Elon Musk buying Twitter exposes the great divide

It disturbs me not at all what Elon Musk does with his money or how his personality really is. What does disturb me, is reading the many disgusting comments about a man on here not known to one personally? He, of course, is not alone in this category, and the shallow minded remarks bolster my original reasons for having left this site several years ago in the first place.

So many of you are concerned with hate speech on Twitter? Start with the beginning of this thread and read each post, then tell me about hate speech.
 

Six months ago I closed my twitter account (my husband did not close his). I am restarting it now because I feel it is better to know what hate is out there instead of sweeping it under the proverbial carpet.
 
Paco Dennis said:
Man what a lopsided comment. Maybe some people "hate" Musk, but that is NOT THE ISSUE! Hate one side...hate the other side, who will be the power masters. Really. This isn't about personalities, or whether people are for free speech. Like some people would rather be told what not to say. If it is misinformation, the likes of which has never been as far reaching as it is now, you would prefer a mass media giant that hosts out right lies...of which the noose of justice is quickly bringing to the courts. Then we will all see who has the clothes on.
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Huh?
 

CarolfromTX said:
Funny how those who claim Twitter will now be the home of hate speech are the same ones calling names and saying hateful things.
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Hush. We're not supposed to notice that. :)

I have noticed this same thing on both sides of the political spectrum these days. Accuse the other guy of what you yourself are doing. I think the old fashioned name for it is hypocrisy.
 
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Gaer said:
@Brookswood,
Did you delete your great post? Why? I was just going to tell you how wonderful it was.
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You mean the one where I mentioned SpaceX has taken most of the commercial launches away from the higher cost outfits? And where I mentioned that Boeing got one billion dollars more than SpaceX to develop a similar spacecraft, yet while SpaceX has put at least 4 crews into orbit, Boeing has yet to launch a successful manned test of their Starliner? Or where I mentioned that Tesla dominates the EV market and is probably the only EV most people would want to take on a cross country road trip due to its range and network of charging stations?

Yes, I deleted it. Not everybody can handle the truth. :cautious:

By the way I think Mr. Musk'decision not to restore those who have been banned from Twitter until they can set some standards for doing so is a good decision. I also think charging $8 a month to get verified is smart. Of course, Cheapskates like me would never pay it. But, I don't post to twitter anyway. And I find myself spending very little time or Twitter, Facebook and other social media. Social media should never be confused with reality.
 
Brookswood said:
You mean the one where I mentioned SpaceX has taken most of the commercial launches away from the higher cost outfits? And where I mentioned that Boeing got one billion dollars more than SpaceX to develop a similar spacecraft, yet while SpaceX has put at least 4 crews into orbit, Boeing has yet to launch a successful manned test of their Starliner? Or where I mentioned that Tesla dominates the EV market and is probably the only EV most people would want to take on a cross country road trip due to its range and network of charging stations?

Yes, I deleted it. Not everybody can handle the truth. :cautious:

By the way I think Mr. Musk'decision not to restore those who have been banned from Twitter until they can set some standards for doing so is a good decision. I also think charging $8 a month to get verified is smart. Of course, Cheapskates like me would never pay it. But, I don't post to twitter anyway. And I find myself spending very little time or Twitter, Facebook and other social media. Social media should never be confused with reality.
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Yes! Thank you! I don't belong to Twitter either but I'm so glad Elon is helping to restore free speech.
Men like you (of intelligence and foresight) need to speak out! Thanks!
 
I just saw this: "Elon Musk paid less than $70,000 in federal income taxes between 2015 and 2017, and he did not pay anything in 2018, according to recent reports. He did pay his taxes in 2016 by exercising more than $1 billion in stock options. He lives off loans made from his stock options, meaning he doesn’t take a salary from his company."

This is how it should be. The rich get richer and the poor have nothing. It's called "the law of the jungle."

Finally, its' also true that we all get very sick in time and we ALL DIE!

Elon Musk, the wealthiest person on earth with a net worth of 251 billion dollars is NOT exempt from suffering and dying just like the rest of us.
 
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Brookswood said:
You mean the one where I mentioned SpaceX has taken most of the commercial launches away from the higher cost outfits? And where I mentioned that Boeing got one billion dollars more than SpaceX to develop a similar spacecraft, yet while SpaceX has put at least 4 crews into orbit, Boeing has yet to launch a successful manned test of their Starliner? Or where I mentioned that Tesla dominates the EV market and is probably the only EV most people would want to take on a cross country road trip due to its range and network of charging stations?

Yes, I deleted it. Not everybody can handle the truth. :cautious:

By the way I think Mr. Musk'decision not to restore those who have been banned from Twitter until they can set some standards for doing so is a good decision. I also think charging $8 a month to get verified is smart. Of course, Cheapskates like me would never pay it. But, I don't post to twitter anyway. And I find myself spending very little time or Twitter, Facebook and other social media. Social media should never be confused with reality.
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I'm a little concerned about the future of robotics. I think wealth put into electric vehicles would be better put into anti-gravitational vehicles.
I'm concerned about the accelerated technical progress of Starlink and Neurolink. All this is so far above my reasoning, but I think it's his money and he is doing wonderful things as low cost housing, worldwide fiber internet, revolutionizing entire industries, providing thousands of jobs,
using so much of his money to help mankind and Space X, What of the immense possibilities of Space X for the future of humanity? Keeping the first amendment intact with insuring free speech.
Are people jealous of his wealth? Is that why they hate him? Because he has views? Media wants his views on everything.
He is a powerhouse. When he came to Earth, he hit the ground runnin'!
 
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Musk drew the ire of Ukrainians last month when he posted a tweet suggesting a Ukraine-Russia peace deal that included formally annexing Crimea to Russia and holding UN-supervised elections in four Russian-occupied regions in Ukraine.

Speaking at the Web Summit in Lisbon via an interpreter, Olena Zelenska responded, “And, of course, you know, he supported Ukraine from the very first day and that’s why Ukrainians really admired him. So it was extremely sensitive for us to read the tweet. Let’s be honest, even the smartest person can’t say the smartest things 24 hours a day. There are mistakes. And we hope it was a chance mistake.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/03/olena-zelenska-elon-musk-ukraine-peace-tweet
 
SeniorBen said:
Musk drew the ire of Ukrainians last month when he posted a tweet suggesting a Ukraine-Russia peace deal that included formally annexing Crimea to Russia and holding UN-supervised elections in four Russian-occupied regions in Ukraine.
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Many years ago, in an ongoing atrocity, Stalin invaded a large chunk of Ukraine in what is once again Russian occupied farm land. The extermination, and deportation of thousands of Ukrainian peasant farm owners, to be replaced by Russians, was known as the Holodomor, yet another of the great atrocities of Soviet Socialism. Clearly Putin would, at the very least, like to regain that fertile region and it’s Russian speaking Ukrainian occupants, so maybe he would settle for it, as would it’s occupants. A way to end the war? Maybe. I don‘t know, but it has to end somehow.
 
Here is a good example of the dangers of someone with so much wealth... They can control our elections, which means they can control who makes policies and what policies are enacted, which means they can control the people! Some people don't have a problem with that and follow blindly anyway, but it's not good for America. Here is the article about billionaires funding our elections:

Fueled by Billionaires, Political Spending Shatters Records Again
In the money race between America’s billionaires and small donors, the emerging political oligarchy is showing staying power.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/03/us/politics/midterm-money-billionaires.html
 
Twitter workers file class-action suit over mass layoffs without notice
Nov. 4 (UPI) -- Twitter workers have filed a class-action lawsuit against the company, claiming mass layoffs planned by new owner Elon Musk with no advance notice violate federal and California employment laws.

The federal Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act requires 60 days advance written notice of a mass layoff. According to an internal memo, Musk, who completed his $44 billion purchase of Twitter on Oct. 27, planned to begin layoffs Thursday and said staff would be notified of their employment status Friday morning.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2022/11/04/Twitter-workers-sue-over-mass-layoffs/9951667573798/

What a douche... firing all those workers just before the holidays.
 
And yet more shenanigans from Elon...

Elon Musk complains about Twitter advertisers — and gets fact checked by his own platform
Twitter CEO Elon Musk on Friday angrily lashed out after seeing his new company suffer a massive drop in advertising revenue -- and then had to see his own platform offer a fact check to his claims.

In a tweet posted Friday morning, Musk complained that "Twitter has had a massive drop in revenue, due to activist groups pressuring advertisers, even though nothing has changed with content moderation and we did everything we could to appease the activists."

Musk added that this situation was "extremely messed up" and he accused the activists of "trying to destroy free speech in America."

Shortly after Musk's tweet was posted, however, Twitter added a disclaimer to the tweet at the suggestion of Musk's followers that posted links to news sites ranging from the Wall Street Journal to the Daily Mail to demonstrate that "reporting shows advertisers suspending or canceling ad buys over concerns with Twitter platform direction, especially as related to content moderation."
https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-twitter-2658599914/

Instant karma! :ROFLMAO:
 
Pepper said:
I disagree. You're making Passive-Aggressive propaganda which you know is not allowed to be responded to in kind or else you wouldn't have posted it. Saying it's not an invitation does not excuse your political motives.
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Wrong, Pepper. Just a comparison as to what the average American should be thinking about. Don't start picking an argument with me as, I will not bite. It's your opinion.

I have no political motives, unlike you.
 
This just in...

Report: Musk fires Twitter curation team tackling misinformation
There’s as-yet unverified speculation that Elon Musk has fired Twitter’s curation team, which is responsible for countering misinformation posted to the social media network.

The claim comes (on Twitter, naturally) from Richie Assaly, a digital producer for the Toronto Star, who says he previously worked as a member of the curation team.

Assaly says team “leads, management and curators are all posting that they’ve been fired”.

The move, if true, “will make Twitter noisier, more dangerous & less interesting”, he asserts.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...lear-plant-uk-recession-us-jobs-business-live
 
I have no dog in this fight (argument).

But many of the posts in this thread seem to be arguing that the extreme and one-sided censorship going on at Twitter prior to Musk's involvement simply did not exist. But that censorship is precisely why Musk said he bought Twitter.
 

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