Ghislaine Maxwell Sentenced today

hollydolly said:
yes it would have been Tish, except the Judge decided to give her the maximum sentence that was lawful the year that the crimes took place which was 2003... and the maximum then was 20 years, and that's what the judge gave her.
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The Judge could only hand down a sentence which was in effect at the time the crime occured, period.
 

She was born into a life of privilege and had the best of everything. As a functioning, educated adult she opted to participate in activities that have resulted in her now being a registered sex offender for the remainder of her life and, at her current age of 60, will spend the next 20 years in prison which could be a life sentence.
 
hollydolly said:
She's been sentenced... 20 years !!...

Judge Alison Nathan handed down the 240-month sentence, followed by five years supervised release in Manhattan federal court. The judge imposed a fine of $750,000.

Before the sentencing Maxwell, appearing in a blue prison uniform with shackles around her ankles, addressed the court and said she was 'fooled' by Epstein.

'I realize I have been convicted of assisting Jeffrey Epstein to commit these crimes,' she said. 'My association with Epstein will permanently stain me. It is the biggest regret of my life that I ever met him.'

She added that Epstein 'fooled all of those in his orbit.'

Before she spoke, Maxwell was forced to face her sex trafficking victims as they gave dramatic testimony.
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As she heads to a federal prison to complete her 20-year sentence, Ghislaine Maxwell can at least console herself that she didn't surrender lightly. In fact, she and her dwindling band of supporters tried everything they could think of.

She can also reassure herself that it won't be as bad as Brooklyn's grim Metropolitan Detention Centre, her home for the past 23 months.

Maxwell's next destination, largely based on the address she has given for where she intends to live on her release, is Danbury Federal Correctional Institution in Connecticut.

The low-security facility, which has separate male and female prisons, was partly used as the inspiration for the fictional Litchfield Correctional Institution in the prison drama TV series Orange Is The New Black.

This new home will be 'like Disneyland' in comparison to Brooklyn, says Justin Paperny, whose company, White Collar Advice, advises high-profile clients on coping with life behind bars.

Maxwell's offences are too severe for her to be placed in a 'minimum security' or open prison – the usual destination for white-collar criminals. But Danbury is hardly the Gulag. It has its own running track, a baseball pitch and a manicured lawn with trees and pathways.

The facility offers a 'wide variety of hobby craft and music' for inmates as well as circuit-training, gardening, aerobics and 'over-50s' fitness. There is also a library and chapel. Other than when they are sleeping or working, inmates can potentially spend the rest of the time roaming the facility.
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Inmates at Danbury are offered a 'wide variety of hobby craft and music programs' like circuit training, aerobics, fitness class

The prison has held previous inmates including singer Lauryn Hill, reality TV star Teresa Giudice, and Piper Kerman, author of Orange is the New Black.

Aerial photos of the prison show a running track, a baseball pitch, and a well manicured lawn with trees and pathways.

Former Danbury inmates have complained that its connection with Orange Is The New Black has encouraged a misleading perception of it as 'Club Fed', with an almost holiday camp atmosphere.

They claim that inmates are often shackled during childbirth, Muslim women have hijabs ripped off their heads, and prisoners can expect intimate pat-down searches by male guards checking they aren't smuggling food from the canteen.

But before Maxwell can make use of the facilities, the authorities will need to determine the level of security she will need. Psychologists will evaluate whether she once more needs to be placed on suicide watch and isolated from other prisoners.

Maxwell's own lawyers have claimed, after a fellow Metropolitan Detention Centre inmate was allegedly offered money to hang her, that 'there are numerous prison inmates who would not hesitate to kill Ms Maxwell – whether for money, fame, or simple 'street cred'.

If that proves to be the case at Danbury, she may find herself isolated once more.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rison-like-Disneyland-hellhole-two-years.html
 
A former federal prosecutor has said that Ghislaine Maxwell is unlikely to ever divulge what she knows about Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking scheme, after she was sentenced to 20 years in prison for helping the late financier abuse underage girls.

Maxwell, who was handed the stiff sentence on Tuesday in Manhattan federal court, has long been accused of knowing sordid details about Epstein and his potential co-conspirators, but has showed no signs of cooperating with federal investigators.

Neama Rahmani, a former federal prosecutor who is now a litigator in Los Angeles, believes that Maxwell's actions and decisions to date suggest that she will never cooperate against Epstein's potential co-conspirators.

'She's dug in her heels -- she pushed this case to trial, she made all these women testify, and revictimized them by making them repeat their stories in court,' Rhamani told DailyMail.com in an interview shortly after the sentencing.

'If you wanted the full benefit of cooperation, you wouldn't do any of this,' he added. 'I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that anyone else is going to be prosecuted in this case.'
 
Jeni said:
No one said they did ........
I just think too many people give too much benefit of doubt to the idea they just did not have an idea that more was expected etc..

There are literally tons of TV or movies that have shown the ruse for decades.....
i was aware at that age and that was a while ago.... my daughter was also aware and would have seen red flags .....
yet we pretend these girls were clueless....
regardless that has no impact on Ms. Maxwell's part but
this is a prime example to USE in educating people that yes there are these predators out there....yet i see no effort in educating someone who may be approached by a similar dirt bag and his wing woman.
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I haven't seen anyplace where the girls were called "clueless". The media mostly says they were "taken advantage of", and red-flags or not, obviously they weren't prepared for how this would effect them emotionally and socially - they weren't mature enough to know, nor to have developed the skills to cope.

I'm not really arguing with you, Jeni, it's just that your comment came across (to me) like the victims were at fault, too. No matter how skanky this seemed to them at the beginning, imo they couldn't have imagined it could get way more skanky than that. Their lack of wisdom made them vulnerable, and Maxwell and knew that.
 
Jeni said:
I know there is some different opinions on this but ....... even the girls most likely had a clue as to why they were being PAID very well to give massages when these people could well afford a professional massage therapist......
Girls regardless of the home situation have a clue about why .....
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I've had little therapy but I did go to a woman in my mid 40's. I think she was a good therapist but I just stopped going. She told me, due to my upbringing, that I should be "dead, strung out on drugs or in prison." While it was validating for someone to state my childhood was a nightmare, I didn't process that comment for years. And I realize, had I been pretty, had people been nicer to me because I looked a lot better than what I do, I could have gotten myself into some real messes. I could have been played by a need of just wanting to belong someplace to do something I may have greatly regretted. I deal with some real issues, but I'm at least not in prison.
 
Hollydolly, what are the thoughts about this woman in England? I don't know that she has lived there for quite some time so there may not be much interest in her situation. Of course, I suppose when Andrew's name came up that may have resulted in a few pursed lips.
 
Remy said:
I've had little therapy but I did go to a woman in my mid 40's. I think she was a good therapist but I just stopped going. She told me, due to my upbringing, that I should be "dead, strung out on drugs or in prison." While it was validating for someone to state my childhood was a nightmare, I didn't process that comment for years. And I realize, had I been pretty, had people been nicer to me because I looked a lot better than what I do, I could have gotten myself into some real messes. I could have been played by a need of just wanting to belong someplace to do something I may have greatly regretted. I deal with some real issues, but I'm at least not in prison.
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been there had that same childhood, so I know exactly where you're coming from...🤗
 
J-Kat said:
Hollydolly, what are the thoughts about this woman in England? I don't know that she has lived there for quite some time so there may not be much interest in her situation. Of course, I suppose when Andrew's name came up that may have resulted in a few pursed lips.
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the truth is , people cannot stand the whole Maxwell family. They're all shysters, and the father stole so many people's pensions, and hundreds of people went into retirement in poverty .. so the Maxwell name is Mud here which is why I suppose they don't live here... .. No-one has any time for Andrew... they had little enough time for him as the Queen favourite son who was allowed to act like a playboy.. and not earn Tax payers money but use it anyway to squander on expensive private planes etc.. so when this situation came up, he was dead and buried as far as the British people were concerned...which is why he's now not permitted to carry out any royal duties.. and has had his salary docked of money from the taxpayer.. altho' it's commonly reported that the Queen is paying him from her own private account
 
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Remy said:
I'm so sorry holly. A lot of people just don't get how vulnerable you can be at such a young age when you are treated badly as a child and teen. It's like starting from infancy at 18.
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exactly that Remy, I'm sorry you had to suffer as well. I often wonder even now in my 60's why they brought me into the world when they clearly hated me from the start :(
 
hollydolly said:
exactly that Remy, I'm sorry you had to suffer as well. I often wonder even now in my 60's why they brought me into the world when they clearly hated me from the start :(
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I don't know how anyone could hate you. There was something profoundly wrong with those people.

I had a mother who claimed to love me more than anything. And in her twisted mind, I'm sure she did. But then her rages said something else. The rages were quickly forgotten by her however. What a brain to have.
 
JaniceM said:
Many people survive all kinds of bad things without becoming criminals.
((((((HUGS))))))
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This is very true. I'm certainly not a criminal. My upbringing causes me stress daily. Including at work.

My mother had trauma. There are people who had more. I don't know if that's what turned her into a borderline personality disorder or she was born that way.
 
Remy said:
This is very true. I'm certainly not a criminal. My upbringing causes me stress daily. Including at work.

My mother had trauma. There are people who had more. I don't know if that's what turned her into a borderline personality disorder or she was born that way.
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Not meaning to go off-topic, but while I don't know much at all about borderline, debates about other personality disorders have been going on for a long time and I'm totally convinced NPD at least is Nurture, not Nature.. and not always about abuse or trauma but "some something" that led the person to believe she was Special, either in a good way or a bad way.
 
In my case it was my father who was the violent, psychopath, and my mother through choice or fear never stopped him, she'd had a violent upbringing by Nuns in an orphanage ... she had no children skills.. she did hit me and she was constantly putting me into foster care.. and or threatening me with it, so really mental abuse was more the norm from her, but my father.... well there are no words.

i'd want to see my mother again if there's a heaven.. but I hope and pray the father burns every day of eternity
 
Jeni said:
wow does she expect people to believe she was fooled.........
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I am not in ANY way defending Maxwell. What she did was absolutely abhorrent and despicable. I haven’t followed the case very closely so I don’t have all the details.

What I DO know, having lived with a domineering and controlling man for 30+years who I have come to realize is a sociopath, I will say that when you’re subjected to that level of domination and manipulation, you change. You become someone else. It becomes a survival mechanism.

If you haven’t experienced it, it’s impossible to understand and I won’t belabor it here. I could write pages and it STILL wouldn’t be understandable or likely even believable. But it’s true nonetheless and countless papers have been written about the phenomena.

If she was controlled or dominated by that wicked, soulless man, in the way that only a sociopath can, then it’s plausible that she was so completely taken over that nothing became more important than her survival, than pleasing him, than doing his bidding.

Again, I’m not defending her. I don’t know their relationship but I’ve lived with a level of domination that made me do things I’m not proud of. At the time it was the only way I could continue to survive the relationship.
 
JaniceM said:
Not meaning to go off-topic, but while I don't know much at all about borderline, debates about other personality disorders have been going on for a long time and I'm totally convinced NPD at least is Nurture, not Nature.. and not always about abuse or trauma but "some something" that led the person to believe she was Special, either in a good way or a bad way.
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Hard to know. I'll never know what created my mother. Or why my stepfather was so passive and enabled her. A lot of what you read about personality disorders just glaze the surface. Example "borderlines are afraid of abandonment." OK. But one thing they do is destroy the self esteem and age appropriate autonomy of their children. Because they never want them to grow into independent adults. They also isolate their children. That's diabolical and it happened to me. I learned a lot from the Reddit borderline group. Other people's experience were my own.

The first time I ever watched Mommy Dearest on TV was the first time I saw my mother's behavior from someone other than my mother. Though my mother was not as physically abusive, the verbal rages in that movie were light compared to my mother. Some people say the movie was kind of campy and the book is much better. I'm looking for a thrift store copy.

I think my mess of a brother is probably a narcissist. And he is absolutely a product of that house we grew up in. And he's very verbally abusive.
 

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