Dr Seuss books to stop publishing

debrakay said:
because young children are not racists. The adults are.
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Young children learn racism and hatred from adults. Images like the one I copied (above) from Seuss's book have no place in children's literature, regardless how revered the author may have been, because they teach children how to look at the world.

Why would I give my grandchildren a book that contains images that deeply offends others or casts certain races in a terrible light? What a spectacularly unloving act that would be.


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And why should black kids be victimized and humiliated with these old caricatures? Would anyone here want to be pictured as ignorant, with a bone through your nose and acting "like a savage." That is a horrible burden to place on a black kid, made to feel bad about themselves.

ENOUGH of that! ENOUGH of racial stereotyping black children!
 

I'm actually kind of surprised they didn't stop publishing those books decades ago. Did it just occur to them that this might be offensive to some people?
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I remember watching cartoons back in the '70s like Bugs Bunny that depicted Africans like this, and they also had stereotypical Japanese, Arabs, Native Americans... I don't think they should be banned, but any publisher with even a modicum of integrity should refuse to publish them for anything other than historical value.
 
Pepper said:
And why should black kids be victimized and humiliated with these old caricatures? Would anyone here want to be pictured as ignorant, with a bone through your nose and acting "like a savage." That is a horrible burden to place on a black kid, made to feel bad about themselves.

ENOUGH of that! ENOUGH of racial stereotyping black children!
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Children should never be stereotyped, victimized or humiliated for the color or their skin or family traditions. What is your response to the white children of today being stereotyped, victimized and humiliated for being white skinned and/or Christian? The current "Stop being so white" campaign and the "Cancel Culture" campaign. I am not trying to be confrontational but looking for honest answers. When is it enough for one group of people and not enough for another group of people? When do we stop blaming and start fixing what is broken?
 
So if you're born white, just throw in the towel? Abuse is abuse - it's not bound by color, race, sex, etc.
 
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Gardenlover said:
So if you born white, just throw in the towel? Abuse is abuse.
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I thought you were misunderstanding, and now I'm sure. Unfortunately, I'm in the midst of something, and must ring off for awhile.

No one need throw in the towel unless it's their decision to do so. 'Night.
 
Pepper said:
I thought you were misunderstanding, and now I'm sure. Unfortunately, I'm in the midst of something, and must ring off for awhile.

No one need throw in the towel unless it's their decision to do so. 'Night.
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Equal treatment of all people.
 
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I wonder if this analogy applies. Our local football team was known as the Washington Redskins for years. Apparently, some people, maybe Native Americans, maybe not, were offended. (I personally never realized until then that the term "Redskin" was offensive.) The controversy went on for years, and finally they changed the name, to The Washington Football Team.

My point is, they didn;t throw out the entire team. They just changed the part that was offensive. So, why not just change the illustrations and be done with it? I think the main value of Dr. Seuss's books are in the story lines and the funny rhyming writing style. As far as I know, there is nothing offensive in those things. So why not just leave them, let future generations of kids enjoy them, and get rid of those awful pictures?
 
debrakay said:
Sex and sexuality issues have no place in front of the eyes and into the ears of young children in their schools. Adult acceptances should not be placed on the young in the classrooms, ever. I am happy for you that your world is perfect. I see the world as an evil place unfortunately getting worse by the day. I have hope that more of the lost souls will be saved before this world is over.
Mark 4:23 - If anyone has ears to hear, let them hear."
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If parents do not teach their children about sex and sexuality, then they will learn about it from somewhere else in a detrimental way. I see school as a good place to take up the slack when parents fail to do their job.. Parents have a choice not to send their children to any school that teaches them how to navigate life but this to me is paramount to mental child abuse.

I am sorry you see the world as “an evil place” … my world like everyone else’s is not “perfect” as you suggest, but I am grateful I have the capacity to accept changes in society, the insight to know that nothing remains the same and to be intellectually endowed to deal with these changes.

If you are going to quote from the Bible, please also contemplate these verses:

Romans 2:11

For God shows no partiality.

Luke 6:37

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

Matthew 10:40

“Whoever receives you receives me, and whoever receives me receives him who sent me.
 
peramangkelder said:
Enid Blyton's 'Noddy' books were taken out of print because of Golly the Golliwog
I love Dr Seuss 'Green Eggs And Ham' and 'The Cat In The Hat'
These are all stories for the young or the young at heart and should be kept as their writers intended
All this nonsense and all the while kids are playing video games which make these children's books very tame indeed
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I strongly disagree. Small children lack the capacity to make informed decisions around race. They can internalize prejudice without even realizing it.
 
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Dana said:
If parents do not teach their children about sex and sexuality, then they will learn about it from somewhere else in a detrimental way. I see school as a good place to take up the slack when parents fail to do their job.. Parents have a choice not to send their children to any school that teaches them how to navigate life but this to me is paramount to mental child abuse.

I am sorry you see the world as “an evil place” … my world like everyone else’s is not “perfect” as you suggest, but I am grateful I have the capacity to accept changes in society, the insight to know that nothing remains the same and to be intellectually endowed to deal with these changes.

If you are going to quote from the Bible, please also contemplate these verses:

Romans 2:11

For God shows no partiality.

Luke 6:37

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

Matthew 10:40

“Whoever receives you receives me, and whoever receives me receives him who sent me.
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QFT.
 
StarSong said:
99.99999% (perhaps more) of White Americans have no idea what it is like to be stereotyped, victimized or humiliated for their race.
Gimme a break.

We were born on 3rd base with a strong lead for home and brag that we hit a standup triple.
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99.999999% really?
Sure people of color have been/are stereotyped, victimized, etc.

But to say that others have not been stereotyped, victimized, etc. is not accurate.

Italians, Irish, Jews, have all experienced that in the past. The Italians were treated like trash in the mid 1800's -mid 1900's
Stereo types prevail today.
My wife will not allow HBO in our house because they ran "The Sopranos".
Oh I forgot....that's not a stereo type, right?
 
J.B Books said:
99.999999% really?
Sure people of color have been/are stereotyped, victimized, etc.

But to say that others have not been stereotyped, victimized, etc. is not accurate.

Italians, Irish, Jews, have all experienced that in the past. The Italians were treated like trash in the mid 1800's -mid 1900's
Stereo types prevail today.
My wife will not allow HBO in our house because they ran "The Sopranos".
Oh I forgot....that's not a stereo type, right?
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You're correct, it was an exaggeration. I will correct my statement. Virtually all White Christian Americans younger than 90 have not experienced ugly stereotyping and racism on the order of what Blacks, Hispanics, Middle Easterners, Native Americans, Asians, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, and other Non-White, non-Christians have gone through. Particularly not in the last 60 years.

My (Italian) father was subject to bigotry and job discrimination pre WWII, but it disappeared almost completely by the early 1950s. I never personally felt the sting of that bigotry.

p.s. I watched The Sopranos and found it hilarious. When I saw that the name of Tony's boat was "Stugots", I nearly wet my pants because I was laughing so hard. So many insider jokes.
 
StarSong said:
You're correct, it was an exaggeration. I will correct my statement. Virtually all White Christian Americans younger than 90 have not experienced ugly stereotyping and racism on the order of what Blacks, Hispanics, Middle Easterners, Native Americans, Asians, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, and other Non-White, non-Christians have gone through. Particularly not in the last 60 years.

My (Italian) father was subject to bigotry and job discrimination pre WWII, but it disappeared almost completely by the early 1950s. I never personally felt the sting of that bigotry.

p.s. I watched The Sopranos and found it hilarious. When I saw that the name of Tony's boat was "Stugots", I nearly wet my pants because I was laughing so hard. So many insider jokes.
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OK

So now you were admittingly laughing at a cultural/ethnic stereotype because you were OK with that.

So what I need to know from you now is, what ethnic stereotypes or OK and which ones are not.
 
J.B Books said:
OK

So now you were admittingly laughing at a cultural/ethnic stereotype because you were OK with that.

So what I need to know from you now is, what ethnic stereotypes or OK and which ones are not.
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I laughed at the many "in jokes" in The Sopranos that were directed at Italian Americans or people who closely associated with them.

Italian Americans are NOT an ethnic group suffering the brunt of racism, bigotry, or ugly stereotyping. Please stop reaching for something that isn't there.
 
One "in" joke that I always laughed at in The Sopranos was Tony's car horn or the doorbell, I forget which, that played the tune from The Godfather. I don't have a drop of Italian blood, but that always cracked me up. I don't remember anything in that show that was prejudiced against Italians. If it was critical of anything, it was gangsters. And it was humorously critical a lot of the time. The "bad guys" in that show were nowhere near as evil as the drug cartel in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul,
 
I read a lot of Dr. Seuss when I had my kids. They never killed, murdered nor rapped anyone. Neither did I. The crazy politically correct have nothing else do do. Why is the young generation so afraid. Perhaps its their music or perhaps those crazy movies they watch all day on the not so smartphone? Banning good books for kids is just a bunch of BS. Time to "Get A Life."
 
StarSong said:
I laughed at the many "in jokes" in The Sopranos that were directed at Italian Americans or people who closely associated with them.

Italian Americans are NOT an ethnic group suffering the brunt of racism, bigotry, or ugly stereotyping. Please stop reaching for something that isn't there.
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The point I was trying to make is that stereo types are everywhere and we now have the PC police telling us what is acceptable and what is not based on their interpretation. And I beg to differ about your Italian American comment. It may be any ethnic group for that matter, at one time and still sometimes now, they are victims of stereo typing. It's OK to have stereo type on this group but not that group. It's time for people to lighten up and not look for ways to be insulted and it's also time for people to know what hurts.
 
Packerjohn said:
I read a lot of Dr. Seuss when I had my kids. They never killed, murdered nor rapped anyone. Neither did I. The crazy politically correct have nothing else do do. Why is the young generation so afraid. Perhaps its their music or perhaps those crazy movies they watch all day on the not so smartphone? Banning good books for kids is just a bunch of BS. Time to "Get A Life."
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So imagine a world that has Cardi. B's W.A.P as song of the year .( Please do a search for the lyrics as I cannot print them here)
And Dr. Seuss is inappropriate.
My. Potato head is offensive.
Disney slaps a content warning on the Muppet show..
 

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