Can't be alone with a woman?

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There would be no "MeToo" movement if none of those MeToo stuff ever happened. And that's the rub. (Emphasis mine) SNIP!

An unbelievably bad choice of words??? :ROFLMAO:

What you do in private is your business, Treeguy. And before my answer annoys you, just remember you brought it up. Rub all you want. :rolleyes:
 

Unfortunately, many women make false claims of both sexual abuse and domestic violence. They do it to get back at men. In some cases, men have spent time in prison. And women who do this are never prosecuted.
I almost experienced that firsthand 30 years ago, but I learned from it. I was with a group of friends in a restaurant. One of them was a woman who drank too much. I didn't want her driving home, because I've seen what drunk drivers are capable of, so I offered to drive her & also come back the next day to pick up her car from the restaurant parking lot.
After a mile or so, she grabbed an umbrella from the back seat, opened it & put it across her chest, mumbling, "I know you're trying something." She got louder & louder & started screaming about rape. By the time we got to her parent's apartment, she had torn her blouse & scratched her chest & arms. It was around 2:00am & people were coming out of their apartments to see what the racket was about.
Luckily, her parents were quite familiar with her drinking. They came outside, thanked me & dragged her into their apartment.

If police had been called, I wouldn't have blamed them for arresting me; it looked pretty bad. I could have ended up in jail or with a sexual assault conviction; many men have. Even if I was found not guilty, the legal fees would have bankrupted me.
I learned a very important lesson that night. NEVER let a drunk woman in my car! And NEVER help anyone.

Re: Domestic Abuse: A buddy of mine--married 4 years & had 2 young kids--spent 6 days in jail because after a verbal argument, his wife called police & claimed her husband hit her. When police arrived, she showed them a bruise she received the day before when she slipped & fell in the kitchen. They arrested her husband & after 6 days in jail, she admitted she made it up.
I don't even want to think of what I'd do if a woman caused me to spend one minute in jail with a lie.
The divorce cost him more than the bail & attorney fees. He's a computer programmer & made good money.

Yeah....and during my divorce hearing, my wife claimed I threatened to shoot her brother & her parents. Today, that would likely cost me every gun I own. She also testified (under oath) that I "Picked her up & threw her onto a sofa." Well, that sorta backfired on her. In my defense, I had to testify: "Your Honor, she weighs 210 lbs. How could anyone pick her up & throw her anywhere?"
 

"In today's litigious society is there anyone posting here that could have their lively hood ruined by an allegation really not going to take precautions to keep that from happening? "
Yeah. I was. I was a Registered Nurse. It didn't bother me when I was alone with an alert female patient, but being alone with an unresponsive female patient bothered the hell out of me. Some people are freaked out by the "male nurse" thing. You tell me how you can PROVE you didn't DO anything? Female nurses don't need permission to be in delivery room, male nurses usually do.
 
Most of the time, where there's smoke, there's fire, rgp. Poor Bill Cosby, wrongly accused by all those evil women out to get him? If he only insisted on having his wife with him at all times, he wouldn't be in prison now, right?

Yes, there have been a few bad apples among the female accusers. But I suspect that 99% of the time, the "accusers" are courageous women who are simply telling what happened to them. Decent men don't go through life being wrongly accused, and they don't need a chaperone.
 
Some people are freaked out by the "male nurse" thing.

Yeah, the last time I was in the hospital I had an attractive female nurse put in a catheter and I didn't mind her touching my private parts at all, but I didn't feel the same way about the male nurse that came in and shaved that area.
 
Yeah, the last time I was in the hospital I had an attractive female nurse put in a catheter and I didn't mind her touching my private parts at all, but I didn't feel the same way about the male nurse that came in and shaved that area.
Too damn funny, but true. I had the same experience
 
Most of the time, where there's smoke, there's fire, rgp. Poor Bill Cosby, wrongly accused by all those evil women out to get him? If he only insisted on having his wife with him at all times, he wouldn't be in prison now, right?
LOL. I'd venture to say that he probably wouldn't.
 
Same old name calling when the argument doesn't go our way.

You're right. I didn't need to say that because folks who think that two people of the opposite sex can't be in a room together without the woman planning to ruin the guy's reputation doesn't need me to say anything more. And I don't understand why it's you to decide which way any argument is going.
 
Most of the time, where there's smoke, there's fire, rgp. Poor Bill Cosby, wrongly accused by all those evil women out to get him? If he only insisted on having his wife with him at all times, he wouldn't be in prison now, right?

Yes, there have been a few bad apples among the female accusers. But I suspect that 99% of the time, the "accusers" are courageous women who are simply telling what happened to them. Decent men don't go through life being wrongly accused, and they don't need a chaperone.

"Poor Bill Cosby, wrongly accused by all those evil women out to get him? If he only insisted on having his wife with him at all times, he wouldn't be in prison now, right?"

First off, true he likely would not be....

Second, OK, you believe the majority of them, I do not. You may be right , but without evidence how can we [society] punish them on the public stage or worse prosecute them in the legal system ?

I posted before about this very thing happening to a close friend of mine. He was accused of sexual advances / sexual abuse by a 14 yr/old [daughter of a girlfriend] it looked like he was going to loose. All innuendo/accusation nothing more. The girl then just broke down [in court] and admitted that her mother put her up to it, and concocted the whole thing. [because my friend would not marry her]. Case was dismissed, charges dropped......but my friend's life was never the same.
 
Most of the time, where there's smoke, there's fire, rgp. Poor Bill Cosby, wrongly accused by all those evil women out to get him? If he only insisted on having his wife with him at all times, he wouldn't be in prison now, right?

Yes, there have been a few bad apples among the female accusers. But I suspect that 99% of the time, the "accusers" are courageous women who are simply telling what happened to them. Decent men don't go through life being wrongly accused, and they don't need a chaperone.


"99% of the time, women are telling the truth?" Suggestion: climb aboard that ship & fly back to the planet earth.
 
You're right. I didn't need to say that because folks who think that two people of the opposite sex can't be in a room together without the woman planning to ruin the guy's reputation doesn't need me to say anything more. And I don't understand why it's you to decide which way any argument is going.
I "decided" nothing. I can read.
 
Guess I'd better clarify. The 99% of the time I was referring to was telling the truth about unwanted sexual advances, not about their weight or anything else!
 
https://web.stanford.edu/group/maan/cgi-bin/?page_id=297
It would appear that the number of falsely accused dudes is far exceeded by the number of dudes that get away with it.

Myths about false accusation

Myths: “Lots of women cry rape when they regret sex.”

“Women accuse celebrities and athletes of rape all the time for money and attention.”
“The definition of ‘rape’ is so loose these days – women can claim anything is rape and get away with it.”
“They didn’t have enough evidence to prosecute, so she was probably lying.”
“If she was really raped she would have called the police.”

Only about 2% of all rape and related sex charges are determined to be false, the same percentage as for other felonies (FBI). So while they do happen, and they are very problematic when they do, people claim that allegations are false far more frequently than they are and far more frequently than for other crimes. Put another way, we are much more likely to disbelieve a woman if she says she was raped than if she says she was robbed, but for no good reason.


On a related note, only about 40% of rapes are ever reported to the police, and this is partly because victims know that if their claim becomes public, their every behavior will be scrutinized, they will be shamed for their sexual history, and they will be labeled as lunatic, psychotic, paranoid, and manipulative. Just because someone does not report their crime does not mean it did not happen. Furthermore, only one in two claims lead to prosecution, so if the DA decides not to prosecute, that says nothing about whether or not it happened.
 
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Very common position in Christian Faith's,I am most familiar with Baptists.
A friend's son in law is a Baptist pastor and his wife goes with him whenever he has any interactions with a female including counseling or some type of emergency.
I totally agree with the OP,that trust seems to be a missing piece.
It's been a practice around long before the # me too movement.
 
Political grandstanding at it's best. Same with the VP. it appeals to a certain group but just do or don't do it. No need to announce it with trumpets blaring. Pitiful if this is the state of our elected (or hope to be elected) officials.

StarSong said it best - -Let's not let them be alone in discussions with lobbyists and donors. That's where the biggest crimes are being committed and we as a nation are suffering for it.
 
Today we are guilty by rumor instead of proof. Just putting out a known lie can and does destroy careers.


What is it Clarence Darrow said ?..........it is far better to set free 10 guilty , than to incarcerate one innocent.

Not a quote, but close.......and very true.
 
Political grandstanding at it's best. Same with the VP. it appeals to a certain group but just do or don't do it. No need to announce it with trumpets blaring. Pitiful if this is the state of our elected (or hope to be elected) officials.

StarSong said it best - -Let's not let them be alone in discussions with lobbyists and donors. That's where the biggest crimes are being committed and we as a nation are suffering for it.


Very well put, Dave!
 
If the reporter in question were to make an accusation -- "he touched me inappropriately" -- we are practically required by the political correct media to believe her, no proof required. Would you feel the same way if the politician in question were Muslim? Would you even post it?
 

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