France to replace the words 'mother' and 'father' with 'parent 1' and 'parent 2'

[RadishRose]

A new one for me.

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Schools in France are to replace the words ‘mother’ and ‘father’ with ‘Parent 1’ and ‘Parent 2’ on official documents.


The move is part of an amendment to a new draft education bill, which supporters say seeks to put an end to discrimination against same-sex parents.


But critics argue it “dehumanises” parenthood and could lead to rows over who should be referred to as “parent 1".

So, who should be Parent No. 1?

Entire article see-

https://news.yahoo.com/france-replace-words-mother-father-parent-1-parent-2-111807643.html

 

[Marie5656]

Why am I suddenly reminded of the Dr. Seuss characters "Thing 1 and Thing 2"

 

[ClassicRockr]

Just another stupid thing. And, there goes that word "discrimination", AGAIN.

 

[Aunt Bea]

These days I would go with the term Legal Guardian.

 

[RadishRose]

Legal Guardian 1 or 2 ? layful:

 

[Aunt Bea]

Legal Guardian 1 or 2 ? layful:

or 3 or 4, it takes a village.nthego:

 

[RadishRose]

:lofl:

 

[Sassycakes]

1. Mother (she gave birth to the child)not forgetting the pain of delivery
2. Father (gave his sperm)

Adopted child ? Parents choice

 

[C'est Moi]

I'll stick with "mother" and "father." This crap is getting beyond ridiculous.

 

[Tommy]

We jokingly threatened to name our children "Kid 1" and Kid 2". :tongue:

 

[Gary O']

Soooo, ‘Mom’ and ‘Dad’ is out too, I s'pose


What’s short for Un and Deux?

 

[Gary O']

1. Mother (she gave birth to the child)not forgetting the pain of delivery
2. Father (gave his sperm)

And when a small child announces he has to go number 2

Is he corrected to say ‘I gotta take a Dad?'

 

[Wren]

My heart bleeds for the innocent children caught up in all this madness.....

 

[Linda]

I don't think the change is wise. How did they handle it on the American TV show "Modern Family" where the little girl has 2 dad's? How about Dad and Spouse Dad? I don't like 1 and 2. Maybe they figure it'll work if this is only on documents and not what the 2 parents are actually called? Dad and Daddy-Oh, Mother and Mom.....it could all get so confusing.

 

[chic]

I see trouble precipitated by whichever sex is relegated to #2. This is beyond stupid.

 

[toffee]

sounds like a dr who title --- or come in number 3 your time is up etc ----trust the French 'how bad to give people number title ?
idiotic yes for sure '' nothing wrong in MUM /DAD / MOTHER /FATHER / JEEEZ wht next !!!!

 

[CeeCee]

Crazy and the whole thing gives me a headache!

Although I personally don’t even like calling parents by their names why don’t they do that?


John and Mike or Sally and Jane, etc.

 

[IKE]

This crap is getting beyond ridiculous.

Agree.

 

[Ronni]

I can see why same-sex parents would find "mother" and "father" designations offensive. The gender lines blur or disappear altogether when you have two adults of the same sex raising a child or children together.

But designations of Parent 1 and Parent 2 are hierarchal, and that could be offensive as well, whereas the standard "mother" and "father" offer a simple gender designation with no specific hierarchy,

CeeCee, I think it's more about the legal designations than what the kids of same sex couples call their parents. What to call them is entirely a personal choice, but legal issues, like who is listed on the birth certificate and in what capacity, or official ones for various forms etc., can get really tricky.

 

[CeeCee]

I can see why same-sex parents would find "mother" and "father" designations offensive. The gender lines blur or disappear altogether when you have two adults of the same sex raising a child or children together.

But designations of Parent 1 and Parent 2 are hierarchal, and that could be offensive as well, whereas the standard "mother" and "father" offer a simple gender designation with no specific hierarchy,

CeeCee, I think it's more about the legal designations than what the kids of same sex couples call their parents. What to call them is entirely a personal choice, but legal issues, like who is listed on the birth certificate and in what capacity, or official ones for various forms etc., can get really tricky.

Ok, thanks for the clarification....obvious I didn’t read the link...Busted, lol.

 

[Sunny]

This idea sounds too dumb to ever catch on in real life. Maybe they will be Parent 1 and Parent 2 on legal documents, but can you imagine a kid actually referring to them in that way? (Would be a good SNL skit.)

 

[DaveA]

As one marriage in a lifetime has lost favor in our society, how do we go about numbering the various step dads and mums.? Do they get a different designation - -S1, S2, M2, etc...

 

[fuzzybuddy]

It's 2019, What do you call the same sex parents of an adopted child? Mom & Mom? or Dad & Dad?

 

[CeeCee]

I think the best solution is for the legal document to state who gave birth and maybe eggs and who provided the sperm. That’s important.

Then the couples can decide the rest. That’s fair.

 

[C'est Moi]

It's 2019, What do you call the same sex parents of an adopted child? Mom & Mom? or Dad & Dad?

I'd say that is up to the individual families.