Depression

Kaya said:
I have not read the whole thread, but if those on anti depressants can give suggestions of what worked, what didn't, which made you feel like a damn zombie, which didn't..I would appreciate it.
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During a time when life was hell, I took Paxil. Maxed out at 40 m. I didn’t feel zombified, it made things bearable. Sex drive seemed to be affected to some degree. I didn’t gain weight. Other drugs such as Welbutrin, Prozac, made me feel worse.
 

Kaya, for me it was Zannex (spelling?). My doctor at the time, put me kust over 12 hours after my first son was killed. My husband was smart to get that my wide-eye stare was dangerous, so I think it kept depression at bay.
 
xanax. Yes, I do like that and it works, but my doc won't let me have it any more because I had to choose....pain killer or xanax. She won't do both. Even though it worked. Noooooo. They want me on a different drug. A scarier one. Never mind that xanax is very addicting but I only took HALF of one ONE time a day. That matters not. Nope. I might become ADDICTED. So, since I will kill myself if I suffer more pain, I chose the pain killer. Which is ONE a day. ONE. For 8 years now. Because I might get ADDICTED. Now all I have to do is worry about not killing myself cuz I deal with the pain all day except when I take my ONE pain killer at night, is dealing with depression, for which I now take nothing.

Doctors. Buncha idiots.
 

Shalimar said:
During a time when life was hell, I took Paxil. Maxed out at 40 m. I didn’t feel zombified, it made things bearable. Sex drive seemed to be affected to some degree. I didn’t gain weight. Other drugs such as Welbutrin, Prozac, made me feel worse.
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Paxil. Ok. I will consider it. Doc/shrink might want me on something I don't wanna take and I KNOW it won't be welbutrin or prozac. I google everything before I put it in my face or on my body. Thanks for the info. :)
 
Kaya said:
Paxil. Ok. I will consider it. Doc/shrink might want me on something I don't wanna take and I KNOW it won't be welbutrin or prozac. I google everything before I put it in my face or on my body. Thanks for the info. :)
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Pleased to be of assistance. I tend to have side effects, only thing that affected me was a touch of nausea and constipation for the first two weeks. I also took Trazadone to sleep. Initially, I was groggy, that passed quickly. Within six weeks, the crushing

weight of despair was off my chest. I didn’t become cured of my depression, I felt a bit flat in my emotional range, but hey, Paxil saved my life, and allowed me time to work through some very heavy stuff. Do you have medical marijuana in your state? If so, I would recommmend it.
 
Shalimar said:
Pleased to be of assistance. I tend to have side effects, only thing that affected me was a touch of nausea and constipation for the first two weeks. I also took Trazadone to sleep. Initially, I was groggy, that passed quickly. Within six weeks, the crushing

weight of despair was off my chest. I didn’t become cured of my depression, I felt a bit flat in my emotional range, but hey, Paxil saved my life, and allowed me time to work through some very heavy stuff. Do you have medical marijuana in your state? If so, I would recommmend it.
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That is a funny thing. Not ha ha funny either. Yes, it is legal here for medicinal purposes. But, in order to buy it, you have to pay some schmuck doc that specializes in pot rx money to get the pot card. THEN you have to find the outlet that sells it, which costs an arm and a leg. I can grow it myself, though, if I wanted to. Problem is, I don't want the high from smoking it or eating it. My innards are not happy with pot. My lungs will have a cow, and as I said..I don't want the high. (So much for me being a potential addict, eh?). I would prefer the topical...but...I can't get it unless I PAY a doc then PAY to get the card then PAY to buy the topical balm. For someone with not a heck of a lot of money...that's too much PAYING.
 
Kaya said:
That is a funny thing. Not ha ha funny either. Yes, it is legal here for medicinal purposes. But, in order to buy it, you have to pay some schmuck doc that specializes in pot rx money to get the pot card. THEN you have to find the outlet that sells it, which costs an arm and a leg. I can grow it myself, though, if I wanted to. Problem is, I don't want the high from smoking it or eating it. My innards are not happy with pot. My lungs will have a cow, and as I said..I don't want the high. (So much for me being a potential addict, eh?). I would prefer the topical...but...I can't get it unless I PAY a doc then PAY to get the card then PAY to buy the topical balm. For someone with not a heck of a lot of money...that's too much PAYING.
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Medical pot shouldn’t get you high.
 
But it does. Why else sell it for pain relief? They sell it in buds, super duper highs, etc etc etc. There IS a way to dilute it (CBD oil), but its a PITA and I don't want to deal with trying to do it myself. So....that little baggie my neighbor gave me that she grew herself will stay in my drawer because I don't want to smoke it.
 
Kaya said:
But it does. Why else sell it for pain relief? They sell it in buds, super duper highs, etc etc etc. There IS a way to dilute it (CBD oil), but its a PITA and I don't want to deal with trying to do it myself. So....that little baggie my neighbor gave me that she grew herself will stay in my drawer because I don't want to smoke it.
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Kaya, there have been many advances in marijuana botany over the past few years, such that they have learned to isolate the CBD (cannabadiol) and THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), two of the many canabinoids that make up marijuana.

In doing this they have created new strains that are maximized for either of them. THC-laden plants have the psychotropic effect you're concerned about, while CBD plants have no such effects.

You're probably right not to smoke the stuff your neighbor gave you, since unless she is an experienced grower she probably grew one of the common strains that contains a high THC level.

REAL medical marijuana is only available through a dispensary, and you'll need an MMJ (medical marijuana) card, which you can get from your physician (if you're in a state where it's legal, and your MD is on the list of approved physicians).

As for CBD oil - it can be purchased online and you can use a small portable vaporizer to "vape" it. The oil is available in several concentrations and flavorings, none of which need to be diluted.

ETA: just read your earlier post. The money aspect I can't help you with. Growing it yourself? Sure, if you REALLY know your stuff and can grow ONLY the CBD-rich strains.

Topical application? I believe that would help in such symptoms as nerve pain; it would also help with depression symptoms as well, since it is what is called a 5-HT1 receptor agonist, meaning it can help with depression and anxiety by playing a role in the serotonin pathways.
 
I have what is called seasonal depression, which begins in early November and ends after the holidays. It began just a year or so after my Mom died. My Dad, who was also my best friend had passed away years earlier when their house burned down and he was sleeping and never awoke.

I could not take any pills that alter one's personality due to being a pilot. Being on most any type of medication, other than over the counter stuff like Tylenol or Aspirin was frowned upon by the airlines and rightfully so. Right at his moment, the housekeeper is upstairs cleaning the living and dining areas of the house with Christmas music playing, so I had to either leave the house or go to my man cave, so that I may be alone and in a quiet place. I will be glad when the Christmas decorations come down. BTW, I don't put them up. My wife and son takes care of that.
 
oldman said:
I have what is called seasonal depression, which begins in early November and ends after the holidays. It began just a year or so after my Mom died. My Dad, who was also my best friend had passed away years earlier when their house burned down and he was sleeping and never awoke.

I could not take any pills that alter one's personality due to being a pilot. Being on most any type of medication, other than over the counter stuff like Tylenol or Aspirin was frowned upon by the airlines and rightfully so. Right at his moment, the housekeeper is upstairs cleaning the living and dining areas of the house with Christmas music playing, so I had to either leave the house or go to my man cave, so that I may be alone and in a quiet place. I will be glad when the Christmas decorations come down. BTW, I don't put them up. My wife and son takes care of that.
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Oldman, the S.A.D. light SeaBreeze mentioned would help you during with darker months. It must be at least 10,000 lux. Check them out online.
 
Maybe I'm just stupid or lucky because I've never allowed myself to become depressed.

Depression is not a nice feeling so I fight it and look for more pleasant things.

When parents, siblings and/or friends have died or other bad things have happened that I had no control over,

I feel bad for maybe a few days and then get on with my life. Forget? NO ! But not dwell on it.
 
Falcon said:
Maybe I'm just stupid or lucky because I've never allowed myself to become depressed.

Depression is not a nice feeling so I fight it and look for more pleasant things.

When parents, siblings and/or friends have died or other bad things have happened that I had no control over,

I feel bad for maybe a few days and then get on with my life. Forget? NO ! But not dwell on it.
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You are one of the lucky ones. I really don't know how depression works or how it comes on me, but I suffer from seasonal depression at this time of the year. Normally, November through December are my worse months. When the days start getting longer, I also begin to feel better. When I flew for a living, I would never even consider taking any anti-depression medication. It seemed that when I was working, I felt much better, but when I wasn't, I didn't want to do anything and I would complain about being tired and even didn't have much of an appetite.

This all started after my Mom died back in 2004. Since that time, I tend to just sit around and think about the holidays we used to have together. There was always plenty of laughter, food and cheer to go around for everyone. My parents would throw a big bash for the neighbors and relatives and it would last from about 2 in the afternoon until 2 in the morning. I don't know how they did it.
 
I live in a hot climate so I doubt it is to do with Sunlight because I have Clinical Depression which can hit me right 'out of the blue' as we say in Oz.
My Coping Skills have taken a terrific pounding over the years with my parents divorce and my health woes and my own divorce 10 years ago.
We all have this ideal we think we are supposed to live up to which few of us can ever hope to attain. Instead we should be kinder to ourselves and let ourselves go through our depression and grief and perhaps we would not feel like we have been hit by the proverbial Bus.
 
My Doctor told me to take Vitamin D 3....I'll see if it helps...But when your are depressed, it's something going on in your life...I have that now!!! But I'm living, I won't complain!!!
 
Falcon said:
Maybe I'm just stupid or lucky because I've never allowed myself to become depressed.

Depression is not a nice feeling so I fight it and look for more pleasant things.

When parents, siblings and/or friends have died or other bad things have happened that I had no control over,

I feel bad for maybe a few days and then get on with my life. Forget? NO ! But not dwell on it.
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Truly, you are fortunate. Clinical depression, however, is not a choice. Churchill suffered from it, he called it his “black dog.”
 
Mental Illness of any type is so hard to understand:( I wish it was talked about openly then others would seek help too. My loved son deals with depression and a few other life robbing MI issues. He is so strong and I am proud. I watched suicide attempts till he was finally diagnosed. Meds are so expensive......

Love to all who suffer
 
GypsyRoadLady said:
Mental Illness of any type is so hard to understand:( I wish it was talked about openly then others would seek help too. My loved son deals with depression and a few other life robbing MI issues. He is so strong and I am proud. I watched suicide attempts till he was finally diagnosed. Meds are so expensive......

Love to all who suffer
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Bless you ♥️
 
I don't know about others, but I don't become depressed overnight. It's a cumulative process over some time. And I'll never recover from it overnight either. Before I just had my primary care doctor, but it got to the point I knew I had to try other things. I've got a psychiatrist now. It wasn't easy. For anyone on Medicare, finding any psychiatrist that accepts it Medicare like looking for a diamond by looking on the ground. They just won't go there these days. Everywhere you ask, anyone you ask, the answer is no, at least locally. But finally, after I gave up, I found one. My secondary insurance is great, but it's government also, so there you go. Now it's a process...what is my real problem and what med works? Then eventually things will change...I hope!
 
Linda W. said:
I don't know about others, but I don't become depressed overnight. It's a cumulative process over some time. And I'll never recover from it overnight either. Before I just had my primary care doctor, but it got to the point I knew I had to try other things. I've got a psychiatrist now. It wasn't easy. For anyone on Medicare, finding any psychiatrist that accepts it Medicare like looking for a diamond by looking on the ground. They just won't go there these days. Everywhere you ask, anyone you ask, the answer is no, at least locally. But finally, after I gave up, I found one. My secondary insurance is great, but it's government also, so there you go. Now it's a process...what is my real problem and what med works? Then eventually things will change...I hope!
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I applaud your courage and wish you the best. Please let us know how things progress. ♥️
 
Phoenix, I see you write novels, I've been asked to do a book signing, I don't like to do book signings. just don't know if I want my story to go any further, the people, I wanted to read my book, have read it.
 

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