Against the vaccine? What about polio?

Debrah N. said:
And they did not test to determine the actual cause? Just wrong.
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No need to since she was a resident in a long-term, skilled care facility (nursing home) with multiple high risk diagnosis related to to her morbid obesity. She was also DNR. No autopsy is required for a person in those circumstances.
 

Well, this is obviously a discussion of vax vs unvax, as usual. I am sorry but I did post the update sickness and death stats in an earlier post. This was in no way shape or form a pandemic.

The evidence is coming out little by little. You can see the lies of govt clearly. The link below talks about the report and info from cdc and govt. This is only 1 or hundreds of articles. But as they say, you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

As with Johncycling said, I too have never been vaxxed, got several childhood things going around like mumps, measles, etc. Never got ill, just affected. And despite my parents trying never got chickenpox ever. I guess I was immune naturally.

I am in my 50's never been sick other than once every 3 years maybe. But sick for me means stuffed up nose, runny nose etc. Never been bed ridden.
And other than military injuries never been to the doctor for anything serious.

Wife and I as with johncycling, take our vitamins, exercise, eat right, and have a strong mind.

I don't think people value self health care, as much as they run to the doc for sick care. If you go to the doc cause your ill or sick, its too late. Prevent it.

But anyway, have a great day all!


The Most Devastating COVID Report So Far | ZeroHedge
 
Tazx said:
The Most Devastating COVID Report So Far | ZeroHedge
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JustDave said:
In September 2024, an AllSides multipartisan panel conducted a Small Group Editorial Review of ZeroHedge, resulting in a Lean Right bias rating (2.33).


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Right there is the problem...If someone post something you dont like, you immediately attack the source. Who cares where it came from. Its the information presented that is important.

ZH was just providing the information from the CDC/HHS/house committee/FDA. And they presented it because the so called other news wont post it. Who cares if the info came from a 5 year old child! Its the documents released that are important.
 
Tazx said:
Well, this is obviously a discussion of vax vs unvax, as usual. I am sorry but I did post the update sickness and death stats in an earlier post. This was in no way shape or form a pandemic.

The evidence is coming out little by little. You can see the lies of govt clearly. The link below talks about the report and info from cdc and govt. This is only 1 or hundreds of articles. But as they say, you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

As with Johncycling said, I too have never been vaxxed, got several childhood things going around like mumps, measles, etc. Never got ill, just affected. And despite my parents trying never got chickenpox ever. I guess I was immune naturally.

I am in my 50's never been sick other than once every 3 years maybe. But sick for me means stuffed up nose, runny nose etc. Never been bed ridden.
And other than military injuries never been to the doctor for anything serious.

Wife and I as with johncycling, take our vitamins, exercise, eat right, and have a strong mind.

I don't think people value self health care, as much as they run to the doc for sick care. If you go to the doc cause your ill or sick, its too late. Prevent it.

But anyway, have a great day all!


The Most Devastating COVID Report So Far | ZeroHedge
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That's from a House of Representatives' report. 'Nuff said. :ROFLMAO:

I prefer to get my science from scientists — not from politicians.
 
Tazx said:
“Turbo Cancer” goes mainstream. Fox News 45 Baltimore brought on censored doctor Paul Marik to speak about turbo cancer (1 min, 20 sec): “There seems to be an association between ... vaccination, particularly the boosters, and the development of turbo cancer.”

Watched it a few mins ago.
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In August 2023 the American Board of Internal Medicine informed Marik his certification was to be revoked for spreading misinformation.[4] The revocation followed in August 2024.
 
Tazx said:
Right there is the problem...If someone post something you dont like, you immediately attack the source. Who cares where it came from. Its the information presented that is important.

ZH was just providing the information from the CDC/HHS/house committee/FDA. And they presented it because the so called other news wont post it. Who cares if the info came from a 5 year old child! Its the documents released that are important.
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I pointed to a site that identified the source as leaning right. Some readers prefer sources from the right. As for 5 year old children reporting government releases, I remember an introduction to critical reading in high school. One of the first considerations is to check the source. When something runs contrary to science or common understanding, checking the source is not a bad habit. And today, there is so much junk being reported on the internet that confidence in information becomes more important.

I'm not arguing with the content. I'm just not buying it hook line and sinker. I may end up agreeing with it if more information becomes available. But vaccination is such a polarized issue, that it's an environment rife with misinformation.
 
JustDave said:
I pointed to a site that identified the source as leaning right. Some readers prefer sources from the right. As for 5 year old children reporting government releases, I remember an introduction to critical reading in high school. One of the first considerations is to check the source. When something runs contrary to science or common understanding, checking the source is not a bad habit. And today, there is so much junk being reported on the internet that confidence in information becomes more important.

I'm not arguing with the content. I'm just not buying it hook line and sinker. I may end up agreeing with it if more information becomes available. But vaccination is such a polarized issue, that it's an environment rife with misinformation.
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Sorry you feel that way. Yes of course you have to be aware of the source, but...when someone is just reporting something from the govt, cdc, fda or what have you with the documents source included, the source who spreads the info matters not.
 
HermitHogan said:
In August 2023 the American Board of Internal Medicine informed Marik his certification was to be revoked for spreading misinformation.[4] The revocation followed in August 2024.
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Isn't it funny how many doctors, even world renown doctors lost certification when they spoke out. Thats tyranny and fascism.
I believe these doctors over the pharma paid sheep in white coats anyday.

Kary Mullins the nobel prize winning scientist spoke out on video many times in years prior about how the pcr test was flawed. Anything over 12-18 cycles is useless. But the US and Can used 40 cycles or replication. Even the CDC mentioned, and I will dig into my saved research that 97 percent of the testing was incorrect.

People who posted videos of him were censored on Utube and other platforms for spreading misinformation. Have you read his discovery notes on the pcr. Have you read the peer reviewed studies on his pcr discovery. He and his work of his team were flawless and proven accurate. Yet during covid, any videos of him, his research on FB or anywhere was taken down.

Thats not misinformation or disinformation, thats fact. He was a Noble winner. You dont get that, or get there making up stuff and having breakthroughs that can not be replicated.

What the whole covid did is show how corrupt govts and medical and of course pharma really is.
So if you believe he is a fraud of shill or liar, you go ahead. Its your perogative. But many medical orofessionals lost creditation, jobs, etc for speaking out. Many esteemed teachers, doctors and so on with hundreds and hundreds of years of experience and research between them, were demonized.
 
HermitHogan said:
That's from a House of Representatives' report. 'Nuff said. :ROFLMAO:

I prefer to get my science from scientists — not from politicians.
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Oh like Dr Fraud-ci! Did you not watch the committee interviewing him. He lied through his teeth. If you or I did that, we'd be in prison. Go ahead take the advice from doctors (?) like him!

Best of luck.

Oh also, do you know where the house committee got their info from? Their medical advisors-who are doctors! Lol.
 
In the US, the CDC has mandated that all hospitals combine deaths FROM COVID-19 with deaths WITH COVID-19. Wow, thats accurate....

In Canada..........

- 35% of the people that were infected were completely asymptomatic. 80% have mild symptoms and recover within a couple weeks.

Explosive Report: Swiss Policy Research: Facts about Covid-19 - Business Game Changers with Sarah Westall

- In the 2018/19 flu season in our country, (Canada) 8,676 people died from the flu. Including children.

- However, 8,174 people died in 2019/20 with and or of covid in Canada.

- 6,620 or about 80% of those deaths were in LTC Facilities! Consisting of people primarily who are over the average life expectancy of Canadians (82). Sad but true. Many of these homes (as we all saw) were found with such poor hygienic practices, our military were called in to take full control over the homes. Hygienic practices so poor that the same gloves were used for multiple patients, beds had no linen due to no laundry being done, and...these same employees traveled from one nursing home or group home to another. I have read the 15 page Military report, it's horrific. In fact how there are not people jailed already is a testament to our failed justice system.

- That leaves 1,553 total in Canada who died of covid. Many of these numbers came from institutions such as mental health centers, prisons, and jails. We actually have no comparative studies from our government publicly. AKA: No transparency. Why?

- Not one of the deaths have had autopsies. It was banned in Canada during covid. Again why? Hazmat suits work for everything else right! Did they die of covid? Did they die of other diseases and just happened to HAVE covid? But what we do know is that report after report of people entering the hospital for things like heart attack was marked down as covid on their charts. So did 1,553 people actually die of covid or with covid? But...using what testing cycle? Did they even have covid? What is covid? Because it si sad but funny, the govt of Can listed no deaths from cold and flu for that year. Nope my bad, it was 19 I think. A ridiculous number either way!

- Zero of these deaths were children under the age of 19. None. Then all of a sudden someon under 19 died. A 13 girl in the east coast who had diabetes, obesity and a illness of some kind. Played it up, the savage govt, until questioned for more details then it disappeared. Are you starting to see the trend>?

-This leaves the general public (average healthy person over 8 up to about 55 or so with no morbidities) with a 0.004% chance of dying of covid.

What was the point of all this? We destroyed our small businesses, put our children who are 0%-1% risk in a state of mental and physical distress without schooling or critical social interaction at the most important stages of development. Canada spent OVER 1 Trillion dollars, and a quarter trillion in just 27 days when it first began. Odious debt that will cripple our lives for decades to come. Destroy any future for our children and grand children. Unseen rises in unemployment, government dependence, mental health, depression, suicide and addiction rates all have sky rocketed, crime is rampant... All for a coronavirus. There is over 212 or so, maybe more. Over 0.004%!

- 0.004%. Do you know what that even means? If not, you might want to look at your chances of dying for every other illness in Canada.

And interestingly enough we have had the lowest number of flu reportedduring 2020, 2021 and 2022 than any other year ever. Where did Influenza A and B go all of a sudden?

Leading causes of death, total population, by age group

FluWatchers - Canada.ca

Sorry if I am going on, but I do not understand how people can still believe after all this. THe govt stats of Can, US, UK, Germany and so on all look the same. BUt hey they all must be wrong right!!
 
Tazx said:
Isn't it funny how many doctors, even world renown doctors lost certification when they spoke out. Thats tyranny and fascism.
I believe these doctors over the pharma paid sheep in white coats anyday.

Kary Mullins the nobel prize winning scientist spoke out on video many times in years prior about how the pcr test was flawed. Anything over 12-18 cycles is useless. But the US and Can used 40 cycles or replication. Even the CDC mentioned, and I will dig into my saved research that 97 percent of the testing was incorrect.

People who posted videos of him were censored on Utube and other platforms for spreading misinformation. Have you read his discovery notes on the pcr. Have you read the peer reviewed studies on his pcr discovery. He and his work of his team were flawless and proven accurate. Yet during covid, any videos of him, his research on FB or anywhere was taken down.

Thats not misinformation or disinformation, thats fact. He was a Noble winner. You dont get that, or get there making up stuff and having breakthroughs that can not be replicated.

What the whole covid did is show how corrupt govts and medical and of course pharma really is.
So if you believe he is a fraud of shill or liar, you go ahead. Its your perogative. But many medical orofessionals lost creditation, jobs, etc for speaking out. Many esteemed teachers, doctors and so on with hundreds and hundreds of years of experience and research between them, were demonized.
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Mullis expressed interest in the paranormal. For example, he said that he had witnessed the "non-substantial form" of his deceased grandfather, even offering it a beer.[8] In his autobiography, Mullis professed a belief in astrology and wrote about an encounter with a fluorescent, talking raccoon that he suggested might have been an extraterrestrial alien.

He's a frickin' wacko! :ROFLMAO:
 
That's why I invented my own test for a virus, and consider it to be much more accurate.
Anytime I want to do a virus test I flip a nickel that's close to me in the air and see how it lands.
Heads equals no virus, and tails equals flip it again. So far it's ended up heads every time, so I'm safe.
 
HermitHogan said:
Mullis expressed interest in the paranormal. For example, he said that he had witnessed the "non-substantial form" of his deceased grandfather, even offering it a beer.[8] In his autobiography, Mullis professed a belief in astrology and wrote about an encounter with a fluorescent, talking raccoon that he suggested might have been an extraterrestrial alien.

He's a frickin' wacko! :ROFLMAO:
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Yeah, most Noble winners are wacko. Doesn't matter what your personal beliefs are, its what you did that win you the award. If you are a christian, and you go to the hospital and hes a Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish or another faith, and their beliefs are very very different than yours....are they wacko too? Still fix your broken leg or other issue.
Nice attempt at deflecting.
 
John cycling said:
That's why I invented my own test for a virus, and consider it to be much more accurate.
Anytime I want to do a virus test I flip a nickel that's close to me in the air and see how it lands.
Heads equals no virus, and tails equals flip it again. So far it's ended up heads every time, so I'm safe.
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Why don’t you try a crystal ball or the phase of the moon? I’m sure they would be just as accurate.
 
Tazx said:
Right there is the problem...If someone post something you dont like, you immediately attack the source. Who cares where it came from. Its the information presented that is important.

ZH was just providing the information from the CDC/HHS/house committee/FDA. And they presented it because the so called other news wont post it. Who cares if the info came from a 5 year old child! Its the documents released that are important.
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It's counterproductive to post about a media source's idealogy and not discuss the content and its original source covered within the article. It fuels the flame of polarization and makes the poster look intellectually lazy. You can do better @JustDave
 
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OldFeller said:
Vaccines used to go through like a 10 year trial before being released to the public.
That's no longer the case. So there's much suspicion raised when the public becomes your testing ground.

As far as covid goes, people in America were funding research into passing animal viruses to humans. When it lab leaked, those funding the research panicked and they were so afraid they had leaked something that there would be no immunity to, they quickly had a vaccine rushed out and force fed it to the public.

They went as far as telling medical people to list all deaths as covid. This again caused suspicion.

Then they threatened people's jobs, ruined businesses.

None of this was the case with the polio vaccine back in the day. If anybody is guilty of creating doubt and suspicion about vaccines, it's big pharma and the government.
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I totally agree. the pharmaceutical companies are greedy and heartless. (Our government is getting a cut of it, also)
 
nan said:
This is a very good site for people who care about their health, and the Doctors are not afraid to show their faces

Canadian Covid Care Alliance
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The anti-vaccine Canadian Covid Care Alliance (CCCA) was founded by Ira Bernstein, Jennifer Hibberd, a dentist and David Ross, who is an accountant in c. May 2021. The CCCA invited doctors and scientists to become new members. The CCCA promotes the use of the drug used on animals to treat parasites, ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19, in spite of "overwhelming research" demonstrating that it does not work. CCCA video containing false claims about vaccine safety, "The Pfizer Inoculations For COVID-19 – More Harm Than Good" was viewed over 800,000 times. By March 2022, the Ontario College of Physicians was investigating Bernstein.
COVID-19 misinformation in Canada - Wikipedia
 
Tazx said:
“Turbo Cancer” goes mainstream. Fox News 45 Baltimore brought on censored doctor Paul Marik to speak about turbo cancer (1 min, 20 sec): “There seems to be an association between ... vaccination, particularly the boosters, and the development of turbo cancer.”

Watched it a few mins ago.
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My friend recently died from it. :confused:
 
Tazx said:
Well, this is obviously a discussion of vax vs unvax, as usual. I am sorry but I did post the update sickness and death stats in an earlier post. This was in no way shape or form a pandemic.

The evidence is coming out little by little. You can see the lies of govt clearly. The link below talks about the report and info from cdc and govt. This is only 1 or hundreds of articles. But as they say, you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

As with Johncycling said, I too have never been vaxxed, got several childhood things going around like mumps, measles, etc. Never got ill, just affected. And despite my parents trying never got chickenpox ever. I guess I was immune naturally.

I am in my 50's never been sick other than once every 3 years maybe. But sick for me means stuffed up nose, runny nose etc. Never been bed ridden.
And other than military injuries never been to the doctor for anything serious.

Wife and I as with johncycling, take our vitamins, exercise, eat right, and have a strong mind.

I don't think people value self health care, as much as they run to the doc for sick care. If you go to the doc cause your ill or sick, its too late. Prevent it.

But anyway, have a great day all!


The Most Devastating COVID Report So Far | ZeroHedge
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I agree a healthy diet and lifestyle will help a lot.
 

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