50 Million Dollar Resort For Illegals

From what I understand, like here in the US, there's a sense of "rugged individualism" in Australia.

That sort of hard-headed, pioneer, cowboy mentality seems to breed things like nationalism & xenophobia.
 

That's a myth. The Australian population was once more evenly distributed between the cities and the coast and the inland rural centres. Over time the cities and the coast have thrived and the country towns are in decay. We are a suburban nation.

We've never been ruggedly individualistic but we have been regarded by others as being resourceful and useful workers. We've always tended towards collectivism and have looked to governments to manage us since the first days of settlement. Our xenophobia stems from our fear of the Asian hordes swooping down to take our country from us. First the Chinese, then the Japanese and now the muslims. The fear is mostly irrational.

If you ask an Aussie what is the foremost Australian value, he will probably respond the "everyone being entitled to a fair go" but the ideal and the reality are as far apart as they ever were, and the gap is widening.
 

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just takes one. Border closed problem solved
 
are the Russians invading us??? guess i missed that one


Illegal Immigrant “Children” Include MS-13 Gang Members

an internal summary of Border Patrol operations at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Nogales (Arizona) Placement Center stated that 16 unaccompanied immigrant children being held at the facility are members of Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) transnational criminal gang.
The summary, which was obtained by the Townhall online magazine, noted that Border Patrol officials at Nogales were alerted to the MS-13 presence among the detainees when they discovered gang-related graffiti in the walls of the processing center.

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he MS13 is the deadliest gang in the world. they been coming in here for years. their goal is to murder rival gangs here and take over. they've also murdered US citizens as well. same with Islamic terrorists. their coming in to. the human garbage of the world is pouring in

a country with no border's is not a country
 
kcvet said:
are the Russians invading us??? guess i missed that one
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No, but they might.

<sarcasm> Isn't that the reason that you are all keeping huge private arsenals of pistols, rifles, assault weapons & personal anti aircraft devices? </sarcasm>

Honestly kcvet, do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you suggest that all that you need to do to deal with a flood of juveniles being smuggled across the border is to strafe Mexico, or do you want to declare war on all of Central America? Why not drop a hydrogen bomb or two and destroy both American continents? That should fix it once and for all.

My reference to Russia was the callous indifference they are showing about the lives of civilians, including children and infants. If the US were to do what I think you suggest with that photo then, as a nation, you would be no better than Russia. So much for American exceptionalism.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
No, but they might.

<sarcasm> Isn't that the reason that you are all keeping huge private arsenals of pistols, rifles, assault weapons & personal anti aircraft devices? </sarcasm>

Honestly kcvet, do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you suggest that all that you need to do to deal with a flood of juveniles being smuggled across the border is to strafe Mexico, or do you want to declare war on all of Central America? Why not drop a hydrogen bomb or two and destroy both American continents? That should fix it once and for all.

My reference to Russia was the callous indifference they are showing about the lives of civilians, including children and infants. If the US were to do what I think you suggest with that photo then, as a nation, you would be no better than Russia. So much for American exceptionalism.
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your from Australia. how could you possibly know the problems we face here. also its obvious you decided not to read what I posted.

oh Warrigal tap tap its not just children. its adults to. dangereous criminals. do you understand this or am I not making myself clear??

have ever heard of HIV, Dengue fever, Chikengunya, hepatitis just to name a few. we can arrange to bring these plagues to your shores. that ok??. no??

or do you want to declare war on all of Central America? Why not drop a hydrogen bomb or two and destroy both American continents? That should fix it once and for all.
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we just want our border closed to these threats. need I say more, or are you that obuse ???
 
kcvet, I'm willing to concede that you face different problems to us. For one thing you have land borders with your neighbours. We don't. Our border is the ocean but our northern coastline is not all that far from our closest neighbours, just as Alaska is close to Russia.

Also, the number of people attempting to reach Australia by boat is miniscule to the numbers that you are facing.
But when you suggest by way of a photo of a military aircraft that one airstrike will solve the problem, I don't really feel like reading anything else that you put up. You aren't being serious.

To solve a problem one must first clarify what the problem is, then work out what is causing it. Then you might be ready to explore a number of solutions, none of which, short of a real war, is likely to involve military strike fighters, especially where children are part of the problem.

have ever heard of HIV, Dengue fever, Chikungunya, hepatitis just to name a few. we can arrange to bring these plagues to your shores. that ok??. no??
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We've got all of these already with the possible exception of Chikungunya which I've never heard of. We also have Lime disease, Ross River virus and Hendra virus and many other diseases but we do have a good public health system that controls them. They certainly aren't at plague proportions over here. How bad is your plague situation?

By the way, you have (bubonic/pneumonic) plague and rabies too. So far we've escaped these and no, you can't ship yours over here. We have pretty strict quarantine rules. We don't lock horses and immigrants away for six months anymore but we'd probably make an exception for these two.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
kcvet, I'm willing to concede that you face different problems to us. For one thing you have land borders with your neighbours. We don't. Our border is the ocean but our northern coastline is not all that far from our closest neighbours, just as Alaska is close to Russia.

Also, the number of people attempting to reach Australia by boat is miniscule to the numbers that you are facing.
But when you suggest by way of a photo of a military aircraft that one airstrike will solve the problem, I don't really feel like reading anything else that you put up. You aren't being serious.

To solve a problem one must first clarify what the problem is, then work out what is causing it. Then you might be ready to explore a number of solutions, none of which, short of a real war, is likely to involve military strike fighters, especially where children are part of the problem.


We've got all of these already with the possible exception of Chikungunya which I've never heard of. We also have Lime disease, Ross River virus and Hendra virus and many other diseases but we do have a good public health system that controls them. They certainly aren't at plague proportions over here. How bad is your plague situation?

By the way, you have (bubonic/pneumonic) plague and rabies too. So far we've escaped these and no, you can't ship yours over here. We have pretty strict quarantine rules. We don't lock horses and immigrants away for six months anymore but we'd probably make an exception for these two.
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But when you suggest by way of a photo of a military aircraft that one airstrike will solve the problem, I don't really feel like reading anything else that you put up. You aren't being serious.
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who said anything about an air strike???
 
kcvet said:
your from Australia. how could you possibly know the problems we face here. also its obvious you decided not to read what I posted.

oh Warrigal tap tap its not just children. its adults to. dangereous criminals. do you understand this or am I not making myself clear??

have ever heard of HIV, Dengue fever, Chikengunya, hepatitis just to name a few. we can arrange to bring these plagues to your shores. that ok??. no??



we just want our border closed to these threats. need I say more, or are you that obuse ???
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If the laws would have been followed, our borders would have been protected, instead of having the border patrol back down to allow all these illegals to infiltrate our country. Today I read that Gov Perry is preparing to deploy the National guard to help solve their problem with dangerous gang members , drug dealers. Human traffickers etc, unless he needs government approval, which will probably not be given.

It's interesting that all these illegals should be welcomed with open arms, but our President won't even go to the border to meet with them. He may be afraid of catching some of these diseases you mentioned, kcvet and bringing them home to his wife and children.
 
Misty said:
If the laws would have been followed, our borders would have been protected, instead of having the border patrol back down to allow all these illegals to infiltrate our country. Today I read that Gov Perry is preparing to deploy the National guard to help solve their problem with dangerous gang members , drug dealers. Human traffickers etc, unless he needs government approval, which will probably not be given.

It's interesting that all these illegals should be welcomed with open arms, but our President won't even go to the border to meet with them. He may be afraid of catching some of these diseases you mentioned, kcvet and bringing them home to his wife and children.
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good post Misty. I totally agree. I read a Mexican Helo went across the river and fired on our border patrol. they claim it was accidental but flying 100 yards into US air space is a serious offense.
also Pelosi went down there i think for a photo op. she's in favor of dropping the guard and just let em pour in. but she refuse to touch any of them
 
One interesting aspect of this situation is that these countries see the U.S. as being weak because of our liberal immigration policy and seek to take advantage of it, whereas the more liberal citizens here see it as being one of our strengths as well as our historical legacy.

Much like a bully picking on a small, quiet person, they might find out to their dismay that the small person might actually be an experienced warrior. In this case that would mean returning all of their children that they thought we would never turn back.
 
SifuPhil said:
One interesting aspect of this situation is that these countries see the U.S. as being weak because of our liberal immigration policy and seek to take advantage of it, whereas the more liberal citizens here see it as being one of our strengths as well as our historical legacy.

Much like a bully picking on a small, quiet person, they might find out to their dismay that the small person might actually be an experienced warrior. In this case that would mean returning all of their children that they thought we would never turn back.
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I don't think any other country would allow this. some have and lived to regret it. better us them them ???
 
FORMER BORDER PATROL CHIEF: ‘1 IN 5’ ILLEGALS HAS CRIMINAL RECORD


Former US Border Patrol Deputy Chief Ronald Coburn reported that the southern border is seeing “the kind of chaos we saw along the border prior to 9/11” and that “one in five” illegal aliens today has a criminal record in an appearance on Saturday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Justice With Judge Jeanine.”


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this is how gang members ID each other. and their enemies as well. the too

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kcvet said:
good post Misty. I totally agree. I read a Mexican Helo went across the river and fired on our border patrol. they claim it was accidental but flying 100 yards into US air space is a serious offense.
also Pelosi went down there i think for a photo op. she's in favor of dropping the guard and just let em pour in. but she refuse to touch any of them
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Thanks, kcvet. :) After Pelosy visited the illegals, she said she wished she could take them home with her.
I can imagine her outcry if 100's of them were sneaked into her neighborhood, as they are doing to alot of other states. The states are not even notified in advance of the drop off's.
 
Well, as I see it Britain became the great country that she was/is because of a series of invasions from continental Europe. Australia without immigration would still be a series of scattered colonies at the arse end of the world. I was given to understand that the USA was built by people who braved the seas from the Old World looking for economic opportunity and built a great nation.

Halr the world is on the move, searching for a chance to better themselves, fleeing from oppression, corruption, starvation and poverty. I can understand their desire for a better life, and IMO these people make the best migrants because they have little option but to work hard and put down roots. That's if they are allowed to.

I can also understand that when they arrive in large numbers they frighten the natives. What I can't tolerate is people being unfairly demonised and treated as if they are subhuman. Especially children.

Some people seem to begrudge even this basic level of care for the children who make the long journey from Central America and finally make it across the border still alive. These children are being fed every 6 hours and get a daily shower while they await processing. Is this the height of luxury? (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...Look-at-TX-and-AZ-Immigrant-Detention-Centers)

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Still, we are much worse. We lock them up indefinitely out of sight on the modern equivalent of Devil's Island.
 
SifuPhil said:
One interesting aspect of this situation is that these countries see the U.S. as being weak because of our liberal immigration policy and seek to take advantage of it, whereas the more liberal citizens here see it as being one of our strengths as well as our historical legacy.

Much like a bully picking on a small, quiet person, they might find out to their dismay that the small person might actually be an experienced warrior. In this case that would mean returning all of their children that they thought we would never turn back.
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Good post, Phil. Since the visits to Guatemala by Kerry, and soon after Biden didn't accomplish anything, returning the children back home would send a stronger message, that we mean business.
 
Same Warrigal said:
Some people seem to begrudge even this basic level of care for the children who make the long journey from Central America and finally make it across the border still alive.
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And yet these are mostly the people who consider themselves to be such wonderful little God loving "Christians". Morally superior to everyone else while spouting their xenophobic paranoia.


 

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