I believe you are right. The reason why we haven't heard from our neighbors is that they live at least 4000 light years away. Here is the deal with transportation. Any civilization with enough energy to travel to us would not want anything we could offer. Such a civilization would likely see us as being so primitive and new that we might not survive more than more than 150,000 years. This amount of time is just a blink in terms of the age of the universe. And our individual lives are only about 75 years. We think that we are the ultimate. But, an advanced civilization might not even define us a living beings. This could be true if they were immortal.
Who does your friend think created the other planets?layful:
We have not been an advanced civilization, depending on your definition of advanced for more than, roughly 100,000 years.
Problem is that there is other evidence. Evolution hasn't been at work on just our planet. The whole universe has been evolving. There could easily be civilizations that are a couple of billion years ahead of us. If evolution has a goal of survival, then its ultimate goal would be immortality. We tend to think of ourselves as if we were at the top of some sort of chain. The problem is that we have no idea what "intelligence" is. Stuff like IQ tests are only measuring what they decide is of value as intelligence. It is called a working definition. Anyone could create a working definition and decide left handed people are the most intelligent.
I see texts all the time, it seems, where people make the assumption that we are the most intelligent. Somehow they fail to notice we seem to be killing ourselves with our own waste. Fruit flies will do this if you put them in a jar, with plenty of food and air. What people do not seem to understand is that we, collectively decide what reality is, in any sense you can think of. People fail to understand that our own language can be the most profound enemy we could have.
In math, the only proof that an atom exists is a probability. We cannot see it, but we know it is there. The same holds true for the entire universe. All we do is extrapolate from the small to the large. It is probable that evolution occurs on any planet with, what we think of as life. This is evidence from deduction and is valid evidence from which theories might be developed. You say nothing but us chicken. It has already be theorized that we may be nothing more than a hologram.
Yes, I should have said it in past tense. But the truth of it still remains. We couldn't see an atom. We only knew it as a probability. Actually, the fact that we can visualize an atom now proves my point.
OK, I refuse to accept your conclusion that we are alive. Show me evidence that we are alive that does not come from a working definition.
Sorry, that is not evidence that you are alive. That may be evidence that you feel pain. Just because you are animated does not prove life. Machines are animated, but not alive.
