They had a vaccine for TB? I remember having the test in school and it was so painful.
Against the vaccine? What about polio?
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papa tiger
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When it comes to TB I'm sure most all get tested if they become part of the in crowd at a hospital clinic.
There are specific health problems that hang in with specific groups of abusive people.
There are specific health problems that hang in with specific groups of abusive people.
Tucker Carlson lacks a thinking brain.
I'm pretty sure I would have died when I caught Covid because of my COPD if I hadn't had the first vaccine and then a booster. DH is diabetic, so he might have died too. We caught it at the same time and it wasn't bad at all, but we both tested positive for covid. I'm thankful for the vaccine!
I didn't see it at first, but you're right ......
The messenger lacks a thinking brain?
Tazx
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These precautions for a real pandemic may be warranted. But 2 things come to mind immediately.
1) The numbers are in and it was never a pandemic,
2) Still can't violate the constitution and (in Canada) the Health act.
Let's have a reliable link and put the panic-ridden population back to sleep.
Tazx
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If there was an actual “Global Pandemic” in 2020, then reviewing the global death rate data must conform to the actual definition of the term.
Merriam-Webster has as of this posting not redefined the definition of the word “pandemic” like they did for “vaccine”, so let’s review their current definition so that we are crystal clear on the terms and words being used before we review the precise data:
Definition of pandemic
(Entry 1 of 2)
1: occurring over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affecting a significant proportion of the population.
2: characterized by very widespread growth or extent : EPIDEMIC problem of pandemic proportions
pandemic
noun
plural pandemics
Definition of pandemic (Entry 2 of 2)
1: an outbreak of a disease that occurs over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affects a significant proportion of the population.
2: an outbreak or product of sudden rapid spread, growth, or development : EPIDEMIC entry 2 sense 2 We have been talking about the pandemic of racism for centuries.— Roger Griffith Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller warns a pandemic of fear could tip the economy into an undeserved depression.— Stephanie Landsman
If we honor the above definitions, we must all agree in good faith that a pandemic proper would result in an irrefutably evident uptick, more at surge or “outbreak”, of global deaths.
Thus, by its very definition, a “pandemic” must claim many lives; in other words, far more lives must be lost in the “pandemic” year versus non “pandemic” years.
These must be the basic ground rules, and no amount of CogDis or intellectual dishonesty may alter these definitions and associated essential parameters.
So without further ado, let’s determine if 2020 was the year of the “Global Pandemic”, and posit a series of important questions based on our findings:
The global death rate for the year of the “Global Pandemic” 2020 was 0.76%. Comparing this death rate to the previous years of 2019 and 2018 we have for 2019 the global death rate at 0.76%, and for 2018 the global death rate was also 0.76%.
Let us now with rigorous intellectual honesty answer the following True/False questions:
Merriam-Webster has as of this posting not redefined the definition of the word “pandemic” like they did for “vaccine”, so let’s review their current definition so that we are crystal clear on the terms and words being used before we review the precise data:
Definition of pandemic
(Entry 1 of 2)1: occurring over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affecting a significant proportion of the population.
2: characterized by very widespread growth or extent : EPIDEMIC problem of pandemic proportions
pandemic
noun
plural pandemics
Definition of pandemic (Entry 2 of 2)
1: an outbreak of a disease that occurs over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affects a significant proportion of the population.
2: an outbreak or product of sudden rapid spread, growth, or development : EPIDEMIC entry 2 sense 2 We have been talking about the pandemic of racism for centuries.— Roger Griffith Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller warns a pandemic of fear could tip the economy into an undeserved depression.— Stephanie Landsman
If we honor the above definitions, we must all agree in good faith that a pandemic proper would result in an irrefutably evident uptick, more at surge or “outbreak”, of global deaths.
Thus, by its very definition, a “pandemic” must claim many lives; in other words, far more lives must be lost in the “pandemic” year versus non “pandemic” years.
These must be the basic ground rules, and no amount of CogDis or intellectual dishonesty may alter these definitions and associated essential parameters.
So without further ado, let’s determine if 2020 was the year of the “Global Pandemic”, and posit a series of important questions based on our findings:
The global death rate for the year of the “Global Pandemic” 2020 was 0.76%. Comparing this death rate to the previous years of 2019 and 2018 we have for 2019 the global death rate at 0.76%, and for 2018 the global death rate was also 0.76%.
Let us now with rigorous intellectual honesty answer the following True/False questions:
- If 2020 global death rate was 0.76%, then was there a “Global "Pandemic” in that year?
- If there was no “Global "Pandemic” in 2020 based on publicly available and utterly transparent data, do you think the world governments are aware of this fact?
- Do you think the FDA, CDC, WHO, et al. have access to the global death rate data?
- Do you think the FDA, CDC, WHO, et al. are cognizant of the 0.76% global death rate for 2020?
- Do you think the FDA, CDC, WHO, et al. rushed through an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for experimental gene therapies that never made it past animal trials because the 0.76% global death rate in 2020 warranted such an unprecedented coordinated global “vaccine” response?
- Do you think the globally coordinated “Global Pandemic” response for a 0.76% global death rate for the year of the alleged “Global Pandemic” was actually about stopping an actual “Global Pandemic”?
Tazx
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Read through the link below in its entirety...
There Never Was a "New Corona Virus", There Never Was a Pandemic - Global Research
There Never Was a "New Corona Virus", There Never Was a Pandemic - Global Research
Tazx
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I am tired of the lies and misconceptions that have been spread about covid-19 during the last twelve months. I’ve lost count of the number of ways that politicians and journalists have attempted to mislead the public.
One of the rustiest lies is that the number of people dying in the UK was far greater than normal last year – because of covid-19.
Even if the number of deaths were higher than usual it doesn’t mean that the deaths were caused by the coronavirus. Many were a result of the lockdowns and the number dying of untreated cancer, heart disease and so on.
But doctors and journalists seem to want to believe the lies because they are more digestible than the truth.
So let’s take a hard look at official statistics which prove that the whole covid-19 pandemic is a hoax.
First, the total number dying.
The UK’s Office for National Statistics reports that the mortality rate per 100,000 population was 1,016 in 2020.
And that isn’t out of the ordinary.
For example, twenty years ago, in the year 2000, the crude mortality rate per 100,000 was 1031.60. The mortality rates vary from year to year and I believe they will soar in the next few years because of the closure of hospital departments and the fact that 4.7 million Britons are on waiting lists and many of those will wait more than a year for treatment.
But, the evidence shows not only that the death rate in 2020 was not exceptional, but that the number of deaths from covid-19 was much the same as the death rates from the flu. The Government’s own figures also show that NHS hospitals have not been hectic, overcrowded or busier than ever. Indeed, the figures show that hospitals have been quieter than usual. I’ve quoted all these figures many times. The staff had plenty of time to make jolly little dance videos.
I have, since March 2020, been pointing out that the Government was officially advised that the coronavirus was no more deadly than the flu. The link to the official proof of that is on both my websites – www.vernoncoleman.com and www.vernoncoleman.org
The fact checkers can’t argue with that.
Since the start of this hoax I have been saying that covid-19 is just the annual flu rebranded and better marketed.
The UK Government’s own figures prove that this is true. And I suspect that the figures around the world show the same story. Doctors everywhere have been falsifying death certificates – sometimes because they or their hospital receives a bonus for listing deaths as being caused by covid 19 rather than cancer or circulatory problems. I showed nine months ago that in the USA, the CDC has recognised that most of the deaths listed as being caused by covid-19 were in fact caused by something else.
But let me now prove to you that covid-19 is, in statistical terms, no more deadly than the annual flu. (And, incidentally, patients who have had the flu can suffer problems for months afterwards – it’s just that no one ever called it `long flu’.)
The current alleged total number of deaths from covid-19 in the UK is allegedly 127,000.
Everyone with brain tissue knows that this figure is absurdly high.
But I can prove that the death total is no more than might be expected with the flu – by using the Government’s own figures.
The official covid-19 figures are being rolled up from 2019 – and will presumably be rolled up indefinitely. It’s not the way these sort of statistics are handled. So the 127,000 covers two winters: the 2019/2020 winter and the 2020/2021 winter.
So get a single year’s covid deaths we divide the 127,000 by two.
That works out at 63,500. If the BBC fact checkers use a calculator they will eventually be able to obtain the same figure.
Now, a couple of days ago, the Office for National Statistics produced figures showing that 23% of registered coronavirus deaths were of people who died with and not of the coronavirus. I reckon that 23% is woefully low but it’s the Government figure so let’s use that for the moment.
Now if the BBC fact checkers pull out their little calculator again, they’ll find that 23% of 63,500 is 14,605.
And if they use that same calculator again they’ll find that 63,500 minus 14,605 comes to 48,895.
So there we are.
The total number of alleged covid-19 deaths per year, per season, is a maximum of 48,895 – according to the Government’s own figures.
Now that’s a tragedy, of course.
But the Government reported that the total of flu deaths for 2017-2018 came to 50,100.
That’s their total, not mine. The Daily Mail reported that the 50,100 deaths were blamed on deadly strains of flu that spread between December and March.
You will note that flu deaths are usually measured over a flu season – the winter months. The spring and summer deaths don’t get included.
So, let’s go back to the covid-19 deaths for the two recent winters: an average of 48,895.
We have to remember, of course, that there have been virtually no official flu deaths. Flu seems to have mysteriously disappeared in the time period that covid-19 has existed.
So now we have the proof that the covid-19 hoax is a hoax. A fraud. A deception. A cheat. A swindle.
The masks, the lockdowns, the social distancing and the experimental jabs were all unnecessary.
In 2017/2018 there were more deaths from the flu, the common or garden flu, than there were deaths from covid-19 in the winter seasons of either 2019/2020 or 2020/2021.
Those are official government figures.
A total of 50,100 died of the flu in the winter flu season 2017/2018.
And totals of 48,895 died of covid-19 in each of the last two years.
The fact checkers can huff and puff all day long but they won’t find a calculator that makes 48,895 bigger than 50,100.
Oh, and one final thing.
The Government’s death figures rely largely on the positive results obtained through covid-19 tests. If someone dies within 60 or 28 days of a positive test for covid-19 then, according to the Government, they died of covid-19.
Once again I’ve been arguing for what seems like decades that the figures are absurdly high because they include many false positives.
And last week The Guardian confirmed that senior government officials in the UK estimate that as few as 2 to 10% of positive results may be accurate.
So up to 98% are false positives.
So, there you have it.
The final, irrefutable proof that the covid-19 pandemic never existed.
One of the rustiest lies is that the number of people dying in the UK was far greater than normal last year – because of covid-19.
Even if the number of deaths were higher than usual it doesn’t mean that the deaths were caused by the coronavirus. Many were a result of the lockdowns and the number dying of untreated cancer, heart disease and so on.
But doctors and journalists seem to want to believe the lies because they are more digestible than the truth.
So let’s take a hard look at official statistics which prove that the whole covid-19 pandemic is a hoax.
First, the total number dying.
The UK’s Office for National Statistics reports that the mortality rate per 100,000 population was 1,016 in 2020.
And that isn’t out of the ordinary.
For example, twenty years ago, in the year 2000, the crude mortality rate per 100,000 was 1031.60. The mortality rates vary from year to year and I believe they will soar in the next few years because of the closure of hospital departments and the fact that 4.7 million Britons are on waiting lists and many of those will wait more than a year for treatment.
But, the evidence shows not only that the death rate in 2020 was not exceptional, but that the number of deaths from covid-19 was much the same as the death rates from the flu. The Government’s own figures also show that NHS hospitals have not been hectic, overcrowded or busier than ever. Indeed, the figures show that hospitals have been quieter than usual. I’ve quoted all these figures many times. The staff had plenty of time to make jolly little dance videos.
I have, since March 2020, been pointing out that the Government was officially advised that the coronavirus was no more deadly than the flu. The link to the official proof of that is on both my websites – www.vernoncoleman.com and www.vernoncoleman.org
The fact checkers can’t argue with that.
Since the start of this hoax I have been saying that covid-19 is just the annual flu rebranded and better marketed.
The UK Government’s own figures prove that this is true. And I suspect that the figures around the world show the same story. Doctors everywhere have been falsifying death certificates – sometimes because they or their hospital receives a bonus for listing deaths as being caused by covid 19 rather than cancer or circulatory problems. I showed nine months ago that in the USA, the CDC has recognised that most of the deaths listed as being caused by covid-19 were in fact caused by something else.
But let me now prove to you that covid-19 is, in statistical terms, no more deadly than the annual flu. (And, incidentally, patients who have had the flu can suffer problems for months afterwards – it’s just that no one ever called it `long flu’.)
The current alleged total number of deaths from covid-19 in the UK is allegedly 127,000.
Everyone with brain tissue knows that this figure is absurdly high.
But I can prove that the death total is no more than might be expected with the flu – by using the Government’s own figures.
The official covid-19 figures are being rolled up from 2019 – and will presumably be rolled up indefinitely. It’s not the way these sort of statistics are handled. So the 127,000 covers two winters: the 2019/2020 winter and the 2020/2021 winter.
So get a single year’s covid deaths we divide the 127,000 by two.
That works out at 63,500. If the BBC fact checkers use a calculator they will eventually be able to obtain the same figure.
Now, a couple of days ago, the Office for National Statistics produced figures showing that 23% of registered coronavirus deaths were of people who died with and not of the coronavirus. I reckon that 23% is woefully low but it’s the Government figure so let’s use that for the moment.
Now if the BBC fact checkers pull out their little calculator again, they’ll find that 23% of 63,500 is 14,605.
And if they use that same calculator again they’ll find that 63,500 minus 14,605 comes to 48,895.
So there we are.
The total number of alleged covid-19 deaths per year, per season, is a maximum of 48,895 – according to the Government’s own figures.
Now that’s a tragedy, of course.
But the Government reported that the total of flu deaths for 2017-2018 came to 50,100.
That’s their total, not mine. The Daily Mail reported that the 50,100 deaths were blamed on deadly strains of flu that spread between December and March.
You will note that flu deaths are usually measured over a flu season – the winter months. The spring and summer deaths don’t get included.
So, let’s go back to the covid-19 deaths for the two recent winters: an average of 48,895.
We have to remember, of course, that there have been virtually no official flu deaths. Flu seems to have mysteriously disappeared in the time period that covid-19 has existed.
So now we have the proof that the covid-19 hoax is a hoax. A fraud. A deception. A cheat. A swindle.
The masks, the lockdowns, the social distancing and the experimental jabs were all unnecessary.
In 2017/2018 there were more deaths from the flu, the common or garden flu, than there were deaths from covid-19 in the winter seasons of either 2019/2020 or 2020/2021.
Those are official government figures.
A total of 50,100 died of the flu in the winter flu season 2017/2018.
And totals of 48,895 died of covid-19 in each of the last two years.
The fact checkers can huff and puff all day long but they won’t find a calculator that makes 48,895 bigger than 50,100.
Oh, and one final thing.
The Government’s death figures rely largely on the positive results obtained through covid-19 tests. If someone dies within 60 or 28 days of a positive test for covid-19 then, according to the Government, they died of covid-19.
Once again I’ve been arguing for what seems like decades that the figures are absurdly high because they include many false positives.
And last week The Guardian confirmed that senior government officials in the UK estimate that as few as 2 to 10% of positive results may be accurate.
So up to 98% are false positives.
So, there you have it.
The final, irrefutable proof that the covid-19 pandemic never existed.
Warrigal
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Yes, it was a vaccine given by injection but it was different. The serum wasn't injected into the muscle by a single needle. I remember that it was delivered by a circle of skin pricks and was quite painless.
However, the skin formed a scab that kept reforming when it was ripped off by the sleeve of my PJs every night. That went on for some 8 months and was the same for my little sister and an older cousin. Eventually a scar a bit like a smallpox scar was left. From that time on we all threw positive tests when given the Mantoux skin test. We had developed immunity.
George1959
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On the contrary. He uses his brain while many others don't.
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Exactly.
dilettante
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Er, that sounds like the smallpox vaccine.
That.s not surprising There's another thing l believe in and that's "consider the source."
dilettante
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It is going to take years before the programming wears off. Many here won't make it that far, we're old.
I picked up a prescription today, and they had a basket of KN95s for a buck each. I asked if they sell many. Nope. Elephant repellent doesn't seem to be in much demand either.
I picked up a prescription today, and they had a basket of KN95s for a buck each. I asked if they sell many. Nope. Elephant repellent doesn't seem to be in much demand either.
Debrah N.
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No one should be laughing at anyone who wants to protect their own life and health. I've moved away from wearing a mask everywhere, but I'm still careful about not standing in crowds or moving down very crowded aisles in stores and when I get home from being out and about, first thing I always do is wash my hands.
I'm not a programmed AI human being. I have choices. And there's more than one way to be "old". Think about it.
Thank you for explaining. I never had a TB vaccine. I guess America didn't think it was necessary.
againstthegrain
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"Definition of pandemic
(Entry 1 of 2)1: occurring over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affecting a significant proportion of the population.
2: characterized by very widespread growth or extent : EPIDEMIC problem of pandemic proportions
pandemic
noun
plural pandemics
Definition of pandemic (Entry 2 of 2)
1: an outbreak of a disease that occurs over a wide geographic area (such as multiple countries or continents) and typically affects a significant proportion of the population.
2: an outbreak or product of sudden rapid spread, growth, or development : EPIDEMIC entry 2 sense 2 We have been talking about the pandemic of racism for centuries.— Roger Griffith Nobel-prize winning economist Robert Shiller warns a pandemic of fear could tip the economy into an undeserved depression.— Stephanie Landsman
If we honor the above definitions, we must all agree in good faith that a pandemic proper would result in an irrefutably evident uptick, more at surge or “outbreak”, of global deaths."
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Does either definition provided above mention deaths?
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Totally agree.
I do not wear a mask any more ( unless requested to do so somewhere and then I comply) but I am relatively young and am fit and healthy.
That is my risk assessment for me - but if anyone else decides to wear a mask on their own risk assessment for themselves, I respect that too.
Warrigal
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Like, but not the same thing.
Smallpox was never a problem in Australia. However, if about to travel overseas, vaccination was mandatory if you wanted to return without going into quarantine.
By the time Hubby and I started travelling to foreign countries, smallpox had all been eradicated.
An interesting sideline. As you know, the Australian continent is an island, surrounded by oceans. Before air transport was a thing, everyone arrived by boat. Any ship carrying passengers with communicable diseases was obliged to raise a yellow flag and it was not allowed to dock. Any passengers wanting to disembark in Sydney were taken directly to the quarantine station where they stayed until it was clear that they were not infected, or they died. The dead were interred in the quarantine station cemetery.