Fake Somali Daycare Centres With No Children Pocketed Billions of Taxpayer Cash

StarSong said:
There is zero proof that this story is anything more than a juiced up tale made by a right-wing influencer on YouTube who is not, I repeat NOT an investigative reporter. .

Given the current federal administration's crackdowns on the US's Somali communities in general and the Minnesotan community in particular, their response has been swift, hyperbolic and short on actual evidence.

Please, please, please, people. Stop taking YouTube and Tik Tok garbage influencers' BS as gospel and spreading it as thus. Use caution and double check their claims with credible sources.

Might there be some fraud in Minnesota? Of course. Just as there is likely some in every other state in the union, and every other country in the world.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/f...ting-somali-child-care-providers-in-minnesota
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@StarSong , thanks for calling this out. Youtube and Tik Tok's algorithms detect the users partisan leanings and serve up content that a person desires to see. To use an old term , that is cherry-picking at it's most prolific.
 

TabbyAnn said:
You are confusing race with ideology. Islam is an ideology like socialism, capitalism, communism etc. and it has no
defining race. The ideology of Islam is defined by the Quran and the teachings of Muhammad. People who support these teachings are called Muslims. You are trying to paint them as a race and that is wrong and uninformed.
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not it isnt - It is a religion.

communism, capitalism, socialism are political ideologies, not religions
 

Pure and simple regardless of groups many out there pulling off scams and fraud and somewhere along the route.
There was HUGE fraud in unemployment in hundreds of millions of dollars during Covid ... I stopped someone using my name and claiming unemployment on a company I had not worked at in 6 years ... state was trying to rush things thru and did NOT even Check that i was working and paying into system at that moment from another work location. A 30n second review would have stopped a lot of this.

Common sense and follow-up are needed. this is NOT a left or right position it is being good stewards of public money. Fraud is my and your money not monopoly money no one cares about.

I think accountability should be on government employees or management if they tell staff to look the other way. Failure should be rewarded with termination.
Make them BONDED and if failure occurs as they did not do the work and follow up ... the taxpayer can cash in the bond and employee can go do a less responsible job.

The " excuses" given on follow-up CBS "news" was simply insane.... the " reporter" called and the folks they talked to said they were "innocent no fraud...."
One so called reporter could solve jail overcrowding too........ just call and ask if someone is innocent. Everyone in jail is innocent. LOL
The excuses given by childcare operators also laughable ....
One spokesman said somebody broke in and" ONLY stole kids' enrollment and their staff employment records." ...I certainly hope they filed a real report and provided all involved with id theft protection etc. lol

The other center that could not spell "learning " said they were only open from 2pm to 10 pm. and the guy showed up too early.... That would not be a full work shift. let alone allowing time for lunch and no travel time between dropping a kid off or picking up child.
Simply does NOT add up.

The other fraud (all over not just Minnesota) it is basic things that were red flags.
Fake medical labs sent in for tests done and they were PAID even when patients said they had never heard of lab or had any test done. A person in area I live got $7 million for a lab whose only address was a PO box ...... COMMON SENSE should have alerted licensing dept ... billing dept with Medicare and Medicaid .
There needs a physical site when lab work was done. Labs are supposed to be inspected. labs have medical waste that would be documented. RED FLAGS so big you could see them from space. They caught the guy trying to leave country to avoid prosecution.

Who was doing any of follow up or inspection...... NO ONE maybe they called them and asked if all is good.
 
Muskrat said:
@Irishdude …you said it well. Wherever there is something to gain…there are those that take. I do not care to live in a white bread world. My ex’s family sent money on a regular basis to the IRA….another ex was a drug dealer.
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What? White bread world?
Teacher Terry said:
Whenever you paint an entire group of people as being a certain way it’s racist and wrong.
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Racist card incoming.
CarolfromTX said:
Make no mistake. None of this could go on without help from Americans and bureaucrats who look the other way. But save your accusations of racism, because I’m over it. And it’s not working anymore.
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I agree.
Nathan said:
@StarSong , thanks for calling this out. Youtube and Tik Tok's algorithms detect the users partisan leanings and serve up content that a person desires to see. To use an old term , that is cherry-picking at it's most prolific.
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So what. I believe it to be credible reporting.
 
January said:
not it isnt - It is a religion.

communism, capitalism, socialism are political ideologies, not religions
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The Muslim Brotherhood certainly likes for you to portray Islam only as a religion because of advantages that offers in America. But in reality Islam is a government ideology just like capitalism, socialism, and communism etc. and in Islamic countries around the world, Islam is the government. The only government. And they are very opposed to our democratic form of government. The Quran and teachings of Muhammad contain the laws for civilian government and Muhammad was the governor of his region. Many countries have a separate government and religion but in Islamic countries Islam is the government. In America the Constitution has never defined what a religion is.
 
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TabbyAnn said:
The Muslim Brotherhood certainly likes for you to portray Islam only as a religion because of advantages that offers in America. But in reality Islam is a government ideology just like capitalism, socialism, and communism etc. and in Islamic countries around the world, Islam is the government. The only government. And they are very opposed to our democratic form of government. The Quran and teachings of Muhammad contain the laws for civilian government and Muhammad was the governor of his region. Many countries have a separate government and religion but in Islamic countries Islam is the government. In America the Constitution has never defined what a religion is.
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Islam is a religion.

It is not a government ideology.

and 'advantages in America' is really beside the point - Islam is a religion with followers around the world, not just in America.
The Muslim Brotherhood is not representative of all Muslims, any more than one Christian organisation is representative of all Christians.
 
Brookswood said:
Then there is the high speed train between LA and San Francisco which is now at 100 billion dollars with not a mile high speed track built. Sadly, this has poisoned the well for future such projects.

In my area we voted years ago for a 54 billion dollar mass transit project. The current price to completion is now 185 Billion. Yet nobody in local or state government seems to care. Ask them about it and you get excuses, attacks on the messenger, and disparaging of the reputation of those who wonder how the price could have more than tripled.
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In my area we have big tax to build a light rail system this was sold as planned all out and $$ number put to voters was correct. Now doubled or tripled. over 2 years behind and in one section they laid tracks twice so far.

1. tracks not spaced correctly so train would not fit.
2. second time tracks laid and ground beneath sunk 2 feet
3 NOW buying new right of way and buildings for attempt #3
incompetence is often equal or greater than the fraud.

Whatever company hired that could not measure or got a real geo survey to not see they were building on unstable ground should have to pay the overrun.

I heard the MN Governor is dropping out of re-election race today.
 
January said:
Islam is a religion.

It is not a government ideology.

and 'advantages in America' is really beside the point - Islam is a religion with followers around the world, not just in America.
The Muslim Brotherhood is not representative of all Muslims, any more than one Christian organisation is representative of all Christians.
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Islam is the government ideology used by Islamic countries all over the world. This government ideology is found in The Quran and the teachings of Muhammad. These civilian laws are for governing a region, and in fact Muhammad (the founder of Islam) was the governor of his region. Muslims are well defined and self-defined as believing in the Quran and there are copies of it in libraries all over the world. You are trying to paint Muslims according to your own beliefs instead of their beliefs and their beliefs are well documented in the Quran

The Muslim Brotherhood is a world wide organization that connects Islamic leaders around the world and their action militants who seek to enforce Islamic Law in their region and force it on other regions. These action groups are named by the region they represent and include al Quida, Boco Haram, ISIS, Hamas, Hezbolla, Taliban, al Shabob and others. They are devout Muslims who support the same Quran all Muslims support.
 
Islam is a religion - look up any source and it will be listed in religions of the world.
not political ideologies

of course they follow the quran - that is like saying christians follow the bible - but obviously different interpretations and sects

it is a religion same as christianity etc are.

you are trying to paint them as one homogenous group - whereas of course just like christians, jews, atheists etc, they don't all have same political ideology or all belong to same organisations. Like all christians are not Nazi's

what my beliefs are is irelevant - fact: Islam is a religion. I can have my own beliefs or no religious beliefs - but I can't have my own facts.
 
Irishdude said:
No, these are organized groups setting up phony daycare centers and billing the government for them.
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There was a time when we in New South Wales, and probably other states too, had similar scams going on in the vocational training industry. Perpetrators of the scams included Australian citizens and Chinese nationals. Catching them was tricky because inspections were notified in advance.
 
While the bickering is sometimes amusing, bottom line is that everyone is correct. Bizarre, eh? Perhaps this will help:

Islam as a modern ideology; An Overview | Al-Furqan Islamic Heritage Foundation

"Al-Furqan Islamic Heritage Foundation (London): A UK-based non-profit institution dedicated to the study, cataloging, publication, preservation, and conservation of Islamic manuscripts worldwide."
 

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