Are you a pacifist?
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Afghanistan attacked us on our soil. Vietnam never did. Therein lies the difference.
Shero
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All? then to answer that my dear, you have to look deep within your own soul
An arsonist?
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Why do you laugh chic? You know I speak the truth!All? then to answer that my dear, you have to look deep within your own soul
Shero
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Maybe if you speak to it in French it will understand, ne le pensez-vous pas?I'm laughing at looking into my soul. It's so cluttered and confusing in there.
Alligatorob
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Of course, and I think we were right to go in after al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. However that was done within the first year.
It was really al-Qaeda not Afghanistan that attacked us. Al-Qaeda was not Afghan, they were Arabs, mostly Saudis, that the Taliban allowed to live and work in Afghanistan (originally with US support, but that's another story, for another thread). Bad as the Taliban were and are they were not the folks responsible for 911, the Taliban never attached us. If we had gotten out after running al-Qaeda out we'd have been ok.
I believe the US (and much of the world) public supported the initial intervention into Afghanistan, and then continued to support it too long, much too long.
Hate to break it to ya, but........there is no Santy.
and, even if there was one, he'd not leave the north pole because of the covid
Peut-etre.Maybe if you speak to it in French it will understand, ne le pensez-vous pas?
Aneeda72
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Hmm, we used to âbelongâ to the United Kingdom, England, as did a lot of countries. Should we go to war if England wants their colonies back?
Aneeda72
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No, I was not a flower child. I joined the Army during the Vietnam conflict. If allowed, I would have gone and fought. I was raised a patriot. I was raised to realize I owed my country for the freedoms I enjoyed and the sacrifices that were made, by others, for those freedoms.
I will admit I have a great deal of distain for those that talk the talk but donât walk the walk. There are a great many ways to contribute to the welfare of your country, those that donât should leave. Yes, I am very âhard-linedâ on this.
I can trace our military service back to the war for independence-in my family someone always served and fought. Both sides in the civil war.
. Apparently we are a blood thirsty group, but patriotic. 
@Aneeda72, I did the greatest service to my country, which I do love, by not joining the military. Know thyself.No, I was not a flower child. I joined the Army during the Vietnam conflict. If allowed, I would have gone and fought. I was raised a patriot. I was raised to realize I owed my country for the freedoms I enjoyed and the sacrifices that were made, by others, for those freedoms.
I will admit I have a great deal of distain for those that talk the talk but donât walk the walk. There are a great many ways to contribute to the welfare of your country, those that donât should leave. Yes, I am very âhard-linedâ on this.
I can trace our military service back to the war for independence-in my family someone always served and fought. Both sides in the civil war.
fuzzybuddy
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Would I rather not go to war? Yes. The blatant aggression of WWII had to be fought. But most wars aren't fought for that level of aggression. If 50 years into the future, you can't conceive of a. definite benefit for a war, then a war shouldn't be fought. There is nothing like the heightened emotions of a time to fuel calls for war, when a war isn't justified.
Leave? That's ridiculous. And go where? We'd need globalization and open borders for that. Yeah, I always wanted to choose where I would live, but those damn laws get in the way.
Aneeda72
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We had full access to Canada and Mexico until Covid-open borders were everywhere. Lots of people, men especially in the US during the Vietnam conflict fled to Canada to avoid the draft and doing their duty. Good riddance to them! They were later allowed to come back
, I did not agree with this policy.So you could have left if you wanted to at any time until Covid hit. I have no ideal why you would say âlaws got in the wayâ they didnât for most of your lifetime. But whatever, I donât want to get in a back and forth debate about this. I really donât care about the issue.
Edited: and you could have moved throughout the USA, plenty of states to choose from and many different areas. I lived in several places. No laws prevented that option.
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Irwin
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It's dangerous when people just blindly follow orders. That's what happened in Nazi Germany and why there wasn't more pushback against their policies, although since the government controlled all the media, most people were blind to what was really going on. There's no excuse in this day and age to not be informed or should I say, there's no legitimate reason. Those who are uninformed or misinformed have made the choice to be that way.
Our government has lied us into several wars during our lifetimes. It is not our duty to fight for our leaders or for corporations. To be American means to defend the U.S. Constitution and our democracy. Following blindly is blatantly un-American.
Our government has lied us into several wars during our lifetimes. It is not our duty to fight for our leaders or for corporations. To be American means to defend the U.S. Constitution and our democracy. Following blindly is blatantly un-American.
Gaer
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No! This can't BE! I am IN LOVE WITH SANTA CLAUSE! The white beard, the jiggly tummy, the laughing eyes, the deep masculine voice and the "Ho Ho Ho!
Santa Clause is the perfect man! He's cheerful, warm and cuddly! He HAS TO EXIST!
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Right. He'd leave the north pole because it melted!