Do you want to live in a "seniors" only area?

Yes, I already live in 55+ community. If I were in the units nearby I’d go out of my mind dealing with the screaming, swearing, and garbage that is strewn about; this is just from the kids.
The cost of property tends to impact on who can afford to live where here in the UK. First time buyers need rich parents or winning lottery tickets to live among those that have reached the financial status required for desirable homes.
 

Around here, there are some condos, usually the "apartment"-style kind, that everyone who owns one is on the HOA board so you don't run into that problem of a terrible HOA president or a handful of terrible board members doing stuff you disagree with; since you're automatically on the board, you have a little more control. And when it comes to HOA fees, that's certainly a financial consideration, but around here the most expensive HOA fees I know of are only a little more than half of the rent for a 1-bedroom apartment in a half-way decent area.
I think you hit it right on the head- HOAs. Seniors without kids can be just as poor neighbors as families with kids. But an HOA can make your life a living hell. My ex lived in one. The old biddy squad would ride around posting "no no" notes all over the doors. One of the "no no"s was a note saying her cat was seen looking out the window. Horrors!!!!!
She got a $75 fine for starting to mow the grass @ 11:45 AM on a Sunday, when the regs said you had to wait till noon. She got a 1 inch thick print out of the rules each year with 100s of rules. What got me was which one of her neighbors ratted her out???? I found that sooner or later the HOA boards get petty, personal, and get carried away with rules.
 
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San Jose urban area is about the most expensive real estate in the country. All senior living rental apartments are very expensive. So never even consider looking for, much less wondering about.
 
Holly, I've lived in a 55 plus active retirement community for 16 years, and love it. It's not perfect, of course. No place is. I think most of this guy's dire warnings were facile nonsense, with a tiny sprinkling of truth for some communities, I guess.

Listing problems such as busybody neighbors, community rules and restrictions, the fact that some neighbors may be cliquei-ish or catty, and the inflation of HOA costs (along with inflation in everything else, no matter where you live) is just a facile way of appearing to tell us something we do not already know. But most people in our age bracket already know those things, and they apply wherever we live.

In my own real life experience, we have a normal variety of personality types, the same as everywhere. Some people are saintly, some are brilliant, some are dumb, and some are nuts. Some are nice, some aren't. People don't magically change just because they've lived a certain number of years. This building is a friendly group with umpteen activities for those who want to be friendly.

There is a preponderance of moderate liberalism, and politics is important, especially in the current time. So political extremism is something that probably does factor in, in some communities and for some people. But wouldn't that be true if you are just moving to a new area, regardless of the age of the residents? Most of us like to live among similarly minded people.

We do have children and young adults visiting here, all the time. Not everybody is "old." And people in their 50's are not old, anyway.

Size of pets allowed can be an important restriction. When we moved here, we had to give our golden retriever (Sunny) away to a friend who kindly adopted her. The size limit for dogs was about 30 pounds or less, and Sunny was about 70 pounds! She would have hated it here anyway; apartment living is not for active retrievers who love dashing around the woods. And I think there is a limit of one dog or cat, not sure about that.

In general, anyone can say the bottle is half full or half empty. I had one friend who had been generally depressed and complaining a lot, whom I had known since we were in our 30's. She was always like that. She and her husband moved here when they got older, and predictably, they never liked it here very much. They ended up moving out of state to live with a daughter. I think those who engage in all these complaints have probably been complainers all their lives.

So, while this guy raised mainly valid points, they are pretty much on the level of "Be careful crossing the street."
 
I feel alignment with this sentiment.

However I can imagine some benefits of a more closed old farts' community as well.

I guess I'd be more worried about the many potential negatives of neighbors so strongly attracted by isolation from greater society. There are already enough busybodies with too much time on their hands walking Cujo up and down barely controlled and sneering disapprovingly at the cut of my lawn.
I lived in a 55+ condo for about 4 years and there is no such thing as people being 'attracted by isolation'. There was a constant involvement with one another, parties in the club house, meet and greets, card games, line dancing..... all very nice people who weren't ready to cash out, still involved with life. They had grandkids dropping in periodically but those kids went home, didn't have toys all over the place and their parents were mindful of the noise but didn't hammer them into silence either.

The reason most people move into a seniors building or community is because they don't want to deal with loud parties going on for hours after midnight, mowing lawns, trimming trees, etc.

Sure you're always going to get a grumpy here or there but you can have that in a mixed neighbourhood. There's a reason why the stereotypical 'get off my lawn' old crank became a stereotype.
 
@Sunny ...I don't know why you're telling ME this... I've already posted I have a home on an Over 50's gated community....I know all the types who live there.. and some are just like this guy describes
 
We have young couples, young couples with 1 or 2 children & elderly. 2 of the Elderly guys hide In their homes but leave everyday for fast foods. They bring them back home and go inside never to come out again until the following mid-day routine again. One recently got an Avalanche and the other an old red Ford Car. Very noisy.

The other neighbor Parties all the time, has an above ground pool. We go to the kids places a lot or our lake home. Most noise we make is with the lawn tractor.

Kids here are mostly in their phones when they pass, same with adults. The young walk their kids in strollers or with bikes. Adults are usually the ones riding mountain bikes over to the park and trail across the highway. Many play games, eat lunches or sit for hours around the Lake.

We shopped for a Condo years ago but didn't find an end unit with yard and parking. No middle Condo please. A 2 condo unit is being built
across the street but the Children already have filled it after the guy died that owned that acreage, most likely more to come on it.
 
@Sunny ...I don't know why you're telling ME this... I've already posted I have a home on an Over 50's gated community....I know all the types who live there.. and some are just like this guy describes
I know these weren't your ideas, or written by you, Holly, I just addressed it to you because you posted the guy's 10 rules. Of course that doesn't mean you necessarily agree with them! 😁
 
Way long ago, we were traveling around BC and somehow we ended up in a condo for over 55 for a night or two. I guess now you would call them Air B & B. Anyways a hornet or something got into our condo about midnight, so we're chasing around trying to get the thing out of our suite. And we get a phone call from management to please keep it down. We moved to another condo/hotel the next day. Nope, not moving into a Seniors complex.
 
One day definitely. When I get very aged and if alone, I would feel safest in a seniors only protected and quiet area. For me peace, security and quiet are vital.
Yes but it's not always secure nor is it always quiet.

I was burgled in our Gated community in Spain..well attempted burglary, fortunately for me I was home and unfortunately for him, I saw him just about to enter my second floor bedroom through the French doors.. and I pushed him off the balcony....even the Policia Nacional.. couldn't figure out how he got into my property..they called him Spider man... but he did manage, and fortunately I walked in on him seconds before he took my handbag off the dresser... and ran at him and shoved him off.. he fell 20 feet...

Also as our gated community is in Spain.. many people who own a property don't live there all year around and instead they rent it out to holidaymakers for a week or 2 at a time. of course they think in a holiday camp and despite rules to the contrary , they make as much noise as they like...
 
Yes. That's why I'm looking for a mobile in a 55+ park. After having harassing neighbors in that house I bought. I think it's one of the reasons I never bought a condo. I had fear of the neighbors.
I'd been living in a single wide in a senior mobile park in Orange, CA for 5 years until I bought a 3+2+full basement on half acre property here, in the middle of Kansas, 2.5 years ago and moved. I had other family (brother + wife, and son + spouse) from CA who had moved not long before. I saw the house listed online, got pre-approved for a mortgage (on strictly social security income), had my son tour the house while videoing me in, I liked what I saw, made it offer, it was accepted and boom, done. I sold my mobile home two days later. This all happened within 3 days!

I flew out for close of escrow, and saw my house for the first time in person. I packed, used a moving container service, and also had my car shipped. It's been one of the best decisions of my life. I tend to be a spontaneous, adventure-led person, and needed one more big adventure in my life. I love the wide open spaces, fewer people, lower cost of living, new places to explore. It was a great decision!

One more note: the $30k I got for selling my mobile was down payment on my house, and my mortgage is $400 less than what my space rent had been, which was continually increasing. I was approved for a mortgage based solely on social security income.
 
I think you hit it right on the head- HOAs. Seniors without kids can be just as poor neighbors as families with kids. But an HOA can make your life a living hell. My ex lived in one. The old biddy squad would ride around posting "no no" notes all over the doors. One of the "no no"s was a note saying her cat was seen looking out the window. Horrors!!!!!
She got a $75 fine for starting to mow the grass @ 11:45 AM on a Sunday, when the regs said you had to wait till noon. She got a 1 inch thick print out of the rules each year with 100s of rules. What got me was which one of her neighbors ratted her out???? I found that sooner or later the HOA boards get petty, personal, and get carried away with rules.
There's no way I would ever live under an HOA ever again. At the senior mobile park I was in, they continually denied my choice of light aqua paint color for the minimal amount of trim, even though they couldn't provide samples of approved colors. It was clearly personal preference of the management.
 
@SueBee Seems it worked out for you but I don't have that kind of luck. I have no one to help me. I'm alone with the burden of the elderly stepfather. I can't really move. I also feed a feral colony that would not be taken care of well if I didn't maintain them.
 
My MIL lived in a really crummy apartment with high rent and a lonnnng flight of stairs that she couldn't navigate. We spent a lot of time trying to convince her to move to senior housing where the rent was low, utilities included, no stairs, nice grounds, community rooms, free on-site laundry, library, lots of activities if you were interested, even had a salon for haircuts. She finally moved, but only after years of telling us that she didn't want to live "around all those old people." She was well into her 80s!
 
I'm now in my 80s and still living in the same cottage that we moved into in 1966. I have good neighbours and can see children walking to school from my front window. The back garden is pleasant and holds many memories.

I plan to stay here until the day arrives when I need to enter a nursing home.
 
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I'm now in my 80s and still living in the same cottage that we moved into in 1966. I have good neighbours and can see children walking to school from my front window. The back garden is pleasant and hold many memories.

I plan to stay here until the day arrives when I need to enter a nursing home.
That sounds lovely, Warrigal; I'd love to live in a place like that.
 
I'm in my 2nd 55+ (gated) community now, but will be moving into an "independent living" facility soon, then, sooner or later, into "assisted living" in the same facility. Not looking forward to it, but....

I've lost track of how many HOA communities I've lived in, and never had a problem with any of them.
 
Yes but it's not always secure nor is it always quiet.

I was burgled in our Gated community in Spain..well attempted burglary, fortunately for me I was home and unfortunately for him, I saw him just about to enter my second floor bedroom through the French doors.. and I pushed him off the balcony....even the Policia Nacional.. couldn't figure out how he got into my property..they called him Spider man... but he did manage, and fortunately I walked in on him seconds before he took my handbag off the dresser... and ran at him and shoved him off.. he fell 20 feet...

Also as our gated community is in Spain.. many people who own a property don't live there all year around and instead they rent it out to holidaymakers for a week or 2 at a time. of course they think in a holiday camp and despite rules to the contrary , they make as much noise as they like...
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well..actually you jest... but I've always had strong upper strength.. lots of swimming, so powerful shoulders. but in reality I was absolutely furious, and that's probably what took over my brain. It was also about 12 years ago.. so younger as well...

It wasn't until afterwards that I realised he might have died, but I didn't have time to think ..it was him or me is how I saw it...... as it was we discovered that he'd been quite seriously injured, a broken leg among it... and his blood was splattered on the stairs leading to my terrace where he fell..
 
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