day. Aaron Donald suffered torn rib cartilage, which is not a good thing when he’ll be trying to keep Aaron Rodgers of the Packers from throwing TD passes next Saturday.

Bills 27, Colts 24
A 27-24 victory over the Indianapolis Colts on Saturday gave Buffalo its first playoff win since 1995. The game managed to show off the Bills’ strengths and weaknesses. QB Josh Allen (324 yds passing, 54 yds rushing, three total TDs) and WR Stefon Diggs (128 yds receiving and a TD) were dominant, and safety Micah Hyde saved the day with a late pass deflection, but alarm bells should be ringing that Buffalo’s defense allowed 472 yds of total offense and nearly gave up what had been a 24-10 lead in the fourth quarter. The Bills did not have a sack or a turnover in the game, and got almost no contribution from the team’s RBs. As good as Allen and Diggs are, the rest of the team will need to step up for this run to continue.
 

Lethe200

Senior Member
What We Learned From the NFL’s Wild-Card Weekend Pt 2 of 2
NY Times By Benjamin Hoffman Jan. 10, 2021 (edited by lethe200)

Additional thoughts:

The expanded playoffs are a major time investment.
As some feared, expanding the playoff field to 14 teams, from 12, led to an 8-8 squad - the Chicago Bears - qualifying for postseason play. In addition, the NFC East was won by the 7-9 Washington Football Team, leaving only five of the NFC’s entrants with winning records. But this year’s AFC provided a good argument for the format, because it allowed the formidable 11-5 Indianapolis Colts to qualify. The conference even had a team with a winning record - the 10-6 Miami Dolphins - that did not make the playoffs.

The ultimate goal of the Super Wild Card Weekend, however, was money. Games were broadcast across multiple networks and streaming platforms for more than 10 hours on both days. With the smaller in-person crowds, you could almost hear the league’s cash registers welcoming that boost in advertising revenue.

This weekend, we said goodbye to the following teams:

The Seattle Seahawks: 12-4 | NFC West champions

In the first half of the season, the Seahawks appeared to have a Super Bowl-quality offense and a high-school-level defense. Seattle ironed out many of its defensive woes, but Russell Wilson and the team’s offense were overwhelmed on Saturday - that happens a lot against the Los Angeles Rams’ underrated defense.

Where does that leave the Seahawks? If the Seattle Seahawks want to succeed in the playoffs, the team will need to give QB Russell Wilson more time to throw. They need to find upgrades on the offensive line to protect Wilson. Fan criticisms of Pete Carroll’s reluctance to let Russell Wilson loose seem justified. Early season games in which Seattle was more aggressive with their passing game, contrasted sharply with the more run-oriented playcalling in the last third of the season which produced far fewer points and more losses. Trying to ease pressure on Wilson with the running game didn’t work with the great Aaron Donald tearing up Seattle’s OL.

The Pittsburgh Steelers: 12-4 | AFC North champions
The dissection of the 2020 Steelers will take weeks rather than days, but the team being robbed of a true bye week thanks to Tennessee’s coronavirus outbreak early in the season should be on the list somewhere. Pittsburgh began the season 11-0, but injuries added up - particularly on defense - and the Steelers wore down, resulting in a 1-4 finish to the season and a humbling first-round exit.

No other playoff team this season has as big a conundrum going forward as the Steelers in terms of what the team will do with QB Ben Roethlisberger. The two-time Super Bowl winner threw for 501 yds in Sunday’s loss, but he also threw four costly interceptions. He turns 39 in March and while much of the team appears to be built for the future, Roethlisberger is increasingly looking like something from the team’s past.

The Tennessee Titans: 11-5 | AFC South champions
Derrick Henry had an incredible season, rushing for 2,027 yds and becoming the first player to repeat as the NFL’s rushing champion in more than a decade. A blend of his running and Ryan Tannehill’s passing led the Titans to the fourth-most points in the NFL While many will focus on Henry’s disappointing effort in Sunday’s loss, Tennessee’s biggest issue this season was its defense. The Titans need to better support Henry and Tannehill so that it’s not necessary that they score on every drive.

The Indianapolis Colts: 11-5 | AFC Wild Card
There were a lot of positives for the Colts this season. Some shrewd off-season moves led to its best record since 2014 - and just its second playoff appearance since then. Indianapolis is unlikely to get similar turn-back-the-clock performances from QB Philip Rivers and cornerback Xavier Rhodes going forward. But the team’s trading for defensive tackle DeForest Buckner should set the Colts up for more success next season, and rookie RB Jonathan Taylor stepped up to become a major force for the team’s offense.

The Chicago Bears: 8-8 | NFC Wild Card
What a weird season. Chicago got off to a superficially strong start, was badly exposed by a midseason losing streak, rallied to make the playoffs and then was overwhelmed by the New Orleans Saints. A No. 7 seed being crushed by a No. 2 seed isn’t exactly an endorsement of the expanded playoff structure, but the Bears could probably be a relevant team fairly quickly provided they admit Mitchell Trubisky is not their long-term answer at QB. Their defense remains good, but LB Khalil Mack is well off the pace he set with the Oakland Raiders from 2015-2017. Since joining the Bears with a massive contract, his # of tackles and sacks has been dropping steadily.

The Washington Football Team: 7-9 | NFC East champions
Laugh all you want about the team’s record - Washington matched the 2010 Seattle Seahawks for the worst record of a playoff team in the 16-game era - but the Footballers are walking away with their heads held high and their future looking bright. The rookie defensive end Chase Young is a top-shelf disrupter and poised to lead his unit into relevance for years. On offense, the team has found its answers at RB (Antonio Gibson) and WR (Terry McLaurin). And after a gutsy performance against TBay where he impressed with his arm and his legs, Taylor Heinicke should get some serious consideration as the team’s QB of the future. Heinicke was the fourth QB to start a game for Washington this season, and looked promising.
 

Lethe200

Senior Member
The Divisional Round
The second round of the playoffs will have four games over two days. All TV times EST.

Saturday:

Los Angeles Rams (10-6) at GBay Packers (13-3), 4:35 p.m., Fox

The Rams defense is going to get a test against the Packers, who led the NFL in scoring this season. However, the Pack D is vulnerable to a good RB, and Rams rookie Cam Akers could have a career day.

The Rams did not emerge unscathed from their win over Seattle. The team lost a quarterback (Wolford), two key defenders, an offensive lineman, and even a running back. LB Aaron Donald is the most serious loss, but it looks like torn rib cartilage, no broken ribs; the team is hoping he’ll be ready to play on Saturday in GBay. They will need to contain GBay’s Davante Adams; he scored almost as many TDs this year (18) as the entire Rams receiving corps totaled (20). They’ll need to keep GBay under 30 points, and that may be difficult. (Early line: Packers -7)

Baltimore Ravens (11-5) at Buffalo Bills (13-3), 8:15 p.m., NBC
The Bills offense is a handful, particularly at home in Orchard Park, N.Y., but is their defense up to the challenge of slowing down the Ravens? Including their win over rival Tennessee in Round 1, the Ravens (12-5) have won six straight games going back to the beginning of December. The Bills (14-3) found themselves in a slugfest with the Indianapolis Colts on Saturday, escaping with a hard-fought, 27-24 win.

The two best QBs from 2018 class clash in this one. Lamar Jackson won the NFL MVP award last season and Josh Allen is probably going to finish as the runner up this year behind Aaron Rodgers. Jackson and Allen have emphatically claimed the top two spots when it comes to ranking all the quarterbacks from that class. Allen had a better season in 2020, finishing with 46 total touchdowns and nearly 5,000 total yards. Jackson had 3,762 total yards and 33 total touchdowns. The result of this game could very well come down to who plays better between the two. (Early line: Bills -2.5)

Sunday:

Cleveland Browns (11-5) at KC Chiefs (14-2), 3:05 p.m., CBS

Sunday’s game proved that Cleveland’s defense can disrupt a game with turnovers, but there is a big difference between capitalizing on unforced mistakes from Ben Roethlisberger and forcing mistakes from Patrick Mahomes. These teams last played Week 9 of the 2018 season, with Kansas City winning 37-21 in Cleveland.

That said, the Chiefs have often seemed to loaf through games they could have won easily, playing down to the level of their competition. Now that the chips are really on the table, can they rev up the jets after a two-week layover and storm the Browns’ suspiciously vulnerable D? If rookie RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire can play at 100%, it will prevent the Browns from doubling up on Kelce Travis and Tyreek Hill.

The trouble is, when Pittsburgh was down 28-0 to the Browns, that looked insurmountable. But Mahomes has proved too many times that 28 points to him is a mere bagatelle, when he starts firing those cannon passes downfield. (Early line: Chiefs -10)

TBay Buccaneers (11-5) at New Orleans Saints (12-4), 6:40 p.m., Fox
The Buccaneers are on a roll, but it is hard to forget the Saints beat them twice early on in the regular season, with a combined score of 72-26. Surprisingly, this is the first time the two Hall of Famer-level QBs have faced one another in a playoff game (the Saints wuz robbed in 2018 and possibly 2019 as well, by dubious officiating).

Not only are they the first over-40 QBs to face one another in a playoff game, their rivalry has actually spanned four decades. It now dates back to when Brady's Michigan Wolverines trounced Brees' Purdue Boilermakers in 1999.

Brees has actually won five of their seven career matchups in the NFL. Brees ranks No. 1 in league history in passing yardage. However, Brady ranks No. 1 in career touchdown passes and has the ultimate mic drop when it comes to Super Bowl rings (six to one). Whether the Saints offense can crank up early against the tough TBay defense, will probably decide the game. (Early line: Saints -3.5)
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
Ravens vs Bills
If Lamar Jackson is in top form, Bills defense is in trouble, can Jackson have another super Sunday?
Bill coaches are studying, studying, 'How do we stop him?'
Pick-Bills on a very shaky pick :unsure:

Browns vs KC Browns did well this season, they do not deserve a buzz saw like Mahomes

Packers vs Rams The evil Aaron Rogers will do evil to the RAms

Saint's vs Buc's pull up a chair and watch Brady and Brees chunk the ball-Saints are better team=Saints
 

Lethe200

Senior Member
Thanks for your thoughts, Jerry! Here's mine:

I'm ok with the Saints or Browns winning it. Brees deserves it but I sincerely doubt he can carry the team. Breaking 11 ribs/punctured lung is just not something one can recover from in 1 month when we're talking hard-hitting Ds every week. He is looking tired and old, clearly not even close to 90% let alone 100%. His throws are noticeably weaker. Kills me because I do honestly believe they could have won it all in 2018 if the officials hadn't been blind in both eyes and busy looking God knows where.

If Brees can stay upright, they can beat the Bucs. The Saints have a great pass rush, and they owned the Bucs in previous mtgs. Brady and Brees (and Rivers) are the last stalwarts of old-style Hall of Fame QBs. The classic pocket passer is a dead dog in today's overwhelmed OLs. If your QB can't move, he'll get creamed on every play. Tampa looks great until you realize it has faced three of the top five defensive lines in terms of PFF grade this season (Saints, Bears and Rams) on four occasions, and it did not go well for the GOAT. Over those four weeks, the Bucs OL gave up a pressure rate that would rank in the bottom five of the NFL, and Brady had his three lowest-graded games of the season over that stretch.

The Browns are everybody's sentimental favorite. It hasn't been that long since they went 1-15 in 2016 and then the humiliating 0-16 in 2017! But it'll be a miracle if Baker Mayfield doesn't revert to type at some point during the next game or two, and when that happens the Browns are dead ducks. They can't win without him playing conservatively, if not excitingly. Keep an eye on the Browns OL - it's considered the best in the NFL. It's why people are so frustrated with Mayfield's erraticness. He's got the #1 protection vs pressures.

I somehow can't warm up to the Bills. I keep trying, but they just don't do it for me. Josh Allen is what we (Niners fans) had hoped Kaep and Garoppolo would become but have not. Iffy in the first two years, Allen has finally become a very good QB and barring injury, will keep improving. But both divisions are fairly weak, although Ravens QB Lamar Jackson is, I think, the better of the two 2018 draftees right now.

The Bills rank higher than the Ravens on offense, but the Ravens rank MUCH higher on defense. They ended as the #2 D after the Rams, who were #1. The weather will be about 10 degrees colder in Buffalo so not a huge difference, although the ball will not travel quite as far. D wins playoffs/SBs, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Ravens had a better-than-even chance despite being on the road.

It all depends on who scores first. The Ravens really need to keep the Bills O contained on the first couple of drives. If the Bills are behind, they will struggle to catch up. Past Stefon Diggs they have a good corps of receivers but nobody even close to Diggs - he is Allen's preferred target 80% of the time. The reverse is also true: the Ravens struggle when behind, because Lamar is pretty much their entire offense. Even if they win, I don't see them getting past KC. KC is the only team that has a perfect win record vs Jackson.

The Rams have that #1 D and a good secondary to boot. But they're stuck with Goff in the next game, and so the matchup becomes, can the Rams pass rush fluster Aaron Rodgers enough to offset Goff's mediocrity? With Aaron Donald impaired by a strained rib muscle, it'll be tough. Donald will play, but maybe not every down, and you can't give Rodgers opportunities like that and not expect him to exploit them with his fav receiver.

The Packers D is suspect, ranked middling by 2020 stats, and the Rams' mix of cheap RBs has proven very effective. The Packers have a suspect OL defending Rodgers as their best interior OL tore his MCL in week 16. Since I'm not a fan of the Rams but am a fan of the Pack, I'm rooting for Rodgers. GBay is the poor man's team in the NFL's BIg Money League, and they do more with less $$$ than any other. There are less than 22,000 residents of Green Bay WI, and I can assure you it was never a fancy rich town (they are the only publicly owned team remaining).

I love the Chiefs. I have watched Mahomes since he came into the league in 2017 and called him a future Hall of Famer after the third game. If he can avoid injury he will rewrite the record books. He showed phenomenal field vision from the very start of his career, and I can't tell you how rare that is. Josh Allen taking 3 yrs to mature is typical - Rodgers, Favre, Montana, Rivers, Brees, were the same as Allen. In five decades I've only seen maybe 4 or 5 rookie QBs who could do it. And his ability to throw off-balance is amazing. His reaction time is blindingly fast.

The biggest weakness of the Chiefs is the run defense. They lost some valuable players to FA and their D is not as top-notch as it was last year. Curiously, this would give the Ravens the best chance vs the Chiefs. Or the Rams, but I doubt LAR could get past GBay unless Rodgers gets hurt.

This is the last or next-to-last year KC can keep the core of their team intact to win a SB. FA, draft parity, and schedules will inevitably drag them down to mortal levels - a playoff team, but not a certainty to win the SB. At this point, with two outstanding WRs, a good RB (albeit he is injured, we'll see how he holds up) and the hands-down best QB in the game today, KC remains the team everybody will have to knock off to claim the Lombardi Trophy.
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
Lethe 200 post emphasizes the importance of the quarterbacks.
You have 22 men on a team, but who wins or loses depends on one man

So, today we get to see the evil Aaron Rodgers destroy the Rams.
(Poor Rams, all that money for Goff who went south)
(I would like to see the Ram D' 'eat Rodgers up,' but i don't think it will happen.)

Then we get to see Josh Allen go tick for tat with Lamar Jackson/
Josh is in trouble, the Ravens blitz will eat him up.
Jackson, how will anyone stop Jackson?

(The best team in the NFL remains the Chiefs, but football often ends in the best team not winning.)
 
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jerry old

redneck, but brainy
The evil Aron Rodgers prevailed.

The game plan of the Ravens: I never figured it out. Yes, Lamar Jackson can run and pass, but not on every play.
The Ravens stuffed their own run game without even trying--most peculiar.

Bills played well, defense said no-and offense did very well, especially Josh...

(Bills fans have something on their heads like the cheese head of Green Bay,
I couldn't make out what it was, was that supposed to be a orange bison?)
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
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Lethe200, DonM, you'll will forgive me if I root for Cleveland.
The Brown's vast improvement this year, they are rewarded by being stuck into a meat grinder (Chiefs).
That's not fair.

Bonnie, Marer5656 and Ruthanne, rooting for the Brown's is going to be a three hour job-good luck.
I will root for Browns, but I don't think it will help.

(Patriot fans, looks like a long winter is in store for the Pats, it seems strange not to see them in the playoffs.
Go Cowboys)
 
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Lethe200

Senior Member
I started the 2020 Football thread when people started to include soccer, and then it segued for a while way off-base into individual disagreements. I got tired of having to skip through multiple posts that had nothing to do with American football.

Didn't mean to confuse you, Jerry!
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
Brown's did well, an exciting game.
Mahomes being absent in 4th quarter effected score, but the Browns did well.
I got interested-didn't intend to, but I watched the whole darn game-really hurt my housework.

Now we can watch the Geriatric Bowl
Have to root for Brees,
Brady has had his time in the sun, Brees plays in obscurity down there in an almost foreign country.

They both have good-to moderate defenses, might be a much lower scoring game than we anticipated.

(That's the job of the coaches, their supposed to have developed a game plan to that the other team=we will see.
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
I started the 2020 Football thread when people started to include soccer, and then it segued for a while way off-base into individual disagreements. I got tired of having to skip through multiple posts that had nothing to do with American football.

Didn't mean to confuse you, Jerry!
Watched a Rugby game, rough. However, there is no regular schedule when they will be on 'tv.
Apparently, there a 'filler' program.
They play rough and blood one another, American audiences might fine them of merit.....
Rugby is certainly better that soccer

Neither will match Steelers and Ravens games


We have two more football weekends, then a lo
ng. long drought-what are we going to do?
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
Le
I started the 2020 Football thread when people started to include soccer, and then it segued for a while way off-base into individual disagreements. I got tired of having to skip through multiple posts that had nothing to do with American football.

Didn't mean to confuse you, Jerry!
Lethe 200, football thread should be about football.
We might sneak a bit of baseball in, especially during world series
Soccer and other sports--No!
I''m surprised someone didn't post wresting.
Archery, sleet-mo---football only.
 

J.B Books

New Member
The evil Aron Rodgers prevailed.

The game plan of the Ravens: I never figured it out. Yes, Lamar Jackson can run and pass, but not on every play.
The Ravens stuffed their own run game without even trying--most peculiar.

Bills played well, defense said no-and offense did very well, especially Josh...

(Bills fans have something on their heads like the cheese head of Green Bay,
I couldn't make out what it was, was that supposed to be a orange bison?)
The Bills fans were wearing the drum portion of a Buffalo wing on their their heads.

Wings are made of two pieces. The drum and the split. The drum portion makes for a better foam rubber hat. LOL.

They are orange because of the hot sauce.

Ever eat Buffalo wings?
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
The Bills fans were wearing the drum portion of a Buffalo wing on their their heads.

Wings are made of two pieces. The drum and the split. The drum portion makes for a better foam rubber hat. LOL.

They are orange because of the hot sauce.

Ever eat Buffalo wings?
Thanks, i could not figure out what they were; it look like road kill had been made into a head covers.
I likes the dog pound rubber masks by the browns in the eighties.
The hog head coverings wore by the Wasginton Skins (the hogs) in the eighties were gauche.
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
Brees was off. you cannot keep turning the ball over and win, but he brought respectability to the Saints-so he deserves respect during his tenure.
Brees is going to retire after this season-right?

Brady did not make mistakes, that won the ball game.
 
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Don M.

Well-known Member
Location
central Missouri
The Chiefs beat the Browns....barely. Mahomes, the quarterback, took a nasty hit early in the 3rd quarter, and sustained a concussion. He has taken a lot of risks in recent games, and it may have finally caught up with him. It will probably be a couple of days before his prognosis is known, but if he is out for the season, that may be the end of this years spectacular Chiefs run.
 

moviequeen1

Well-known Member
Location
Buffalo,NY
I live in Buffalo,NY,I stopped watching/following the Buffalo Bills yrs ago,but I'm happy for all the long time die hard fans who have continued to root for them,the team is doing well
Its put a positive light on the city after so much disappointment over the yrs e.g losing 4 straight Super Bowls
As for 'Buffalo Wings',I don't like them they are over rated.I prefer'beef on weck'
 

J.B Books

New Member
I live in Buffalo,NY,I stopped watching/following the Buffalo Bills yrs ago,but I'm happy for all the long time die hard fans who have continued to root for them,the team is doing well
Its put a positive light on the city after so much disappointment over the yrs e.g losing 4 straight Super Bowls
As for 'Buffalo Wings',I don't like them they are over rated.I prefer'beef on weck'
I grew up east of Buffalo. On Lake Ontario. Closer to Rochester. (Which explains the hockey and lacrosse references in a different post.)
Die hard Bills fan. A friend of mine played for the Bills.
I would like for them to win it all this year.
I love buffalo wings! Problem is that most places don't know how to make them.
Rule #1. Buffalo wings are NOT breaded.

For those that don't know, "beef on a weck" is a roast beef sandwich on a kummelweck roll.
 


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