Against the vaccine? What about polio?

From that article: " So far, no paralytic cases have been found, and the risk of an outbreak in these countries with high vaccination rates is deemed fairly low."

so they are finding polio virus in waste waters - they are not finding polio disease in people.
Yeah its being found in wastewater...due to bodily ablutions-fecal matter, urine, etc.

That means it is in people currently. The question is why? Is chicken pox? Is measles? is anything else? Not that we know of, but polio is sure making a comeback isn't it?

Since I am an advocate against vaccines cause they never work and do more harm than good, here is some info;

Absolute proof vaccines and their toxic ingredients cause Autism and a host of other disorders and diseases;
Always heard 'There is no science that shows vaccines cause Autism'...except in these published studies which show vaccines cause Autism:

▪️ A two-phase study evaluating the relationship between Thimerosal-containing vaccine administration and the risk for an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in the United States - PMC

▪️ A positive association found between autism prevalence and childhood vaccination uptake across the U.S. population - PubMed

▪️ Commentary--Controversies surrounding mercury in vaccines: autism denial as impediment to universal immunisation - PubMed

▪️ Methodological issues and evidence of malfeasance in research purporting to show thimerosal in vaccines is safe - PubMed

▪️ Abnormal measles-mumps-rubella antibodies and CNS autoimmunity in children with autism - PubMed

▪️ Hepatitis B vaccination of male neonates and autism diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002 - PubMed

▪️ Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism? - PubMed

▪️ What is regressive autism and why does it occur? Is it the consequence of multi-systemic dysfunction affecting the elimination of heavy metals and the ability to regulate neural temperature? - PMC

▪️ A case series of children with apparent mercury toxic encephalopathies manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders - PubMed

▪️ A comprehensive review of mercury provoked autism - PubMed

▪️ Thimerosal Exposure and the Role of Sulfation Chemistry and Thiol Availability in Autism - PMC

▪️ B-Lymphocytes from a Population of Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder and Their Unaffected Siblings Exhibit Hypersensitivity to Thimerosal - PMC

▪️ Theoretical aspects of autism: causes--a review - PubMed

▪️ Conjugate vaccines and autism - PubMed

▪️ Autism: a novel form of mercury poisoning - PubMed

▪️ A prospective study of thimerosal-containing Rho(D)-immune globulin administration as a risk factor for autistic disorders - PubMed

▪️ Hypothesis: conjugate vaccines may predispose children to autism spectrum disorders - PubMed

▪️ The potential importance of steroids in the treatment of autistic spectrum disorders and other disorders involving mercury toxicity - PubMed

▪️ Reduced levels of mercury in first baby haircuts of autistic children - PubMed

▪️ Cultured lymphocytes from autistic children and non-autistic siblings up-regulate heat shock protein RNA in response to thimerosal challenge - PubMed

▪️ A possible central mechanism in autism spectrum disorders, part 1 - PubMed

▪️ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12142947

▪️ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24675092

Then;
https://publichealthpolicyjournal.c...indings-in-deaths-after-covid-19-vaccination/

Just for good measure;
A hidden Pfizer report reveals heart problems in the vaccinated are getting WORSE over time.

Journalist Nick Hunt managed to obtain a copy of the damning report, and the results are jaw-dropping.

Compared to the unvaccinated, vaxxed individuals face:

  • A 23% higher risk of acute cardiovascular injury, with the gap worsening over time.
  • A 27% higher risk of arrhythmia.
  • A 2% higher risk of heart failure, though not yet statistically significant.
  • A 30% higher risk of stress cardiomyopathy.
  • A 40% higher risk of coronary artery disease, with risks increasing over time.
  • A 130% higher risk of myocarditis (within 21 days).
With results like this, it’s no wonder why they’re desperately trying to keep this information hidden from the public.

And why not;

Have you noticed anyone in your family change after taking the COVID-19 injection?

Well, a recent Korean study provides compelling evidence that the vaccine itself may be the cause.

Epidemiologist Nicolas Hulscher reported, “COVID-19 vaccination is associated with a 68.3% increased risk of depression, a 43.9% increased risk of anxiety disorders, and a 93.4% increased risk of sleep disorders,” based on the study’s findings.

Going further, Hulscher commented, “U.S. depression rates have risen to record highs since 2020/2021, partly due to the draconian pandemic control measures (lockdowns, mask mandates, job losses) and, as suggested by Kim et al. [study’s authors], COVID-19 vaccination.”

Yeah vaccines are the magical silver bullet. They have never, I repeat never been any good. All major disorders/diseases were almost eradicated before they came along. They just played the propaganda so well, that all you believe anything the whitecoats say.

Oh, I'm sure you all know someone who had this, or had that, or died here or there...whatever. Everyone does.

The avalanche of information coming out is going to make you head spin. There are over 10k FOIR/FOIA/etc that will prove all this vaccine garbage is exactly that.

If any of you believe that a jab will protect you from the boogie monsters out there, then well, keep on trucking. All you are doing is damaging yourself with toxins and poisons and leading to a miserable life and early death.

If none of you think that exercise, healthy diets, vitamins and a critical mind is valuable, then all is lost.

Especially when most of us grew up in the 60's-70's or earlier. And you all knew the truth. There was no obesity. No mass illnesses, no mass diseases, no one on constant meds. Everyone is school was healthy and usually thin. No fast food chains on every corner. And most importantly no stupid shots like today.

Does no one see the coincidence? 2 or 3 shots in the 70's to 50-70 now? A hot for this, a shot for that. Absolutely crazy that this has to be said to individuals who lived through it!
 

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That means it is in people currently. The question is why? Is chicken pox? Is measles? is anything else? Not that we know of, but polio is sure making a comeback isn't it?


it doesnt mean actual disease is in people currently - most countries have had no cases for many years.

However as was pointed out there are still pockets i n the world and if vaccination levels drop, those pockets can lead to more widespread outbreaks
Polio is on track to be next disease eradicated but it hasnt been yet


If any of you believe that a jab will protect you from the boogie monsters out there, then well, keep on trucking. All you are doing is damaging yourself with toxins and poisons and leading to a miserable life and early death.

If none of you think that exercise, healthy diets, vitamins and a critical mind is valuable, then all is lost.


Quite the reverse - Far less people are dying early deaths from vaccine preventable diseases since the advent of vaccines. Deaths in childhood from diptheria , whooping cough etc. and miserable lives in iron lungs, crippled limbs etc from polio and birth defects from congenital rubella and deafness/blindness from measles (Helen Keller probably most well known example) etc etc

and of course excercise, healthy diets, are critical to good health too - it isnt an either/or scenario.
 

I recall from my parental instructions in my childhood that waste waters were common environments for polio. This was before we had a vaccine. And it was probably why they came up with vaccines. Even washing our hands as we were told, I had friends that were crippled from polio.


yes because polio is spread by oral/faecal route

However measure of things in waste waters applies to many diseases, not just faecal/oral spread ones and things like heroin use - it isnt measuring how the thing is spread but how much occurence it has in the population who excreted into the sewage system
 
Tazx I dont think you are reading or understanding the links you post.

Do you think just posing lots of links will impress people??

From one of the links you provided:

Five cohort studies involving 1,256,407 children, and five case-control studies involving 9,920 children were included in this analysis.
The cohort data revealed no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06) or ASD (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20), nor was there a relationship between autism and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01), or thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31), or mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).
Similarly the case-control data found no evidence for increased risk of developing autism or ASD following MMR, Hg, or thimerosal exposure when grouped by condition (OR: 0.90, 95% CI: 0.83 to 0.98; p=0.02) or grouped by exposure type (OR: 0.85, 95% CI: 0.76 to 0.95; p=0.01).
Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder. Furthermore, the components of the vaccines (thimerosal or mercury) or multiple vaccines (MMR) are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.


Says the exact opposite of what you claimed.
 
Tazx I dont think you are reading or understanding the links you post.

Do you think just posing lots of links will impress people??

From one of the links you provided:

Five cohort studies involving 1,256,407 children, and five case-control studies involving 9,920 children were included in this analysis.
The cohort data revealed no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06) or ASD (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20), nor was there a relationship between autism and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01), or thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31), or mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).
Similarly the case-control data found no evidence for increased risk of developing autism or ASD following MMR, Hg, or thimerosal exposure when grouped by condition (OR: 0.90, 95% CI: 0.83 to 0.98; p=0.02) or grouped by exposure type (OR: 0.85, 95% CI: 0.76 to 0.95; p=0.01).
Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder. Furthermore, the components of the vaccines (thimerosal or mercury) or multiple vaccines (MMR) are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.


Says the exact opposite of what you claimed.
Oh, one? Is that so. Well I guess that one was wrong. Part of the info release about autism.
 
yes that one is clearly wrong and saying exact opposite of what you claimed - just the one I picked at random. It was also a meta analysis - ie it brought together other studies and so conclusion is based on very large numbers.

didnt you read it before you posted?

Does rather cast doubt on veracity of your claims.

But no, I'm not bothering to check rest - I'll leave my point there.
 
Yeah its being found in wastewater...due to bodily ablutions-fecal matter, urine, etc.

That means it is in people currently. The question is why? Is chicken pox? Is measles? is anything else? Not that we know of, but polio is sure making a comeback isn't it?

Since I am an advocate against vaccines cause they never work and do more harm than good, here is some info;

Absolute proof vaccines and their toxic ingredients cause Autism and a host of other disorders and diseases;
Always heard 'There is no science that shows vaccines cause Autism'...except in these published studies which show vaccines cause Autism:

▪️ A two-phase study evaluating the relationship between Thimerosal-containing vaccine administration and the risk for an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in the United States - PMC

▪️ A positive association found between autism prevalence and childhood vaccination uptake across the U.S. population - PubMed

▪️ Commentary--Controversies surrounding mercury in vaccines: autism denial as impediment to universal immunisation - PubMed

▪️ Methodological issues and evidence of malfeasance in research purporting to show thimerosal in vaccines is safe - PubMed

▪️ Abnormal measles-mumps-rubella antibodies and CNS autoimmunity in children with autism - PubMed

▪️ Hepatitis B vaccination of male neonates and autism diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002 - PubMed

▪️ Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism? - PubMed

▪️ What is regressive autism and why does it occur? Is it the consequence of multi-systemic dysfunction affecting the elimination of heavy metals and the ability to regulate neural temperature? - PMC

▪️ A case series of children with apparent mercury toxic encephalopathies manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders - PubMed

▪️ A comprehensive review of mercury provoked autism - PubMed

▪️ Thimerosal Exposure and the Role of Sulfation Chemistry and Thiol Availability in Autism - PMC

▪️ B-Lymphocytes from a Population of Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder and Their Unaffected Siblings Exhibit Hypersensitivity to Thimerosal - PMC

▪️ Theoretical aspects of autism: causes--a review - PubMed

▪️ Conjugate vaccines and autism - PubMed

▪️ Autism: a novel form of mercury poisoning - PubMed

▪️ A prospective study of thimerosal-containing Rho(D)-immune globulin administration as a risk factor for autistic disorders - PubMed

▪️ Hypothesis: conjugate vaccines may predispose children to autism spectrum disorders - PubMed

▪️ The potential importance of steroids in the treatment of autistic spectrum disorders and other disorders involving mercury toxicity - PubMed

▪️ Reduced levels of mercury in first baby haircuts of autistic children - PubMed

▪️ Cultured lymphocytes from autistic children and non-autistic siblings up-regulate heat shock protein RNA in response to thimerosal challenge - PubMed

▪️ A possible central mechanism in autism spectrum disorders, part 1 - PubMed

▪️ The role of mercury in the pathogenesis of autism - PubMed

▪️ Transcriptomic analyses of neurotoxic effects in mouse brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal - PubMed

Then;
A Systematic Review Of Autopsy Findings In Deaths After COVID-19 Vaccination - Science, Public Health Policy and the Law

Just for good measure;
A hidden Pfizer report reveals heart problems in the vaccinated are getting WORSE over time.

Journalist Nick Hunt managed to obtain a copy of the damning report, and the results are jaw-dropping.

Compared to the unvaccinated, vaxxed individuals face:

  • A 23% higher risk of acute cardiovascular injury, with the gap worsening over time.
  • A 27% higher risk of arrhythmia.
  • A 2% higher risk of heart failure, though not yet statistically significant.
  • A 30% higher risk of stress cardiomyopathy.
  • A 40% higher risk of coronary artery disease, with risks increasing over time.
  • A 130% higher risk of myocarditis (within 21 days).
With results like this, it’s no wonder why they’re desperately trying to keep this information hidden from the public.

And why not;

Have you noticed anyone in your family change after taking the COVID-19 injection?

Well, a recent Korean study provides compelling evidence that the vaccine itself may be the cause.

Epidemiologist Nicolas Hulscher reported, “COVID-19 vaccination is associated with a 68.3% increased risk of depression, a 43.9% increased risk of anxiety disorders, and a 93.4% increased risk of sleep disorders,” based on the study’s findings.

Going further, Hulscher commented, “U.S. depression rates have risen to record highs since 2020/2021, partly due to the draconian pandemic control measures (lockdowns, mask mandates, job losses) and, as suggested by Kim et al. [study’s authors], COVID-19 vaccination.”

Yeah vaccines are the magical silver bullet. They have never, I repeat never been any good. All major disorders/diseases were almost eradicated before they came along. They just played the propaganda so well, that all you believe anything the whitecoats say.

Oh, I'm sure you all know someone who had this, or had that, or died here or there...whatever. Everyone does.

The avalanche of information coming out is going to make you head spin. There are over 10k FOIR/FOIA/etc that will prove all this vaccine garbage is exactly that.

If any of you believe that a jab will protect you from the boogie monsters out there, then well, keep on trucking. All you are doing is damaging yourself with toxins and poisons and leading to a miserable life and early death.

If none of you think that exercise, healthy diets, vitamins and a critical mind is valuable, then all is lost.

Especially when most of us grew up in the 60's-70's or earlier. And you all knew the truth. There was no obesity. No mass illnesses, no mass diseases, no one on constant meds. Everyone is school was healthy and usually thin. No fast food chains on every corner. And most importantly no stupid shots like today.

Does no one see the coincidence? 2 or 3 shots in the 70's to 50-70 now? A hot for this, a shot for that. Absolutely crazy that this has to be said to individuals who lived through it!

PubMed has been criticized for accepting information from predatory journals.
 
so at least 2 of the links say the opposite of what Tazx claimed - seems statistically unlikely that the 2 randomly picked would be the only ones but I cant be bothered checking them all.

will let other people do so or draw same conclusion as me
What is regressive autism and why does it occur? Is it the consequence of multi-systemic dysfunction affecting the elimination of heavy metals and the ability to regulate neural temperature? - PMC
Talks about the relation to vaccines overuse and autism.

Elevated levels of measles antibodies in children with autism - PubMed
Talks about abnormal immune responses to vaccines in autism cases.

Transcriptomic analyses of neurotoxic effects in mouse brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal - PubMed
Talks about dangers of Thimerosal and causing autistic disorders.

Read and understand.
 
A possible central mechanism in autism spectrum disorders, part 1 - PubMed
Talks about the role of excessive aluminum in autism.

The potential importance of steroids in the treatment of autistic spectrum disorders and other disorders involving mercury toxicity - PubMed

The potential importance of steroids in the treatment of autistic spectrum disorders and other disorders involving mercury toxicity.​

A prospective study of thimerosal-containing Rho(D)-immune globulin administration as a risk factor for autistic disorders - PubMed

A prospective study of thimerosal-containing Rho(D)-immune globulin administration as a risk factor for autistic disorders​


I am not sure what you dont see? Are you picking and just outright denying info? To a normal reader, it looks like they all talk about autism, causes, effects of heavy metals in the role, immune reactions etc.
 
Yeah its being found in wastewater...due to bodily ablutions-fecal matter, urine, etc.

That means it is in people currently. The question is why? Is chicken pox? Is measles? is anything else? Not that we know of, but polio is sure making a comeback isn't it?

Since I am an advocate against vaccines cause they never work and do more harm than good, here is some info;

Absolute proof vaccines and their toxic ingredients cause Autism and a host of other disorders and diseases;
Always heard 'There is no science that shows vaccines cause Autism'...except in these published studies which show vaccines cause Autism:

▪️ A two-phase study evaluating the relationship between Thimerosal-containing vaccine administration and the risk for an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in the United States - PMC

▪️ A positive association found between autism prevalence and childhood vaccination uptake across the U.S. population - PubMed

▪️ Commentary--Controversies surrounding mercury in vaccines: autism denial as impediment to universal immunisation - PubMed

▪️ Methodological issues and evidence of malfeasance in research purporting to show thimerosal in vaccines is safe - PubMed

▪️ Abnormal measles-mumps-rubella antibodies and CNS autoimmunity in children with autism - PubMed

▪️ Hepatitis B vaccination of male neonates and autism diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002 - PubMed

▪️ Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism? - PubMed

▪️ What is regressive autism and why does it occur? Is it the consequence of multi-systemic dysfunction affecting the elimination of heavy metals and the ability to regulate neural temperature? - PMC

▪️ A case series of children with apparent mercury toxic encephalopathies manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders - PubMed

▪️ A comprehensive review of mercury provoked autism - PubMed

▪️ Thimerosal Exposure and the Role of Sulfation Chemistry and Thiol Availability in Autism - PMC

▪️ B-Lymphocytes from a Population of Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder and Their Unaffected Siblings Exhibit Hypersensitivity to Thimerosal - PMC

▪️ Theoretical aspects of autism: causes--a review - PubMed

▪️ Conjugate vaccines and autism - PubMed

▪️ Autism: a novel form of mercury poisoning - PubMed

▪️ A prospective study of thimerosal-containing Rho(D)-immune globulin administration as a risk factor for autistic disorders - PubMed

▪️ Hypothesis: conjugate vaccines may predispose children to autism spectrum disorders - PubMed

▪️ The potential importance of steroids in the treatment of autistic spectrum disorders and other disorders involving mercury toxicity - PubMed

▪️ Reduced levels of mercury in first baby haircuts of autistic children - PubMed

▪️ Cultured lymphocytes from autistic children and non-autistic siblings up-regulate heat shock protein RNA in response to thimerosal challenge - PubMed

▪️ A possible central mechanism in autism spectrum disorders, part 1 - PubMed

▪️ The role of mercury in the pathogenesis of autism - PubMed

▪️ Transcriptomic analyses of neurotoxic effects in mouse brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal - PubMed

Then;
A Systematic Review Of Autopsy Findings In Deaths After COVID-19 Vaccination - Science, Public Health Policy and the Law

Just for good measure;
A hidden Pfizer report reveals heart problems in the vaccinated are getting WORSE over time.

Journalist Nick Hunt managed to obtain a copy of the damning report, and the results are jaw-dropping.

Compared to the unvaccinated, vaxxed individuals face:

  • A 23% higher risk of acute cardiovascular injury, with the gap worsening over time.
  • A 27% higher risk of arrhythmia.
  • A 2% higher risk of heart failure, though not yet statistically significant.
  • A 30% higher risk of stress cardiomyopathy.
  • A 40% higher risk of coronary artery disease, with risks increasing over time.
  • A 130% higher risk of myocarditis (within 21 days).
With results like this, it’s no wonder why they’re desperately trying to keep this information hidden from the public.

And why not;

Have you noticed anyone in your family change after taking the COVID-19 injection?

Well, a recent Korean study provides compelling evidence that the vaccine itself may be the cause.

Epidemiologist Nicolas Hulscher reported, “COVID-19 vaccination is associated with a 68.3% increased risk of depression, a 43.9% increased risk of anxiety disorders, and a 93.4% increased risk of sleep disorders,” based on the study’s findings.

Going further, Hulscher commented, “U.S. depression rates have risen to record highs since 2020/2021, partly due to the draconian pandemic control measures (lockdowns, mask mandates, job losses) and, as suggested by Kim et al. [study’s authors], COVID-19 vaccination.”

Yeah vaccines are the magical silver bullet. They have never, I repeat never been any good. All major disorders/diseases were almost eradicated before they came along. They just played the propaganda so well, that all you believe anything the whitecoats say.

Oh, I'm sure you all know someone who had this, or had that, or died here or there...whatever. Everyone does.

The avalanche of information coming out is going to make you head spin. There are over 10k FOIR/FOIA/etc that will prove all this vaccine garbage is exactly that.

If any of you believe that a jab will protect you from the boogie monsters out there, then well, keep on trucking. All you are doing is damaging yourself with toxins and poisons and leading to a miserable life and early death.

If none of you think that exercise, healthy diets, vitamins and a critical mind is valuable, then all is lost.

Especially when most of us grew up in the 60's-70's or earlier. And you all knew the truth. There was no obesity. No mass illnesses, no mass diseases, no one on constant meds. Everyone is school was healthy and usually thin. No fast food chains on every corner. And most importantly no stupid shots like today.

Does no one see the coincidence? 2 or 3 shots in the 70's to 50-70 now? A hot for this, a shot for that. Absolutely crazy that this has to be said to individuals who lived through it!
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There are still a few honest Doctors around that are finally getting heard.
Our Dr was honest enough to warn us against the vaccine.
(y)
A few honest doctors? - you mean the very few that agree with your anti vaccine stance?
:unsure: What is your point? "Honesty" has nothing to do with Nan's "stance", yours, or mine. Have you looked up the definition of HONESTY? Perhaps you ought to.
 
Unfortunately, our food is full of unnecessary and harmful ingredients and chemicals many of which are outlawed in Europe. That’s one reason for the obesity epidemic.

The other reason is because they don’t play outside, walk to school, ride their bikes, etc. Parents drive their kids everywhere. My kids were the last generation to be raised like we were.

Some schools don’t allow kids to walk to school and in some places you can be arrested if your kids are playing alone outside and not in your backyard. That’s why kids are fat and unhealthy and the vaccines have nothing to do with it.
 
Hmmm, so people won't go to an anti vax doctor because he doesn't believe the vaccine for whatever is justified.
Ok...
But I am pretty darn sure EVERY doctor tells people to stop smoking, stop drinking, eat healthy food, stop the deep fried and fast food, get your exercise, yet the majority of people don't!

I see where this mass delusion is coming from. Basically people pick and choose their doctors advice when it suits them. Lol.

No wonder America, Canada and most western countries are rife with disease, disability, obesity, diabetes and medications. People believe in the vaccine fairy...it will protect me from everything. Yep everything but stupidity.

So you take a shot, but don't listen to the other better advice. Wow.
 


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