Jackie22
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Well said, Butterfly, I'm coming in late on this one, but just wanted to say that this decision was the correct one and it restores my faith.
Gay Marriage Upheld by Supreme Court in Close Ruling
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Well said, Butterfly, I'm coming in late on this one, but just wanted to say that this decision was the correct one and it restores my faith.
Josiah
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First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they attack you. Then you win.
Josiah
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The pictures of joy and happiness engendered by this ruling are so infectious that I drove into Cincinnati yesterday to watch some of the Gay Pride Parade and so that I could be a small part of the celebration.
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Well done America!!
Hi drifter. Was there any other reason for objecting? Well maybe just personal feelings.
In ultra-conservative West Texas most counties are refusing to issue licenses to same-sex couples. Their reasoning is it goes against the "closely-held religious beliefs" of the county employees!
Interestingly, they are completely comfortable filing divorces for hetero-sexual couples. I'm no biblical scholar, but isn't Jesus against those?
Interestingly, they are completely comfortable filing divorces for hetero-sexual couples. I'm no biblical scholar, but isn't Jesus against those?
Warrigal
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Unequivocably so.
Butterfly
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Just goes to show the hypocrisy of the far right.
I was talking to someone yesterday and the subject of the Supreme Court decision came up and the person thought it was "disgusting." I asked why, and she said "people shouldn't be homosexuals." I asked her exactly how she thought allowing them to marry one another would make that worse, since they are who they are and are forming lifelong commitments without the civil protections of marriage anyway, and she had no answer, except that they "shouldn't be homosexuals." It was like talking to a stump. She also does not believe they gays should be allowed to teach in schools, etc., because they will "corrupt our youth." It's NOT contagious, folks. YEESH!
I was talking to someone yesterday and the subject of the Supreme Court decision came up and the person thought it was "disgusting." I asked why, and she said "people shouldn't be homosexuals." I asked her exactly how she thought allowing them to marry one another would make that worse, since they are who they are and are forming lifelong commitments without the civil protections of marriage anyway, and she had no answer, except that they "shouldn't be homosexuals." It was like talking to a stump. She also does not believe they gays should be allowed to teach in schools, etc., because they will "corrupt our youth." It's NOT contagious, folks. YEESH!
Butterfly
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Well said, Josiah!
It looks like this Supreme Court ruling, and some of the other things that have been going on recently, has really upset the evangelicals. They are going against the country, the constitution, and the American Flag, more on this here.
Evangelical Republicans hate America with religious passion because the Founding Fathers and Constitution’s Framers did not create a Christian theocracy governed by biblical dogmata. In fact, the religious right has indicated in thousands of ways that not only do they hate America, they hate the Constitution even more in great part due to its guarantee of equal, civil, and due process rights for all Americans.
Now it appears that the American flag is under attack from evangelicals. No matter one’s political affiliation, there is nothing that elicits greater outrage from Republicans, and most Americans for that matter, than disrespecting the American flag.One form of disrespecting the American flag, and violating 4 U.S. § 7, is flying a flag, any flag, above the American flag like a Baptist preacher did in Cleveland County North Carolina.
The evangelical bigot, Pastor Rit Varriale, was sending an evangelical message that his kind are very, very angry that the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed that the Constitution’s equal and civil rights guarantees apply to all Americans. To make his point, and reveal his hatred of America, Varriale raised a “Christian” flag above the American flag to show his blatant disrespect for the Stars and Stripes, America, the Constitution, and the rule of law.
In a rant on his website the Baptist bigot railed against LGBT Americans, the Constitution, the Supreme Court and America, the “home of the cowards” and called on Christians to “Stand up to the courts! The bravest thing Christians can do today is stand up to the Supreme Court of the United States and say, ‘No!‘”
As an aside, the Christian bible mandates that good Christians “obey the government authorities,” but since neo-Christians hate America there is no reason to expect them to acknowledge the government’s, or Constitution’s, authority and it is why they have to leave, form their own theocracy; there are plenty in the Middle East.The North Carolina preacher is not alone in hating a non-theocratic America.
In Louisiana a state Supreme Court Justice claimed in a ruling that he is not obligated to follow the United States Supreme Court’s decision founded on the Founding Fathers’ intent that the U.S. Constitution is the law of the land. The justice, Jefferson D. Hughes, III, wrote that he cannot, and will not, follow the Constitution and inferred that LGBT people are child molesters in a case involving an adoption he said “is a most troubling prospect” because it was an “adoption by same sex partners of a young child of the same sex” even though that is not the case.
Republican governors have displayed their disdain for America and its Constitution by labeling the High Court’s ruling “judicial tyranny” and the Obergefell v. Hodges decision incited Kansas Governor Sam Brownback to issue an emergency executive order preemptively protecting evangelicals who are intent on violating the Constitution and Supreme Court ruling.
Part of Brownback’s executive order was all for show, and likely to distract attention from his catastrophic economic actions, but it also sets up Kansas for myriad lawsuits and court battles based on the bible as the law of the land; lawsuits and court battles evangelical Brownback will never win.
What religious right Republicans like Brownback, Scott Walker, Piyush Jindal, and Texas AG Ken Paxton reveal is not their Christian bona fides, but their sheer hatred of America that they are unable to transform into a Christian theocracy.
Obviously, since they do not love America, it is time for the lot of them to leave it.This un-American, and pro-theocracy, movement is not reserved to evangelical clergy and Republican governors, legislators, and presidential candidates.
In Decatur County, Tennessee, the entire county clerk’s office resigned en masse to protest the U.S. Constitution as the law of the land “for the glory of god.”
The elected county clerk, and staff, said the Constitution is wrong “because it goes against the bible and everything god intended it to be.”
But the Christian bible is not the law of the land, the United States Constitution is; “exactly as the Founding Fathers intended it to be.”The religious right and their “onward Christian soldier” mentality has been anti-America and anti-Constitution since Ronald Reagan opened the theocratic floodgates and gave them keys to govern by theocracy. The level of rage in the evangelical movement is borne of having a high measure of success in inserting their bastardized version of Christianity into government without opposition, and with tax exemption.
It is telling that when the Supreme Court gave evangelical employers the right to control women’s reproductive rights, the religious right cheered wildly. When the same Papal-5 on the High Court deconstructed the religious clauses of the 1st Amendment and allowed sectarian (Christian) prayers at government meetings, the evangelical right were ecstatic.
However, when the High Court ruled that all Americans were guaranteed equal, civil, and due process rights in the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, the anti-America and anti-Constitution hatred erupted as expected. Why? Because the Constitution is the law of the land and the Court ruling affirmed that, at least for now,
America is not a Christian theocracy and as Founding Father John Adams stated, it is not in any way a Christian nation.During the 1960s when millions of Americans protested against the Viet Nam War, and seeing their sons and daughters, brothers and fathers, sent to die, conservatives and Republicans adopted the mantra, “America, love it or leave it.” Nearly forty years later when Americans protested another senseless war of convenience in Iraq because their loved ones were being sent to die,
Republicans and conservatives accused them of “not supporting the troops, supporting the terrorists, being unpatriotic,” and resurrected the sixties’ mantra, “America, love it or leave it.”Now because the nation’s highest Court confirmed that the United States Constitution is the law of the land, and applies equally to all Americans, religious Republicans and evangelical bigots have shown they hate everything about America.
It is time, and long overdue, for all Americans that love the American flag and everything it stands for, and the U.S. Constitution as the law of the land to tell religious Republicans and evangelical maniacs that this is “America; love it or leave it.” For many, many Americans, the idea of evicting evangelicals and religious Republicans with their false “Christian” flag from a country they hate with religious passion is not a silly mantra; it is a very serious demand.
Evangelical Republicans hate America with religious passion because the Founding Fathers and Constitution’s Framers did not create a Christian theocracy governed by biblical dogmata. In fact, the religious right has indicated in thousands of ways that not only do they hate America, they hate the Constitution even more in great part due to its guarantee of equal, civil, and due process rights for all Americans.
Now it appears that the American flag is under attack from evangelicals. No matter one’s political affiliation, there is nothing that elicits greater outrage from Republicans, and most Americans for that matter, than disrespecting the American flag.One form of disrespecting the American flag, and violating 4 U.S. § 7, is flying a flag, any flag, above the American flag like a Baptist preacher did in Cleveland County North Carolina.
The evangelical bigot, Pastor Rit Varriale, was sending an evangelical message that his kind are very, very angry that the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed that the Constitution’s equal and civil rights guarantees apply to all Americans. To make his point, and reveal his hatred of America, Varriale raised a “Christian” flag above the American flag to show his blatant disrespect for the Stars and Stripes, America, the Constitution, and the rule of law.
In a rant on his website the Baptist bigot railed against LGBT Americans, the Constitution, the Supreme Court and America, the “home of the cowards” and called on Christians to “Stand up to the courts! The bravest thing Christians can do today is stand up to the Supreme Court of the United States and say, ‘No!‘”
As an aside, the Christian bible mandates that good Christians “obey the government authorities,” but since neo-Christians hate America there is no reason to expect them to acknowledge the government’s, or Constitution’s, authority and it is why they have to leave, form their own theocracy; there are plenty in the Middle East.The North Carolina preacher is not alone in hating a non-theocratic America.
In Louisiana a state Supreme Court Justice claimed in a ruling that he is not obligated to follow the United States Supreme Court’s decision founded on the Founding Fathers’ intent that the U.S. Constitution is the law of the land. The justice, Jefferson D. Hughes, III, wrote that he cannot, and will not, follow the Constitution and inferred that LGBT people are child molesters in a case involving an adoption he said “is a most troubling prospect” because it was an “adoption by same sex partners of a young child of the same sex” even though that is not the case.
Part of Brownback’s executive order was all for show, and likely to distract attention from his catastrophic economic actions, but it also sets up Kansas for myriad lawsuits and court battles based on the bible as the law of the land; lawsuits and court battles evangelical Brownback will never win.
What religious right Republicans like Brownback, Scott Walker, Piyush Jindal, and Texas AG Ken Paxton reveal is not their Christian bona fides, but their sheer hatred of America that they are unable to transform into a Christian theocracy.
Obviously, since they do not love America, it is time for the lot of them to leave it.This un-American, and pro-theocracy, movement is not reserved to evangelical clergy and Republican governors, legislators, and presidential candidates.
In Decatur County, Tennessee, the entire county clerk’s office resigned en masse to protest the U.S. Constitution as the law of the land “for the glory of god.”
The elected county clerk, and staff, said the Constitution is wrong “because it goes against the bible and everything god intended it to be.”
But the Christian bible is not the law of the land, the United States Constitution is; “exactly as the Founding Fathers intended it to be.”The religious right and their “onward Christian soldier” mentality has been anti-America and anti-Constitution since Ronald Reagan opened the theocratic floodgates and gave them keys to govern by theocracy. The level of rage in the evangelical movement is borne of having a high measure of success in inserting their bastardized version of Christianity into government without opposition, and with tax exemption.
It is telling that when the Supreme Court gave evangelical employers the right to control women’s reproductive rights, the religious right cheered wildly. When the same Papal-5 on the High Court deconstructed the religious clauses of the 1st Amendment and allowed sectarian (Christian) prayers at government meetings, the evangelical right were ecstatic.
However, when the High Court ruled that all Americans were guaranteed equal, civil, and due process rights in the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, the anti-America and anti-Constitution hatred erupted as expected. Why? Because the Constitution is the law of the land and the Court ruling affirmed that, at least for now,
America is not a Christian theocracy and as Founding Father John Adams stated, it is not in any way a Christian nation.During the 1960s when millions of Americans protested against the Viet Nam War, and seeing their sons and daughters, brothers and fathers, sent to die, conservatives and Republicans adopted the mantra, “America, love it or leave it.” Nearly forty years later when Americans protested another senseless war of convenience in Iraq because their loved ones were being sent to die,
Republicans and conservatives accused them of “not supporting the troops, supporting the terrorists, being unpatriotic,” and resurrected the sixties’ mantra, “America, love it or leave it.”Now because the nation’s highest Court confirmed that the United States Constitution is the law of the land, and applies equally to all Americans, religious Republicans and evangelical bigots have shown they hate everything about America.
It is time, and long overdue, for all Americans that love the American flag and everything it stands for, and the U.S. Constitution as the law of the land to tell religious Republicans and evangelical maniacs that this is “America; love it or leave it.” For many, many Americans, the idea of evicting evangelicals and religious Republicans with their false “Christian” flag from a country they hate with religious passion is not a silly mantra; it is a very serious demand.
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This does not surprise me at all..