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Patnono

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Hi this is for anyone who's diabetic? What kinds of foods are you eating? How long have you been a diabetic? And are you taking medication? I went to a siminar about diabetes. This doctor claims that he can reverse type 2 diabetes, I listened intensely, he had rules, No video taping, No asking questions. We had to sign NDA. So during his lecture he let us know that he will not accept everyone, he only accepts 8 clients a month. Anyway at the end it seem like he was trying to scare us into signing up with him? He said if you don't care about your health I don't. Things like that. He said excercise is bad for diabetics? Who would you believe?
 

Hi Patnono,
I’m not diabetic but am a nutritionist and type 2 diabetes CAN be reversed with diet and exercise. Exercise lowers blood sugar in the long run which is really good for diabetes. I’m not sure why this doctor would say it’s bad for you. Trust your gut.
It sounds as though he’s about to sell you something ........🤔

https://www.livescience.com/25651-diabetes-remission-diet-exercise.html
No asking questions????

Really? 😬🙄

Why not go to a dietitian or nutritionist for some professional help? Most conventional doctors aren’t educated much in health & nutrition.
 
Keesha said:
Hi Patnono,
I’m not diabetic but am a nutritionist and type 2 diabetes CAN be reversed with diet and exercise. Exercise lowers blood sugar in the long run which is really good for diabetes. I’m not sure why this doctor would say it’s bad for you. Trust your gut.
It sounds as though he’s about to sell you something ........🤔

https://www.livescience.com/25651-diabetes-remission-diet-exercise.html
No asking questions????

Really? 😬🙄

Why not go to a dietitian or nutritionist for some professional help? Most conventional doctors aren’t educated much in health & nutrition.
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Thank you, I thought that was wierd he would say No excercising too. He said because your body is exhausted from the diabetes??? He had only Perfect reviews on his site. I am skeptical, I'm like who do you believe, both sides want your money? As soon as he was done speaking, he dissapeared I wanted to know how deep financially this would take me?
 

Rick was Type 2 diabetic. He was on insulin. He used the Lantis Solostar pen. I suggest getting a magazine like Diabetes Today. There is another with Diabetic recipes. You can also find recipes online. Eat lots of vegies. Watch natural sugar content in many fruits. I prepared nutritional recipes using Rick's favorite vegies, turkey and chicken. Occasionally pork.
Check your blood glucose often.
I would often buy him the Glucerna snack bars for a snack. When he was in the nursing home, toward the end and was not eating well, they often gave him the Boost or Glucerna shakes.
About "reversing" diabetes, I would take that with a grain of salt. With proper eating, and weight management, you can control it. Rick was diabetic for about 20 years. During that time his doctor was able to cut back and eliminate a couple of his meds, and cut back on the amount of insulin he was injecting. That was about it. I have heard stories of people saying they got to go off insulin, but I am wary of those claims.
I agree with seeing a Nutritionist who is knowledgable on the specific diet. Often your insurance may cover the visits
 
Patnono said:
Thank you, I thought that was wierd he would say No excercising too. He said because your body is exhausted from the diabetes??? He had only Perfect reviews on his site. I am skeptical, I'm like who do you believe, both sides want your money? As soon as he was done speaking, he dissapeared I wanted to know how deep financially this would take me?
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Oh forgot to mention I did go to a dietician that the neighborhood hospital offered, they too said diabetes cannot be reversed? And I went to this doctors website, he's also a chiropractor? It's like being a plastic surgeon and a dentist?
 
Marie5656 said:
Rick was Type 2 diabetic. He was on insulin. He used the Lantis Solostar pen. I suggest getting a magazine like Diabetes Today. There is another with Diabetic recipes. You can also find recipes online. Eat lots of vegies. Watch natural sugar content in many fruits. I prepared nutritional recipes using Rick's favorite vegies, turkey and chicken. Occasionally pork.
Check your blood glucose often.
I would often buy him the Glucerna snack bars for a snack. When he was in the nursing home, toward the end and was not eating well, they often gave him the Boost or Glucerna shakes.
About "reversing" diabetes, I would take that with a grain of salt. With proper eating, and weight management, you can control it. Rick was diabetic for about 20 years. During that time his doctor was able to cut back and eliminate a couple of his meds, and cut back on the amount of insulin he was injecting. That was about it. I have heard stories of people saying they got to go off insulin, but I am wary of those claims.
I agree with seeing a Nutritionist who is knowledgable on the specific diet. Often your insurance may cover the visits
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I found out I was diabetic when I went to urgent Care. My regular doctor didn't know what type diabetes I had? And she said I didn't need to test my blood??? I still don't, can't get anyone to show me??? My blood test have been showing that my sugar is under control. So that good, I changed that doctor then the next one also he was refusing to give me a referral for a podiatrist, even though he said I had foot fungus, he said it wouldn't Kill Me???
 
Patnono said:
Oh forgot to mention I did go to a dietician that the neighborhood hospital offered, they too said diabetes cannot be reversed? And I went to this doctors website, he's also a chiropractor? It's like being a plastic surgeon and a dentist?
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I would not count on it or expect it to happen but I’ve known three people who were diagnosed with diabetes who quit taking all insulin from managing their blood sugar levels.

I’d suggest learning how to test and monitor your blood sugar. The equipment they have these days is amazing. You are best to be in the know now even if your blood sugar is currently stable.

Our last Schnoodle was diabetic. She got a shot of insulin twice a day.

I’d be sceptical also. Find out all you can about it so you are well informed

Patnono said:
Thank you, I thought that was wierd he would say No excercising too. He said because your body is exhausted from the diabetes??? He had only Perfect reviews on his site. I am skeptical, I'm like who do you believe, both sides want your money? As soon as he was done speaking, he dissapeared I wanted to know how deep financially this would take me?
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This does sound weird. Ethical, legit doctors shouldn’t be taking you off the Beeton Path trying to sell you something. It sounds shady to me.

I mean I’m all for holistic healing but I’m also all about transparency. Why hide stuff if you have nothing to hide?

Stick to something tried, tested and true that’s logical and sound.

Good luck.
 
Keesha said:
I would not count on it or expect it to happen but I’ve known three people who were diagnosed with diabetes who quit taking all insulin from managing their blood sugar levels.

I’d suggest learning how to test and monitor your blood sugar. The equipment they have these days is amazing. You are best to be in the know now even if your blood sugar is currently stable.

Our last Schnoodle was diabetic. She got a shot of insulin twice a day.

I’d be sceptical also. Find out all you can about it so you are well informed



This does sound weird. Ethical, legit doctors shouldn’t be taking you off the Beeton Path trying to sell you something. It sounds shady to me.

I mean I’m all for holistic healing but I’m also all about transparency. Why hide stuff if you have nothing to hide?

Stick to something tried, tested and true that’s logical and sound.

Good luck.
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Thank you, I have the testing kit, just don't know how to use it? Someone suggested that the pharmacist can show me? I didn't know they did that? I had a friend who was selling alternative things, tried them thru did nothing for me. I hear about the side effects of these Medication's, that scares me.
 
I acquired type 2 last year. Don't need meds. or insulin at this point. I try to take my blood glucose nearly every day which was recommended by my diabetes educator. She was very helpful to me with all the specifics of diabetes and what I eat. I also have a diabetes guide given to me by her. I don't usually use recipes but eat healthy foods. I also have to watch fat in the diet and salt intake because of other health concerns I have. My glucose was really good yesterday.
 
Ruthanne said:
I acquired type 2 last year. Don't need meds. or insulin at this point. I try to take my blood glucose nearly every day which was recommended by my diabetes educator. She was very helpful to me with all the specifics of diabetes and what I eat. I also have a diabetes guide given to me by her. I don't usually use recipes but eat healthy foods. I also have to watch fat in the diet and salt intake because of other health concerns I have. My glucose was really good yesterday.
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That's Awesome, I'm taking medication, she said I didn't need to check my sugar? She acted like it wasn't Serious? By the way she's Not my doctor Anymore. I even ran out of Medication at one time, my doctor wasn't available to sign on for a refill, I was told not taking it for awhile would be Ok. Keep up the good Work
 
Patnono said:
That's Awesome, I'm taking medication, she said I didn't need to check my sugar? She acted like it wasn't Serious? By the way she's Not my doctor Anymore. I even ran out of Medication at one time, my doctor wasn't available to sign on for a refill, I was told not taking it for awhile would be Ok. Keep up the good Work
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Thanks Pat. That's good she's not your doctor anymore. With diabetes we need to check our glucose daily or more for those on medication I believe.
 
I was diagnosed 12 years ago. My sister tested me with her meter - over 500. Doctor wanted me on daily aspirin, diabetes drugs, insulin, & also told me to drink 6 glasses of Gatorade/day for dehydration. Good thing I didn't listen to him; Gatorade is basically liquid sugar. Second doctor told me his advice would likely put me in a coma or dead. And lab tests showed I was not dehydrated. You'd think a doctor would know.......
I did some research & was able to change my diet, normalize blood sugar & lose weight. That was great, but (contrary to what we've been told about weight loss,) my blood sugar went UP after losing weight. I've been insulin dependent for the past 5 years. No meds other than insulin & careful diet. I don't trust the safety of oral diabetes meds.
Diabetes is different in everyone. My sister can function when her blood sugar is 60-70. I can't safely stand or walk at anything under 100.

Diabetics have to be careful about choices of doctors and dentists. I had an incompetent root canal by a dentist that caused sepsis, which can be deadly & the spreading infection also caused my blood sugar to spike - & I was too weak to get out of bed. That cost me 8 days in the hospital - 4 days in ICU.
It also cost him - big time.....
 
win231 said:
I was diagnosed 12 years ago. My sister tested me with her meter - over 500. Doctor wanted me on daily aspirin, diabetes drugs, insulin, & also told me to drink 6 glasses of Gatorade/day for dehydration. Good thing I didn't listen to him; Gatorade is basically liquid sugar. Second doctor told me his advice would likely put me in a coma or dead. And lab tests showed I was not dehydrated. You'd think a doctor would know.......
I did some research & was able to change my diet, normalize blood sugar & lose weight. That was great, but (contrary to what we've been told about weight loss,) my blood sugar went UP after losing weight. I've been insulin dependent for the past 5 years. No meds other than insulin & careful diet. I don't trust the safety of oral diabetes meds.
Diabetes is different in everyone. My sister can function when her blood sugar is 60-70. I can't safely stand or walk at anything under 100.

Diabetics have to be careful about choices of doctors and dentists. I had an incompetent root canal by a dentist that caused sepsis, which can be deadly & the spreading infection also caused my blood sugar to spike - & I was too weak to get out of bed. That cost me 8 days in the hospital - 4 days in ICU.
It also cost him - big time.....
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My blood sugar was 91 yesterday and I felt a lot better. So sorry you went through so much due to the incompetent doctors!
 
Patnono said:
Hi this is for anyone who's diabetic? What kinds of foods are you eating? How long have you been a diabetic? And are you taking medication? I went to a siminar about diabetes. This doctor claims that he can reverse type 2 diabetes, I listened intensely, he had rules, No video taping, No asking questions. We had to sign NDA. So during his lecture he let us know that he will not accept everyone, he only accepts 8 clients a month. Anyway at the end it seem like he was trying to scare us into signing up with him? He said if you don't care about your health I don't. Things like that. He said excercise is bad for diabetics? Who would you believe?
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Well, you can attend those seminars, but be careful about speakers who use the word "cure," instead of "control." Some diabetics can control their blood sugar without meds or insulin for several years, some for a couple of years, & some can't without insulin or meds. One of the things that bothers me about those seminars, is the way they're selling diets & supplements. I've heard some diabetics suggest eating only foods that don't have carbohydrates - meat, eggs & cheese & not much else - I think they call it "Keto." They'll criticize any food that has carbs because they raise blood sugar. Personally, I don't think it's healthy to eat that way & it can cause other problems, but.....whatever.
 
win231 said:
I was diagnosed 12 years ago. My sister tested me with her meter - over 500. Doctor wanted me on daily aspirin, diabetes drugs, insulin, & also told me to drink 6 glasses of Gatorade/day for dehydration. Good thing I didn't listen to him; Gatorade is basically liquid sugar. Second doctor told me his advice would likely put me in a coma or dead. And lab tests showed I was not dehydrated. You'd think a doctor would know.......
I did some research & was able to change my diet, normalize blood sugar & lose weight. That was great, but (contrary to what we've been told about weight loss,) my blood sugar went UP after losing weight. I've been insulin dependent for the past 5 years. No meds other than insulin & careful diet. I don't trust the safety of oral diabetes meds.
Diabetes is different in everyone. My sister can function when her blood sugar is 60-70. I can't safely stand or walk at anything under 100.

Diabetics have to be careful about choices of doctors and dentists. I had an incompetent root canal by a dentist that caused sepsis, which can be deadly & the spreading infection also caused my blood sugar to spike - & I was too weak to get out of bed. That cost me 8 days in the hospital - 4 days in ICU.
It also cost him - big time.....
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Wow, I was going to say Gatorade is the worst thing you can drink. So far I haven't experienced anything negative Happen to me surprisingly cause I've had the WORSE doctors who where of NO help. I just pee alot, I'm on metiforman, my blood test have all been good. I went to a siminar about diabetes, doctor claimed that he could reverse your diabetes? But he said some weird things like excercise wasn't good for diabetics? That diabetes makes you tired so it would make it WORSE? This decease is so exhausting to deal with seems like anything you do is wrong? Doctors don't even have the same answers? Your story has me scared, I read that if you think your sugar is Too High drink apple cider vinegar. Thanks for writing
 
Patnono said:
Hi this is for anyone who's diabetic? What kinds of foods are you eating? How long have you been a diabetic? And are you taking medication? I went to a siminar about diabetes. This doctor claims that he can reverse type 2 diabetes, I listened intensely, he had rules, No video taping, No asking questions. We had to sign NDA. So during his lecture he let us know that he will not accept everyone, he only accepts 8 clients a month. Anyway at the end it seem like he was trying to scare us into signing up with him? He said if you don't care about your health I don't. Things like that. He said excercise is bad for diabetics? Who would you believe?
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This guy sounds like a snake oil salesman to me. I do not believe any reputable MD would ask for a NDA. That's ridiculous. I wouldn't have anything to do with that guy or his "cures."
 
Marie5656 said:
Rick was Type 2 diabetic. He was on insulin. He used the Lantis Solostar pen. I suggest getting a magazine like Diabetes Today. There is another with Diabetic recipes. You can also find recipes online. Eat lots of vegies. Watch natural sugar content in many fruits. I prepared nutritional recipes using Rick's favorite vegies, turkey and chicken. Occasionally pork.
Check your blood glucose often.
I would often buy him the Glucerna snack bars for a snack. When he was in the nursing home, toward the end and was not eating well, they often gave him the Boost or Glucerna shakes.
About "reversing" diabetes, I would take that with a grain of salt. With proper eating, and weight management, you can control it. Rick was diabetic for about 20 years. During that time his doctor was able to cut back and eliminate a couple of his meds, and cut back on the amount of insulin he was injecting. That was about it. I have heard stories of people saying they got to go off insulin, but I am wary of those claims.
I agree with seeing a Nutritionist who is knowledgable on the specific diet. Often your insurance may cover the visits
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My insurance won't cover a nutritionist, out of pocket to see one on my own would be $400. I
Which I can't afford, I've bought recipe books and got recipes off the internet.
 
Patnono said:
Wow, I was going to say Gatorade is the worst thing you can drink. So far I haven't experienced anything negative Happen to me surprisingly cause I've had the WORSE doctors who where of NO help. I just pee alot, I'm on metiforman, my blood test have all been good. I went to a siminar about diabetes, doctor claimed that he could reverse your diabetes? But he said some weird things like excercise wasn't good for diabetics? That diabetes makes you tired so it would make it WORSE? This decease is so exhausting to deal with seems like anything you do is wrong? Doctors don't even have the same answers? Your story has me scared, I read that if you think your sugar is Too High drink apple cider vinegar. Thanks for writing
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When blood sugar is too high, drinking lots of water can help your body get rid of some of the extra sugar. I've heard about vinegar but I've never tried it. But the only way to lower very high blood sugar is insulin - preferably fast-acting--and exercise.

Re: Scary doctors - Several years ago, I read something that I didn't believe at the time - that some doctors, dentists, RN's & paramedics are drawn to the medical profession because they enjoy seeing people suffer. I've grown to believe it after experiencing two dentists and the one doctor I mentioned above when I was first diagnosed with diabetes. Why else would a doctor tell a diabetic to drink Gatorade? Even though I didn't know much about diabetes when I was first diagnosed, I asked him, "Doesn't Gatorade have sugar in it?" He replied, "Not really."

One dentist I was referred to for a root canal was like that. I've had 28 root canals, so I know what to expect. Very little pain when it's done right. Before he started, he said, "If you feel any pain, just raise your hand to let me know & I'll give you more anesthetic." My first clue was when he started drilling before I was even half numb. When I raised my hand, he ignored me & just drilled with MORE pressure. He gave me a tiny bit of anesthetic & started drilling again, even after I said I could feel everything. The second time, I almost jumped out the chair & he SMILED. I grabbed his hand, got up from the chair, stood 1 inch from him & said, "Get out of here & have your other dentist come in because you won't survive this procedure." He chuckled & said, "You mean you won't survive it."
I said, "No, YOU won't survive it."
He got the message & left quickly. His partner in the practice came in & asked me, "What did you say to him....he's going home & he's scared?"
I explained what he was doing & he said, "Hmmmm, several other patients complained about him."
I said, "It's not wise to have him here; you're discouraging patients from coming here. He seems to enjoy causing pain. And one of his patients who's not as nice as I am might hurt him & you'll have to clean up the mess."
He said, "You're right." He completed the root canal - with hardly any pain.
 
win231 said:
When blood sugar is too high, drinking lots of water can help your body get rid of some of the extra sugar. I've heard about vinegar but I've never tried it. But the only way to lower very high blood sugar is insulin - preferably fast-acting--and exercise.

Re: Scary doctors - Several years ago, I read something that I didn't believe at the time - that some doctors, dentists, RN's & paramedics are drawn to the medical profession because they enjoy seeing people suffer. I've grown to believe it after experiencing two dentists and the one doctor I mentioned above when I was first diagnosed with diabetes. Why else would a doctor tell a diabetic to drink Gatorade? Even though I didn't know much about diabetes when I was first diagnosed, I asked him, "Doesn't Gatorade have sugar in it?" He replied, "Not really."

One dentist I was referred to for a root canal was like that. I've had 28 root canals, so I know what to expect. Very little pain when it's done right. Before he started, he said, "If you feel any pain, just raise your hand to let me know & I'll give you more anesthetic." My first clue was when he started drilling before I was even half numb. When I raised my hand, he ignored me & just drilled with MORE pressure. He gave me a tiny bit of anesthetic & started drilling again, even after I said I could feel everything. The second time, I almost jumped out the chair & he SMILED. I grabbed his hand, got up from the chair, stood 1 inch from him & said, "Get out of here & have your other dentist come in because you won't survive this procedure." He chuckled & said, "You mean you won't survive it."
I said, "No, YOU won't survive it."
He got the message & left quickly. His partner in the practice came in & asked me, "What did you say to him....he's going home & he's scared?"
I explained what he was doing & he said, "Hmmmm, several other patients complained about him."
I said, "It's not wise to have him here; you're discouraging patients from coming here. He seems to enjoy causing pain. And one of his patients who's not as nice as I am might hurt him & you'll have to clean up the mess."
He said, "You're right." He completed the root canal - with hardly any pain.
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Wow it never accured to me about going to a dentist would be a problem for Diabetics? I've been told I need a deep cleaning? So I'm going to ask if they've worked on people with Diabetics? I have tried Apple cider vinegar, it takes getting use too, add sweetener. I read it helps with blood sugar control. I've been drinking guava tea, I saw a doctor Oz program stating that it also helps. Statements from other people who've used it.
 
I've been a type II for 25 years. I was tired of it ruling every aspect of my life,
Five years ago, I said to hell with it! I still take my drugs, but the measuring, monitoring when and what to eat- were discarded.
I'm still careful, but I will no longer be a slave to rules.
There are a log of rules, what foods, when, how often that are in error. I'm going to live what years of my life that are left as I
choose.
This is not for everybody, probably very few, but it is my way.
 

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