Do you agree that all psychological suffering is self inflicted

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It took me years to accept that I could have total control over my emotions. I think it was about the time I understood that is actually the only thing over which we have complete control. I was told on different occasions 'of course you should be upset' and I went along. Now I can't think of any situation in which I could not have psychological/emotional control once the situation is fully accepted and realized.

Edited 5/12/21 @ noon. I should have made it clear the above does not apply to anyone suffering from mental illness. I also probably should not have said 'all' :unsure:
 

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I have the ability to somewhat control my psychological state under certain stressors through common-sense reasoning and acceptance, depending on the situation or event, but traumatic things that leave me void of being able to console my thoughts at the time do have a way of causing me suffering.

I see my own state of handling such as being both healthy and balanced.
 
I have the ability to somewhat control my psychological state under certain stressors through common-sense reasoning and acceptance, depending on the situation or event, but traumatic things that leave me void of being able to console my thoughts at the time do have a way of causing me suffering.

I see my own state of handling such as being both healthy and balanced.
I pretty much agree and further, I believe if one 'works on it' they can get to the place of control though it may not necessarily be a quick or 'easy' process
 

I've experienced super strong Empath ability making me sensitive to people's pain and emotions.

Not having the ability to control symptoms is not the same as self-inflicted symptoms. Hallucinations, intense mood swings, depression, delusions, sleep depravation, etc.

One might experience one or more of these symptoms with certain types of mental illness. I do not recall intentionally inflicting myself with any of the above symptoms.
 

"Do you agree that all psychological suffering is self inflicted?"​

No. People with schizophrenia have hallucinations, hear their own thoughts and fears through the parts of the brain that normally receive hearing, and feel an almost constant sense of impending doom and paranoia. All that suffering is believed to be caused by excess dopamine in the brain, neurotransmitters filling the brain like a blizzard, and it can get so bad that most people with the disease have tried to kill themselves at least once.

If you think your own brain can't tell you lies and fill you with fear, just remember the last time you had a bad nightmare. I don't think we choose to have brain disease anymore than we choose to have heart disease or liver disease and so, a definite no, I don't think it's self-inflicted. Neither is bi-polar, clinical depression or most mental illnesses.

If you're talking about a person with a healthy brain making up his/her mind to try to focus on the positive, I would agree that's possible and can make for a happier life, but even then some suffering is bound to come along. I have a friend who is known for her happy, positive attitude, but when her daughter died of Covid last winter I think she suffered.
 
It took me years to accept that I could have total control over my emotions. I think it was about the time I understood that is actually the only thing over which we have complete control. I was told on different occasions 'of course you should be upset' and I went along. Now I can't think of any situation in which I could not have psychological/emotional control once the situation is fully accepted and realized.
For me, that level of control would be both unlikely and undesirable. For most of us, part of being human is emotional vulnerability. What that entails differs according to one’s nature and experience. Striving for balance,

emotional well being, evolution of self, all good things. But, life can rip your heart out by the roots and serve it up to you on toast, in an instant. Recovery is possible, avoidance of suffering less so. For example, if my son died a horrible senseless

death I would be devastated. I would always have a hole in my soul from that moment on. I am still processing the suicide of my vet. Very traumatising to witness someone blow their head off. Also, if one is an empathetic sort, one’s emotional radar is very strong, we pick up a lot of information others don’t. We are prone to

burn out, and need time to relax and regenerate. This quality is very useful in the helping professions, but requires discipline and self care. I focus more on controlling my actions, for myself and others. A final thought, the day I cease

being upset at cruelty, racism, war, terrorism, domestic violence, homophobia, misogyny, killing of thousands of indigenous women, child abuse, slavery, etc, on that day I will mourn the loss of my humanity. Shutting down and completely shutting out the pain of others would turn my heart to stone.
 
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Emotional (and some physical) suffering comes from an inability to accept something. I suffer when I ruminate about things that happened to me because I can't accept the fact that there are so many evil people in the world. To accept that means not wanting to remain in this world, and it hasn't come to that yet, but I completely understand why people do themselves in. For a lot of people who don't have someone, or I guess it could be some-thing, to provide a little shelter from the storm, life is enormously painful.
 
Do you agree that all psychological suffering is self inflicted?

No.



Agree 100%.

I have known Jews who survived Nazi death camps. Not one would ever buy the notion that emotional suffering is self imposed. A Nazi death camp survivor thought I had it worse than he did as he could understand why Nazis would hate his guts and torment him as they were programmed to doing so. But he could not understand how someone could be tormented nearly to death by his own mother like I was. If he was here today he would agree that emotional suffering is not self imposed. He was living proof that such a myth is without factual basis.
 
Agree 100%.

I have known Jews who survived Nazi death camps. Not one would ever buy the notion that emotional suffering is self imposed. A Nazi death camp survivor thought I had it worse than he did as he could understand why Nazis would hate his guts and torment him as they were programmed to doing so. But he could not understand how someone could be tormented nearly to death by his own mother like I was. If he was here today he would agree that emotional suffering is not self imposed. He was living proof that such a myth is without factual basis.
I am so sorry you we through such emotional suffering at the hands of your mother. Sending love and comfort from one survivor to another. I salute your strength, your amazing capacity to endure. We live, the monsters lose. 💕🥰 🤗
 
Well ..... I'm 74 .... so far you're right.
Many who have endured such horror do not fare well in their latter years. Substance abuse, family estrangement, depression, difficulties in functioning at a reasonably normal level. Many don’t even make it to old age. It probably

doesn’t feel like it, but to have lived this long with a dragon chewing on your emotional entrails is a testament to the
courage of the human spirit. I salute you.
 
Many who have endured such horror do not fare well in their latter years. Substance abuse, family estrangement, depression, difficulties in functioning at a reasonably normal level. Many don’t even make it to old age. It probably

doesn’t feel like it, but to have lived this long with a dragon chewing on your emotional entrails is a testament to the
courage of the human spirit. I salute you.
"Horror" is not required. Neglect or incessant disapproval is sufficient.
 

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