I’ve never seen a sign saying business reserves the right to refuse services to anyone but I CAN certainly understand the need to have such a sign. I was a bridesmaid to a bridezilla so ‘check.’
Could the sign be legally used in the way @Jeni suggests? "to kick out people whom are on drugs/ creating a diversion for theft ..... and generalized other bad customers." I'd hope so.
Absolutely. I have seen such notices myself pre and post entry to a business. Absolutely legal. It is merely a notice of conduct. Being disorderly then asked to leave in lieu of a trespassing charge. Of course any person can claim the reason is anti - PA laws, they asked me to leave because I was black or Christian, etc. How about they were causing a business disturbance, etc.?
I'm with you. I think if someone goes into business to serve the public and benefit financially from it, they should do just that......serve the public and don't discriminate against any customers due to their race, ethnicity, religion or gender.
We have “Love is Love” on a rainbow flag on many, if not most, stores in town. The size is about 8” square usually. It’s just a quiet, positive message. They would get my business.
They would absolutely get my business too. There are several homes in my area that have the larger sign which includes other sayings, either on their lawn or inside of their front window. We need much more of that IMO, more love and tolerance....less hate. We are all people, all feel pain when injured, all have joys or problems which affect our emotional and mental health, and we all bleed red. Respect and equality is a good thing.
These were my exact thoughts right from the start.
Who is going to decide which person is extremely hateful and which people are full of love and positivity? I saw a a man I worked with bring in a cake that I would describe as vulgar, but he thought it was funny and was wanting to make his friends laugh out of his love for them.
Seems to me if you have a *****, go to the men's room. if you don't go to the ladies room. If you have both then how do you dress? Go to the appropriate facility.
....or refuse them if they are Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, etc. Religion should be kept out of business dealings, if you are intolerant and hateful, you need to rethink your 'religious' values and take a good look in the mirror.
My point exactly. IMO religion based refusal to make a cake borders on hate. How can a person that uses religion deny another human when the bible clearly states in John1 that we are all God's children. For centuries religion has caused more grief for humans than just about anything else.
Maybe we should just let you decide who gets cake and who doesn't. Your rare ability to be able to look at a person and judge whether or not they are intolerant, hateful, positive or loving reminds me of the gun lovers who think we should just sell guns to the good guys and not to the bad ones. If you think only religious people are intolerant you should look in the mirror yourself, or maybe just go back and read your posts.
Religious beliefs should never be involved when running a business. Religion just adds another needless division that shouldn’t be part of the equation in any shape or form.
I could not agree more Knight, well said. Many of those who profess to follow Jesus are the opposite of being Christ-like. Religion has caused wars, grief and death for many, many years now. In my opinion, the world would be better off without religion, but unfortunately, that will not happen. Thanks for your input, always appreciated and respected.
Amen!
I owned an adult lingerie store. We had trouble with transvestites. My husband banned them. They were too wild & uncontrollable in store. One locked himself in my private bathroom with a bunch of stuff to "try on". Memory getting fuzzy, but I know he ruined some stuff. Did he pay for it? I'm pretty sure he did, but still....
My primary business was as a consulting engineer, providing services to clients, I was the owner (and most of the staff). I was also in the landlord business off and on, properties I owned. My wife is an independent therapist, has been for a long time.
Do you have any statistics to back that up?
I haven't, but my father owned his own display/art business. If one of his clients (usually department stores) had asked him to make a window display of manikins having sex or commissioned him for a lewd painting, I'm sure he would have refused, just as he would have refused to work for racists or anti-Semites. He always thought one of the perks of being his own boss was that he had that power.
Exactly, religion is a belief, and you can believe anything you want. But no one should be allowed to push their beliefs on others or make laws or rules regarding those beliefs. Which religion and god are you going to worship? there are hundreds of gods and different religions. This is a couple that wants a cake, bake the freaking cake and collect your money. There is absolutely no evidence of God, as Christopher Hitchens said " Religion is poison because it asks us to give up our most precious faculty, which is that of reason, and to believe things without evidence. It then asks us to respect this, which it calls faith" no thank you, keep it to yourself. He also said "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"
Most wars created are religion based.
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