Do you believe the US has truly dealt with Racism?

"That's where the crime is". That's what a lot of police and Whites, say about Black communities. So, that means Whites don't commit crime? At trial, all us Whites have to do is point out our White skin, and the charges will be dropped, because Blacks commit all the crime. Blacks are worse drivers than Whites. Blacks get twice the number of speeding tickets than Whites.
 

Sunny said:
Hey, rpg, what is the name of this thread? ;)

And btw, continually mentioning "criminal" and "black" in the same sentence does constitute a form of thinly disguised racism.
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Hey Sunny...and ?...I read perfectly the thread name, and responded to it. You are the one that brought the word 'claimed' into it, I responded to that.


"continually mentioning "criminal" and "black" in the same sentence does constitute a form of thinly disguised racism"

Really, how's that ?....Perhaps [you] want it too.
 

rgp said:
Hey Sunny...and ?...I read perfectly the thread name, and responded to it. You are the one that brought the word 'claimed' into it, I responded to that.


"continually mentioning "criminal" and "black" in the same sentence does constitute a form of thinly disguised racism"

Really, how's that ?....Perhaps [you] want it too.
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Does it really matter? All we need to know is to stay out of black areas if we wish to avoid racial problems.
 
Big Horn said:
Does it really matter? All we need to know is to stay out of black areas if we wish to avoid racial problems.
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So.......you think blacks all live together in the same area, and that the only racial problems are among those blacks in those areas, that blacks don't venture outside their own black areas, and whites don't commit crimes?

Hmmmm. What a limited existence you've had.

Actually I don't think you believe that tripe. Just your attempt to start a flame war.

Good luck with that...... most people's eyes are rolling and glazing over.
 
HiDesertHal said:
Lon is right.

Laws and regulations prohibiting racism can be enacted, and individuals may obey them...but that doesn't necessarily change the way they feel about other races. Externally they may look like they have nothing against other races, but internally they may harbor discrimination.

Hal
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Yes, it's easier to change laws than people's hearts.
 
Now, I don't want to name names, but let's just say I've gotten some reps & PMs which indicate that over the past week or so the ignore buttons are being dusted off.
 
I fully appreciate the desire to eradicate racism and, as someone previously pointed out, we can legislate and pass laws which prohibit certain actions like discrimination in schools, in renting or selling apartments/houses, denying voting rights etc. However, the deeper problem is in how people think.

The election of Pres. Obama shows just how far we, as a nation, have come. But we have a long way to go, and that is going to take time.
As I see it, one of the most pressing matters is the unjust killing of ANY citizen by the police. It is my sincere hope that the current level of heightened public awareness, will reach the point where each and every case of the police killing a citizen will be thoroughly examined by state and federal authorities and, if required, full prosecution of the police involved.

IMO, too many police have gotten off Scot-Free, when they should have been found guilty and sentenced to prison. It is only in this manner that the police will begin to take notice and PERHAPS become a little less trigger happy.
 
It looks like the police officer who shot and killed the Australian woman Justine Damond in a Minnesota laneway will avoid prosecution. Racism doesn't seem to be a factor in this case but it shows how easy it is for prosecutions to be stillborn for lack of evidence.

A Minnesota prosecutor has said he does not yet have enough evidence to charge a Minneapolis police officer who killed an unarmed Australian woman earlier this year, blaming investigators who "haven't done their job".

Hennepin County attorney Mike Freeman is still deciding whether to charge officer Mohamed Noor, who shot Justine Damond in the alley behind her home in July.

Ms Damond had called 911 to report a possible sexual assault.
As she approached the squad car, Mr Noor fired from the passenger seat, across his partner and through the driver's window.

Ms Damond's death sparked protests and led to a police department shake-up, including the resignation of Chief Janee Harteau.

Mr Freeman was captured on video expressing his frustration at a Minneapolis Regional Labor Federation holiday reception on Wednesday night, after he was asked about a charging decision. Union member Sam Sanchez recorded the conversation and posted it on Facebook. It is not clear if Mr Freeman knew he was being recorded.

In the video, Mr Freeman said he does not have enough evidence yet to decide whether to charge Mr Noor, who has declined to speak with investigators.

More here: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-...t-enough-evidence-to-charge-policeman/9261646
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‘I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character’

Wouldn’t that be so cool

Wouldn’t it be cool if it started here
…and we passed it down to our children’s children

Heh, before that can happen, I do believe it must occur in the heart

Pointed comments seem to exterminate those mental approaches

Forgive me for butting in, but I recently learned of some of my folks south of the US border getting assassinated
My son in law’s mother, brother and uncle
A 22 to the side of the head
See a 22 slug tends to rattle around the human skull, making sure life after that is not probable
Federales

I’ve been in that
in another life
Both sides

We, here in the US, are so freaking spoiled it sickens me

Sorry for the off topic
Seemed pertinent at the time

Please continue on with how the government needs to git in our shit and fix things
 
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Traveler said:
I fully appreciate the desire to eradicate racism and, as someone previously pointed out, we can legislate and pass laws which prohibit certain actions like discrimination in schools, in renting or selling apartments/houses, denying voting rights etc. However, the deeper problem is in how people think.

The election of Pres. Obama shows just how far we, as a nation, have come. But we have a long way to go, and that is going to take time.
As I see it, one of the most pressing matters is the unjust killing of ANY citizen by the police. It is my sincere hope that the current level of heightened public awareness, will reach the point where each and every case of the police killing a citizen will be thoroughly examined by state and federal authorities and, if required, full prosecution of the police involved.

IMO, too many police have gotten off Scot-Free, when they should have been found guilty and sentenced to prison. It is only in this manner that the police will begin to take notice and PERHAPS become a little less trigger happy.
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Yeah sure, that's a real sensible approach. Lockup the very people that are trying to protect us from the evil among us. Seems this guy traveler is more concerned with the welfare of the criminal element than he is the law abiding masses,
 
Obama's action set back gains against racism.

My opinion change: ..."IMO, too many (law breakers) have gotten off Scot-Free, when they should have been found guilty and sentenced to prison. It is only in this manner that (law breakers) will begin to take notice and PERHAPS become a little less trigger happy...."
 
We're having a White Christmas here, both inside and outside. :):D:p:excitement::tickled_pink::angel::beguiled::devilish::watermelon::watermelon::watermelon::partytime::yesmaster:
 
Lon said:
The U.S. has only dealt with Racism on a Legal & Legislative Basis but has no control over Racism as practiced by individuals.
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You are right Lon but even the legal system handles racism cases of Blacks differently than those of Whites. There never has been a level playing field. That's one of the reason the frustration continues. To answer you question Fuzzbuddy...no this country hasn't. People skate around the issue, make excuses for racist behavior, some even proclaim Christianity as a basis. As a Black woman, I notice that issues concerning us are not taken seriously or taken far too lightly. I think many are uncomfortable with the subject. Take the case of Black Lives Matter. No one is saying other lives don't matter but the movement gets lambasted by some as if it's some militant movement. All they are saying is that killer cops should not continue to get away with killing innocent, unarmed Blacks. I first became painfully aware of racism when my son was 2...he's 49 now. It used to only be covered in Jet Magazine, a publication geared toward African Americans. When my son was 2, Jet reported about an 8 year old boy out for a stroll with his father was killed because the cop said he "looked like the perp". Seriously!! I've feared for my son's since he was young and now I have grandsons.

There are SO many other issues involving people of color being mistreated, profiled, denied housing, jobs and receiving heavier sentences for lesser offenses, etc. There really are too many incidences to mention here. Way back when, a White storeowner friend warned me when I applied for credit to buy an item that merchants were instructed to code the applications. I forgot what the code was for Black but I don't think it was "obvious". I did get approved..maybe he didn't code mine. I was blessed to grow up in a city where we didn't have racial problems....not even in my school. And according to friend I met on another networking site, who also happened to grow up here but went to a different high school...she never saw it either. She's Italian. My high school was mostly Italians and Jews. There were a few of us Blacks and very few Hispanics. I didn't experience outright racism until my son was a victim of it...blatantly, at least twice. There may be other times he never told me about.
 
The key to fighting racism must be education. Schools must be places of inclusivity where every student is celebrated and given every chance to succeed. No matter how racist the home is, school must provide a better example of civility.

Leadership must also come from the arts community and from government. An apology for past wrongs needs to be delivered, not once but from every institution that has been guilty in the past of abuses against people of colour.

It should be possible to change the situation over the course of one or two generations. Hope lies in the children, not the grandparents.
 
OneEyedDiva said:

You are right Lon but even the legal system handles racism cases of Blacks differently than those of Whites. There never has been a level playing field. That's one of the reason the frustration continues. To answer you question Fuzzbuddy...no this country hasn't. People skate around the issue, make excuses for racist behavior, some even proclaim Christianity as a basis. As a Black woman, I notice that issues concerning us are not taken seriously or taken far too lightly. I think many are uncomfortable with the subject. Take the case of Black Lives Matter. No one is saying other lives don't matter but the movement gets lambasted by some as if it's some militant movement. All they are saying is that killer cops should not continue to get away with killing innocent, unarmed Blacks. I first became painfully aware of racism when my son was 2...he's 49 now. It used to only be covered in Jet Magazine, a publication geared toward African Americans. When my son was 2, Jet reported about an 8 year old boy out for a stroll with his father was killed because the cop said he "looked like the perp". Seriously!! I've feared for my son's since he was young and now I have grandsons.

There are SO many other issues involving people of color being mistreated, profiled, denied housing, jobs and receiving heavier sentences for lesser offenses, etc. There really are too many incidences to mention here. Way back when, a White storeowner friend warned me when I applied for credit to buy an item that merchants were instructed to code the applications. I forgot what the code was for Black but I don't think it was "obvious". I did get approved..maybe he didn't code mine. I was blessed to grow up in a city where we didn't have racial problems....not even in my school. And according to friend I met on another networking site, who also happened to grow up here but went to a different high school...she never saw it either. She's Italian. My high school was mostly Italians and Jews. There were a few of us Blacks and very few Hispanics. I didn't experience outright racism until my son was a victim of it...blatantly, at least twice. There may be other times he never told me about.
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One issue is that not every unarmed Black killed by police that has been claimed as a racist act seemed all that innocent, nor did it seem like a deliberate act of murder by a racist cop. But there are always some Blacks claiming it was and the liberal media seems to take that position as well. It is like there is an active Race Grievance Industry in play that is dead set on making Blacks always the victim even when they are not. Just my point of view. I don't always like or agree with the police but I understand they have a tough and dangerous job. The more difficult people make their jobs the more problems we will have. Like 'em or not you need to respect their authority.
 
I never thought I had racist views. Not me. Until, quite by accident, it came out of me. I wasn't a cross burner, but I was damn close. So here's a test to see if you are a racist. A Black family buys the house across the street. And then another Black family buys a house down the street. What do you feel?
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I never thought I had racist views. Not me. Until, quite by accident, it came out of me. I wasn't a cross burner, but I was damn close. So here's a test to see if you are a racist. A Black family buys the house across the street. And then another Black family buys a house down the street. What do you feel?
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That's not a "test" to see if one is a racist. A black family/families might already own a house or houses in the neighborhood. And who cares how the people across the street feel? A black family buying a house in a mostly white area is not a big deal or even unuaual. This isn't the 1950s.

Racist = the assumption that someone is inferior to you simply because of their race. That's pretty simple. No test is needed.

Elsie said:
They mind their business, I'll mind mine. Easier to become friends that way.
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That also applies to people of the same race.
 
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fuzzybuddy said:
I never thought I had racist views. Not me. Until, quite by accident, it came out of me. I wasn't a cross burner, but I was damn close. So here's a test to see if you are a racist. A Black family buys the house across the street. And then another Black family buys a house down the street. What do you feel?
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When someone moves in next door to me I'm only concerned with their compatibility with me and my boring little routine.
 
Elsie said:
Obama's action set back gains against racism.

My opinion change: ..."IMO, too many (law breakers) have gotten off Scot-Free, when they should have been found guilty and sentenced to prison. It is only in this manner that (law breakers) will begin to take notice and PERHAPS become a little less trigger happy...."
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Exactly how did Obama's actions set back "gains" against racism? :confused:
Oh - never mind - (political).
 

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