Do you think the pandemic is winding down?

Sometimes it pays to be a small country at the bottom of the world. New Zealand has had no new cases in 14 days and all restrictions will be lifted by Wednesday. However, they will still have their external borders closed.

Where I live in New South Wales we are slowly easing restrictions because the number of new cases is very low and community transmission even lower. However some states have effectively closed their borders to unrestricted internal travel. Controlling new infections requires a certain amount of quarantining, testing and contact tracing and we now have measures in place to handle any new outbreaks. Despite some initial mistakes our total death toll is low (102) and we haven't had a single confirmed death in two weeks.

IMO it is now time in Australia to start rebuilding the economy and getting people back to work.
 
I see our Prime Minister is in need of a haircut.....Making sure that task is save to go forward with.....or his hairdresser is out of the country.
 
Warrigal said:
IMO it is now time in Australia to start rebuilding the economy and getting people back to work.
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I think you're right - it should be safe to move back to normalcy. The question is how international visitors and tourists will be handled. All countries, particularly those with zero (or near zero) cases, are going to have to balance desperately missed tourist dollars against the possibility/likelihood that COVID-19 will be reintroduced.

Edited to add: I think it's safe for Australia, New Zealand and the other countries who have virtually zero cases to move back to normalcy. I wasn't making a blanket statement that I believe it's safe for the entire world to move back to pre 2020 behaviors.
 
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Noticed one of our restaurants were open, on saturday, i'm sure with precautions.
My X was probably one of the first in line.....he lives in them, morning, noon and supper.
He was getting tired of eggs, opening cans, etc....Oh my, hard life.
 
Trip to the grocery store yesterday. Became quickly annoyed and ticked off. Several customers that were campers, pretty much ignored safety.
Not following directions marked, safe distance......i was at the marked line at the checkout, waiting for my turn at checkout, some of them just thought that was their right to line in front of others in that space, had some cut in front of me, and noticed 2 other checkouts that the same thing happening. I guess some don't care.
If some keep this up.....we may end up at square 1. šŸ˜ 

Churches have not yet opened up to services, or public worship.

We are not over this. Please stay safe and well everyone.
 
Nope. Just offended a neighbor when I said they could no longer visit because I found they do not social distance or wear masks when out. They are in 30s, old enough to know better. I said they were putting me at risk.
I said in future if they came they could sit in my yard while I sat on porch. But then only if they promised to mask up when out
 
In Florida, the numbers are going higher each day. Iā€™m sure more restrictions will be added soon. I wonder if itā€™s because the beaches are overcrowded with, I donā€™t care folks, Iā€™m going to have fun no matter what.

Or, Orange County, Orlando, people are gathering in huge crowds to protest. Most will no masks.....I wonder??
 
Pappy said:
In Florida, the numbers are going higher each day. Iā€™m sure more restrictions will be added soon. I wonder if itā€™s because the beaches are overcrowded with, I donā€™t care folks, Iā€™m going to have fun no matter what.

Or, Orange County, Orlando, people are gathering in huge crowds to protest. Most will no masks.....I wonder??
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I'm in Florida, less than an hour's drive from Orlando. Our numbers here have been really good so far (knock wood), but then, there are a few senior developments here with people who are a little more cautious and/or smarter than the younger folks.

Orlando had a lot of people in their constant protests, and from news reports, only some wore masks. Our closest small town had an organized protest at two locations a couple of weeks ago with many coming in from other parts. There were more people in our downtown than you ever see at the festivals. I think that will open us up to the virus that has, so far, been very light on us.

I also see so few people in masks. We had a washer and dryer delivered from Lowe's today, and only one out of four of the deliverymen had a mask. You'd think they would deliver them together but nope, two different trucks. <growl> Whenever I go thru the Chick-Fil-A drive thru, I'm the only person in a car who puts on her mask when dealing with the person at the window. Today, a few silly people had a community garage sale. I know it's outside, but from what I could see, less than half of the visitors had on masks. It makes me want to scream.

And let's not forget, as a tourist destination, we still get tons of visitors from other states.
 
Red Cinders said:
I'm in Florida, less than an hour's drive from Orlando. Our numbers here have been really good so far (knock wood), but then, there are a few senior developments here with people who are a little more cautious and/or smarter than the younger folks.

Orlando had a lot of people in their constant protests, and from news reports, only some wore masks. Our closest small town had an organized protest at two locations a couple of weeks ago with many coming in from other parts. There were more people in our downtown than you ever see at the festivals. I think that will open us up to the virus that has, so far, been very light on us.

I also see so few people in masks. We had a washer and dryer delivered from Lowe's today, and only one out of four of the deliverymen had a mask. You'd think they would deliver them together but nope, two different trucks. <growl> Whenever I go thru the Chick-Fil-A drive thru, I'm the only person in a car who puts on her mask when dealing with the person at the window. Today, a few silly people had a community garage sale. I know it's outside, but from what I could see, less than half of the visitors had on masks. It makes me want to scream.

And let's not forget, as a tourist destination, we still get tons of visitors from other states.
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Who then go home and re-introduce. Florida added 4,000 NEW cases two days ago. We are still in our first wave.
 
Gennie, what is interesting is that the median age of new cases in Florida has decreased dramatically over the past few weeks. Yesterday it was announced that in Orange County the average age of new cases is 29 and the vast majority are asymptomatic. There seems to be a lot of covid spreading going on among those in their 20's and 30's. It appears as if many people, especially the younger ones, are throwing caution to the wind and acting as if the pandemic is over.
 
Red Cinders said:
Gennie, what is interesting is that the median age of new cases in Florida has decreased dramatically over the past few weeks. Yesterday it was announced that in Orange County the average age of new cases is 29 and the vast majority are asymptomatic. There seems to be a lot of covid spreading going on among those in their 20's and 30's. It appears as if many people, especially the younger ones, are throwing caution to the wind and acting as if the pandemic is over.
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I'm not even sure it is peaked yet here. I think we are now seeing results of Memorial Day party. Some of the hotter spots are around college areas.
 
It will never wind down until there is a vaccine, not while there are idiots attending mass rallies, crowded venues such as restaurants, etc., sporting events, etc. without wearing masks. They don't know, or don't care, that even though they could be carrying the virus without symptoms, they could be making someone else terribly ill or even killing them. It did start to wind down in some places, but watch for the resurgence.

Without mass cooperation or enforcement, the only solution will be a vaccine.
 
MickaC said:
I think it's far from being over. I've noticed in the last few days, people are starting to group, with no safe distance. Retails that are open continue to practice safety. Now, there's the kids, mostly young teens, i know it must be hard without contact with their friends, but.......my next door neighbour's place has turned into grand central station with boys, no distance, in and out of the house, showing no safety at all, she is a daycare worker, had gone back to work a week ago, so far kids of essential workers are only allowed to use the daycare right now, her 4 year old is not allowed to attend right now, so with all the traffic of the teens at her house, how safe is it for the daycare from her attending work. Scarey.
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My brother in law who lives in South Florida, one of the really "hot spots" in the US told us yesterday that he and his family refuse to wear masks because this is all just a hoax. You can't fix stupid.
 
Things were looking good in Australia but there has been a bit of a spike in one of the larger states. In a couple of hot spots there the N value is well over 1 which is an indicator that new infections could be becoming hyperbolic, i.e. out of control.
 
No, I don't think so with the cases still on the rise and new areas popping up with a lot of new cases.
 

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