Dr Seuss books to stop publishing

Here is a PRIME example of racism/racist view. We all remember the Landmark Supreme Court decision of the interracial marriage case of Loving v. Virginia in 1967 where they struck down the VA law. Here is an excerpt from the VA trial Judge's decision upholding the miscegenation law.

"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."
 

I feel bad. Growing up I never thought about stuff that could be racist as I didn't know what being racist was. So now that I am older and understand it better; it is like I need to change my whole way of thinking so I am not. I do think books and siblings and parents and relatives were racist and this is reflected on me and my siblings when we were growing up.

Bear with me.

Does this mean that those who don't think Dr Seuss's books should be banned (because of the artwork) mean that they are racist? I am not trying to offend anyone but please correct me if I am wrong.
 
I'm in favor of ditching books aimed at young children if they have racist overtones or promote hurtful stereotypes.
Presumably Seuss's publisher considered revamping some of the illustrations and opted against it.
 

I think we are forgetting who banned these books. This was done by Dr Seuss Enterprises themselves…apparently they have been thinking about it for years. As a professional in the field of psychology, I feel they have done the right thing.

Research shows that even at the age of three, children begin to form racial biases through the actions of family members and propaganda through books. By the age of seven, those biases become fixed.

The world is hopefully changing into a more accepting place. Children need to see people who look like them, shown in a positive light, not in a deprecating way.

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Enid Blyton's 'Noddy' books were taken out of print because of Golly the Golliwog
I love Dr Seuss 'Green Eggs And Ham' and 'The Cat In The Hat'
These are all stories for the young or the young at heart and should be kept as their writers intended
All this nonsense and all the while kids are playing video games which make these children's books very tame indeed
 
debrakay said:
What a confused, mixed-up, awful world we live in when it's okay for young children to be reading books and being taught about transgenderism, lesbianism, homosexuality and other sexual/genders issues but it is not okay to have a Dr. Seuss book because of the cartoon pictures?
LGBT Activists Promote 'Trans Reading Day' in Public Schools (dailysignal.com)
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I disagree with you most emphatically. In my mind, we do not live in a mixed up world. We are for the first time in history learning to live in a world that accepts people for who they are.
 
It all comes down to what kind of world we want to live in. If we want peace, we have to strive for equality and value diversity. We can't change people when they can't be anything other than who they are. We can't expect people to pay taxes without giving them full rights.

In the Quaker religion, everyone is believed to be equal. Regardless of gender, age, race, nationality, religion, or sexual preference. So, it can be taught. Just as racism and bigotry can be taught.
 
Along the same lines, I'm sad they took the image of Aunt Jemima of the pancake & pancake syrup products. I get it that this image goes back to the days of slavery but for the love of God, did anyone here ever connect that image with white dominance and slavery? I've been looking at that smiling black lady's face for decades and the only thing it's ever evoked in me is the feeling of a meal made with love at home from quality ingredients. I for one will miss her image on that box of pancake mix.
Same thing with this Dr. Seuss nonsense. Good Lord! These panels of 'People With Nothing Better To Do' need to loosen their sphincters a little.
 
StarSong said:
I'm in favor of ditching books aimed at young children if they have racist overtones or promote hurtful stereotypes.
Presumably Seuss's publisher considered revamping some of the illustrations and opted against it.
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What a shame. I wonder why the publishers made that decision. So the world should be deprived of these hilarious poems (many of them making a good moral point) because of a few offensive illustrations considered funny nearly a century ago? Why not just redo the art work?

What will probably happen is that the books will become collectors' items, and gain in value.

He's also being accused of antisemitism. Well, here is one of his political cartoons. The only reference to antisemitism I've been able to find so far is that fact that some of the Sneetches have stars on their bellies, which somebody thinks represent Mogen Davids (Jewish stars), and others don't, and they fight a war over it. Pretty feeble attempt to prove antisemitism, if that's all there is. (P.S. The Sneetch stars have 5 points. A Mogen David has 6.)

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Here I go being picky again, @Sunny. Forgive me in advance, please!
Magen David, Shield of David, is the Star and Mogen David is that wine.

Schtickler, that's me. :rolleyes:
 
Isn't the underlying principal of this country to accept all peoples of all races? So why now do certain people declare is it unconstitutional to acknowledge we don't all look alike?
 
fmdog44 said:
Hitler, Mao and Stalin operated under the same principal. Burn all old television programs that did not include minorities. Burn all novels that did not include minorities. Strip all citizens of the diplomas earned if they attended schools that were all white. DO NOT ban rap music that includes words of murder, rape and drugs.
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What's next , Kristallnacht ?
 
First of all, these are not among Dr. Suess's finest or most popular works. Nevertheless, I'm surprised that the publisher didn't get editing permission from the Seuss family to newly illustrate offensive drawings.

I did some sleuthing and found an online PDF copy of "If I Ran the Zoo" and copied this image. All other depictions of humans in the book (at least as far as I read) were straightforward and very Seuss-like (picture the children in "Cat in the Hat"). You can see that the Africans are indeed characterized in an unflattering manner.

Presumably the other books have drawing depicting equally detestable racial stereotypes.

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Acknowledging respect for all people doesn't insult or harm you in any way. But, it lifts up those that you respect and puts more respect for you in their hearts. I will never understand those who choose to live with hatred in their hearts just because everyone isn't white, or straight, or Christian. Hate eats at the soul.
 
It's very strange these days that when a person disagrees with another person the word "hate" ends up in the conversation. Of course this also leads to the words racism, bias, narrowmindedness, inequality, etc. of which no unification will happen when the name calling begins. Anyone who automatically states that another person is filled with hate over a comment that they disagree with, need to take a long look at themselves first as to where the hate is actually festering.

Young children in should never be subjected to and forced to read and hear about books regarding sex choices and sexuality. This whole issue of censorship of the Dr. Seuss books came from the supposed adults, at the detriment of the children, who enjoyed the books without ever thinking of anything racist in them, because young children are not racists. The adults are.
 
fmdog44 said:
Isn't the underlying principal of this country to accept all peoples of all races? So why now do certain people declare is it unconstitutional to acknowledge we don't all look alike?
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I recently read that God created one race which is the human race. Men are the ones who then divided the human race into color categories and of course when men get their hands on things much comes to ruin.
 
IMO poor old Dr. Suess was a man of his time that did more good than bad.

I can understand quietly dropping some of his content that is no longer relevant/appropriate but I can't understand the need to vilify his work and make it a divisive headline news story.

Sometimes I honestly believe that there are foreign and domestic mischief makers behind the scenes dredging up these things in an effort to keep the American people divided along racial lines.
 
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Dana said:
I disagree with you most emphatically. In my mind, we do not live in a mixed up world. We are for the first time in history learning to live in a world that accepts people for who they are.
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Sex and sexuality issues have no place in front of the eyes and into the ears of young children in their schools. Adult acceptances should not be placed on the young in the classrooms, ever. I am happy for you that your world is perfect. I see the world as an evil place unfortunately getting worse by the day. I have hope that more of the lost souls will be saved before this world is over.
Mark 4:23 - If anyone has ears to hear, let them hear."
 
debrakay said:
What a confused, mixed-up, awful world we live in when it's okay for young children to be reading books and being taught about transgenderism, lesbianism, homosexuality and other sexual/genders issues but it is not okay to have a Dr. Seuss book because of the cartoon pictures?
LGBT Activists Promote 'Trans Reading Day' in Public Schools (dailysignal.com)
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Debra, The Daily Signal is a right-wing publication of The Heritage Foundation. It's political.

And the emphasis on "God created," etc. is offensive to many of us who do not share your religious beliefs. Some of us believe in evolution.

And even people who are not particularly supporters of the transgender movement are not necessarily Christian conservatives. Why conflate the two? Must everything on earth be polarized into two ways of thinking? Sometimes it's more complicated than that.

And I really don't see what this subject has to do with Dr. Seuss and his possibly racist illustrations, anyway. Why the abrupt change of subject?
 

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