Do you actually believe the world is as intended in John 3:16,17. Is this is your idea of a saved world.
If you watch closely, there are a whole bunch of actors playing bit parts, most that eventually became more well know than the main stars. Well, maybe not more well known than Spencer Tracey, but more than any of the others. I've known about the Monkey Trial, but only that it occurred, and what it was about. If it lacked the same about of decorum, and was as chaotic, immaterial, and theatrical as the movie, then it was really a Monkey Trial, down to the end where some little kid jumps on the bench, bangs the gavel, and jumps off again, and little more. As a legal proceeding, it lends no credibility to our system of justice. Hollywood must have surely taken a great deal of liberty with reality to make that film. It reminded me of 2 hour long Saturday Night Live skit. It is what I imagine a whole bunch of judges and lawyers doing when they get drunk at a party and start acting silly. I did enjoy it, although it could have done with less shouting.
I have read your books, @Gaer! I agree with everything you say and believe that you were truly visited by angels. Not everyone is graced and blessed by God. All we can do is pray that they receive His grace.
Oh! You're the one? (haha)
I think the answer is conditional on which Christian you ask.
There is no 'eternal hell'
I'm asking in all seriousness, how to do equate “My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?” with a loving father when it sounds like the son lost faith in him?
Thank you I respect your input.
He lost His eternal life
I have pondered this many times. It does more harm to the Jesus myth than good.
It seems to me he just had a bad weekend.
I think the idea is that there are no true paragons of virtue, even the Mother Theresa types may secretly be very vain about their reputation as paragons or something else no one outside could see.
So, god is counting "original sin" in newborns and denies that people can be paragons of virtue without him? I don't think that is fair.
A plan for each individual is what I'm understanding from various posts. Then God monitors what each individual does for decision making purposes.
Nine human species walked the Earth 300,000 years ago. Now there is just one. The Neanderthals, Homo neanderthalensis, were stocky hunters adapted to Europe's cold steppes. The related Denisovans inhabited Asia, while the more primitive Homo erectus lived in Indonesia, and Homo rhodesiensis in central Africa. Several short, small-brained species survived alongside them: Homo naledi in South Africa, Homo luzonensis in the Philippines, Homo floresiensis ("hobbits") in Indonesia, and the mysterious Red Deer Cave People in China.
Yes, I agree. This line has bothered me so much I wish it had never been written. I wonder what the original Greek says, how it interprets that line, because it makes me feel that what happened on the cross was not the way Jesus thought it was going to play out.
Oh, but He did.
I still feel uncomfortable with it Gary. Feeling forsaken is one of the worst feelings there is. And why couldn't God just forgive everybody anyway? He's omnipotent? I can see why atheists and agnostics have trouble with all this. I have trouble too and I believe in God but have serious issues with things written in the bible.
