Gun Sales Soaring

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Don M.

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Something that is Not being mentioned in the news is the sharp rise in gun purchases....much of that being among first time gun owners. 2020 is seeing the sharpest rise is gun sales in the nations history. Between the violence taking place in many of the cities, and the reduction in support for the police, many people are preparing to have to defend themselves and their homes. Between this pandemic, and the senseless protests/riots, 2020 is a really bad year.

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2020/08/gun-sales-records-smashed-2020/
 

You're wrong @Don M.
Soaring gun sales HAS been reported many times... Washington Post, USA Today, New York Times to name a few.
Also on the news many times.
 

Bad scenario: people buying guns with no idea about safety or how to shoot.
applecruncher said:
You're wrong @Don M.
Soaring gun sales HAS been reported many times... Washington Post, USA Today, New York Times to name a few.
Also on the news many times.
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Very true. I have gone to the store many times when there was not a single box of ammo. The Hillary scare was a good. The military bought up al the 9mm ammo.
 
A spike in gun sales isn't news but drilling down to see who is buying them is.

From what I've read there has been a substantial increase in gun purchases by minorities who distrust law enforcement and feel a need to take responsibility for protecting themselves and their families as civil unrest around the country continues to grow.
 
Just have to live in a small city where, 95% of the time, the only siren heard is that of an ambulance...........not law enforcement. No police helicopter overhead at night, with a spotlight on an area.

Like where we live.
 
I have no problem with people arming their self, but it would be nice if first time gun owners would be required to take a safety course and that everyone would have to undergo a very intense background check

What happens many times over is that guns are sold privately and no checks ever happen. There is a lot that can be done to help secure gun control, but the lobbyists have paid both sides lots of money to their committees to prevent this from happening.
 
Where I live, there is now only a chief of police. No officers. They all had to quit per defunding, I guess.
it is necessary and a right to have arms to protect oneself and one's family, if they have one.
My hope is all the deaths from gun violence will not lead to gun restriction and gun confiscation.
I know I've said this before but WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE 2ND AMENDMENT!
If this topples, the 1st amendment will soon follow!
THIS CANNOT HAPPEN!

911 is right. I have a Colt S/A but I would like to take a gun safety course as I'm alone. That's a good idea!
I don't like what the NRA has become but they have the power to protect the 2nd amendment. I may join them just because of that.
 
The more these violent protests occur, and the less that the police are able to do to control this stupidity, the more that honest people will stand to lose. Hence, more are starting to take actions on their own. How this plays out, over time, is another potential problem for everyone.

Consider this....Yes, there have been a half dozen police related incidents that Must be investigated and resolved...and any cops involved punished accordingly. However, for every cop related killing of a Black, there are dozens or hundreds of cases where Blacks killed other Blacks....Where is the protest against this???

Also....Every year, dozens of police are killed by criminals while the police are attempting to arrest a criminal. Has anyone ever heard of a Protest occurring because a cop was killed by a thug????
 
911 said:
I have no problem with people arming their self, but it would be nice if first time gun owners would be required to take a safety course and that everyone would have to undergo a very intense background check

What happens many times over is that guns are sold privately and no checks ever happen. There is a lot that can be done to help secure gun control, but the lobbyists have paid both sides lots of money to their committees to prevent this from happening.
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"but it would be nice if first time gun owners would be required to take a safety course and that everyone would have to undergo a very intense background check"

The background check I support 100%........

But the safety course ? What does that actually mean ?

Anyone who owns a gun, and at some point, ... points that weapon at another person . Does so with the intention of inflicting harm/death. For whatever reason ? and at that point it's all about the person , his/her intention, his/her emotional state. How many actual , accidental gun deaths do we hear of ? [ discounting those that involve kids] I mean take it to the range a few times p/year , and a person will learn to operate/use it.

I am much more concerned with the mental/emotional state of "new" or "older" gun owners .

I could go out today and buy a big gun/little gun, and never use it against another person, unless they kick in that front door. But at one time I did know a man, that bragged about his collection, and his accuracy. But that same man tried to shoot down an airplane because he didn't like the banner it was towing. Point being, he knew everything there was to know about guns .... period ! ........ But on occasion he lost his sense of responsibility owning one ........ or in his case several.

With your law enforcement background, perhaps you know of more 'accidental' shootings than the rest of us.
 
applecruncher said:
No, he IS wrong.
Just because you personally haven't heard/seen something doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
The increase in gun sales and speculation about the reasons has been reported many times, for many months.
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Well since you are Carnak the magnificent then it must be true to life. I thank you for your all knowing wisdom, and appreciate the corrections.
 
Don M. said:
The more these violent protests occur, and the less that the police are able to do to control this stupidity, the more that honest people will stand to lose. Hence, more are starting to take actions on their own. How this plays out, over time, is another potential problem for everyone.

Consider this....Yes, there have been a half dozen police related incidents that Must be investigated and resolved...and any cops involved punished accordingly. However, for every cop related killing of a Black, there are dozens or hundreds of cases where Blacks killed other Blacks....Where is the protest against this???

Also....Every year, dozens of police are killed by criminals while the police are attempting to arrest a criminal. Has anyone ever heard of a Protest occurring because a cop was killed by a thug????
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My concern is for the cops that are being killed. At one time, if someone killed a cop, they would go on the run. Today, they just continue doing what they have been doing. When retired Captain David Dorn in St. Louis was killed while trying to protect his friend’s business, it really upset me. There was absolutely no reason to kill this man.

I believe a total of 11 officers have been killed that are riot related and over 400 injured. Not all police murders have seen suspects being arrested. Lack of respect for authority is prevailing in many large cities. It’s only a matter of time when these fascists move to the suburbs.
 
Aunt Bea said:
A spike in gun sales isn't news but drilling down to see who is buying them is.

From what I've read there has been a substantial increase in gun purchases by minorities who distrust law enforcement and feel a need to take responsibility for protecting themselves and their families as civil unrest around the country continues to grow.
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I fear we are morphing into two different countries, which will be at war with each other. In other words, Civil War II.
 
Gun laws in Britain are stricter than in America, but more and more people are carrying knives. There was a time when all men carried a sword, and a lady never went out without an armed man at her side. We seem to be going backwards!
I was recently accosted by a man for no reason (he was under the influence of something), and I now carry my walking stick with me when I go out. I don't need it for walking but it could prove useful as a weapon.
 
My concern is for the cops that are being killed.
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So, 911, this means you have no concern for the innocent people being killed on a daily basis by rogue cops?

My concern is for any innocent people being killed by trigger-happy maniacs, whether those maniacs are wearing a uniform or not.
 
rgp said:
"but it would be nice if first time gun owners would be required to take a safety course and that everyone would have to undergo a very intense background check"

The background check I support 100%........

But the safety course ? What does that actually mean ?

Anyone who owns a gun, and at some point, ... points that weapon at another person . Does so with the intention of inflicting harm/death. For whatever reason ? and at that point it's all about the person , his/her intention, his/her emotional state. How many actual , accidental gun deaths do we hear of ? [ discounting those that involve kids] I mean take it to the range a few times p/year , and a person will learn to operate/use it.

I am much more concerned with the mental/emotional state of "new" or "older" gun owners .

I could go out today and buy a big gun/little gun, and never use it against another person, unless they kick in that front door. But at one time I did know a man, that bragged about his collection, and his accuracy. But that same man tried to shoot down an airplane because he didn't like the banner it was towing. Point being, he knew everything there was to know about guns .... period ! ........ But on occasion he lost his sense of responsibility owning one ........ or in his case several.

With your law enforcement background, perhaps you know of more 'accidental' shootings than the rest of us.
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There’s a lot more to a safety course than you may realize. Have you ever taken one that was sanctioned and includes such things as; suicide prevention, domestic violence and keeping your guns safe, plus the safety part of the course? The course that we handle here in our area lasts about 4-4 1/2 hours. It’s pretty deep, but when the person leaves, they take with them a wealth of information and handouts.

My advice to everyone that takes a gun safety course is to always take a course that includes the things that I mentioned and to make sure to only take a course with fewer people, say no more than 6 people in the class, at least for the range part where you actually get to shoot your gun. There is too much chance of a mistake happening with too many people at the range.
 
I totally support those that own weapons. the police cannot be everywhere at once. BUT if you have not trained with weapon use, you can be a danger to yourself and loved ones around you. Learn how to use your weapon, practice and use common sense, not using common sense can get you killed or someone close by.
There are a few things you can do to make you and yours less attractive.
Cameras, they work wonders and are cheaper than a gun. I have dogs, no one gets too close without them knowing.
First rule, pay very close attention to what is going on around you. If something is building...get out.
 
911 said:
There’s a lot more to a safety course than you may realize. Have you ever taken one that was sanctioned and includes such things as; suicide prevention, domestic violence and keeping your guns safe, plus the safety part of the course? The course that we handle here in our area lasts about 4-4 1/2 hours. It’s pretty deep, but when the person leaves, they take with them a wealth of information and handouts.

My advice to everyone that takes a gun safety course is to always take a course that includes the things that I mentioned and to make sure to only take a course with fewer people, say no more than 6 people in the class, at least for the range part where you actually get to shoot your gun. There is too much chance of a mistake happening with too many people at the range.
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911: Who do I contact for a gun safety course? a University? sheriff's dept? Police? NRA?
 

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