Hezbollah pagers(not cell phones) explode after an apparent Israeli hack

Murrmurr said:
Stated: odiocracy knows no boundaries. In simpler terms, idiots are everywhere.
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OMG, that's accountancy for you, perfectly correct but useless information.
After reading post #123 I'm at a loss to see where you're coming from. The use of superlatives rarely does anyone any favours.
 

Rakaia said:
OMG, that's accountancy for you, perfectly correct but useless information.
After reading post #123 I'm at a loss to see where you're coming from. The use of superlatives rarely does anyone any favours.
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You'd have to read the exchanges between me and Debrah to know what I was on about in that post.

Which superlatives are you struggling with?
 
Murrmurr said:
You'd have to read the exchanges between me and Debrah to know what I was on about in that post.

Which superlatives are you struggling with?
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I've read your posts and I don't get your reasoning and logic.
Palestine and the Palestinians predate WW2, fact
As for your scenario about every American wanting every Canadian dead. Ridiculous!

@Debrah N.
I have read The General's Son, and found it very interesting.
 

Rakaia said:
I've read your posts and I don't get your reasoning and logic.
Palestine and the Palestinians predate WW2, fact
As for your scenario about every American wanting every Canadian dead. Ridiculous!
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Yes, Palestine predates WWII. It was named by the Roman Empire after its army conquered that region.

The people who currently call themselves Palestinians do not predate WWII. They were Arabs living primarily in Egypt, Yemen, and Jordan who were extremely angry that the state of Israel was created for the Jewish people, most of whom were displaced by WWII.

Before there was an Israel, the term Palestinian referred to any person born in or living in Rome's Palestine no matter what their ethnicity, culture, language, or religion was. In the late 1800s, Arabic-speaking people living in Palestine called themselves "Palestinian" as an endonym of self-identification.

During the British Mandate, the term referred to any person legally considered to be a citizen of Mandatory Palestine as defined in the 1925 Citizenship Order. That Order remained in effect until May 1948, when the British withdrew from the Mandate, Israel was formed, and citizens of Palestine became citizens of Israel.

By the mid-1950s, the term Palestinian shifted to being a demonym that exclusively referred to the Arabs of former Mandatory Palestine who not only did not want to be known as citizens of Israel, many wanted all the Jewish citizens of Israel to die and for the state of Israel to be scrubbed from the map.

(I tried to use just the right amount of superlatives. Hope I did ok)
 
Rakaia said:
As for your scenario about every American wanting every Canadian dead. Ridiculous!
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Calm down; it was a scenario. Didn't you get it? Two neighboring countries, all the people of one country want all the people of the other country to die. I didn't think it was at all complicated, and there's a perfect example in the middle east.
 
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Murrmurr said:
Calm down; it was a scenario. Didn't you get it? Two neighboring countries, all the people of one country wants all the people of the other country to die. I didn't think it was at all complicated, and there's a perfect example in the middle east.
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Bwahaha, 'calm down'.
You are clearly invested in this debacle, your view appears to be distorted and one sided. I have little interest in the affairs of the middle east, not my circus and certainly not my monkeys.
 
Unless someone lives in that area, it’s probably not a good idea to choose or pick sides. Most of the countries in that region have arguably good reasons for what they do to protect their freedom, property or rights.

I prefer to take a backseat and let them fight it out because that’s what they have been doing for over 2000 years and no one has been able to get the sides to come together.

I have several Jewish friends and of course they are pro Israel. They can go on and on for a few hours over coffee. In fact, when I go to my one friend’s home, I expect to get a lecture starting back in B.C. to present. He goes on and on. I have to ask him, can we please talk about something else and continue this conversation the next time we get together? He goes, “OK, but one last point.” And then that takes another 15 minutes. I have made it a point not to visit him not too often.
 
We have a wonderful community...HUGE community of Jewish people living in North London mainly Golders Green and Barnet...the largest concentration of orthodox jews are in Stamford hill... 150,000 jews in London alone which is more than 1/2 of the whole popualtion of Jewsish for the entire country...
Even some of the orthodox jewish mix with non Jewish.. for entertainment.. like boating for example..

I have had Liberal jews as friends but aside from that no... but because the Jewsih here in North London are all friendly, or it seems so to me as an outsider.. I was shocked when this war started, and there was 10 times the mount of support for Palestine as there was for the jewish... the Jewish here going about their normal business, for the first time in my life.. that I've known about, were being attacked in the street by random strangers and it;s continuing even today... Old men being punched in the head by someone cycling past...young women having their hats knocked off by a passing stranger..

I'm appalled and actually, truthfully don't understand it..
 
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hollydolly said:
We have a wonderful community...HUGE community of Jewish people living in North London mainly Golders Green and Barnet...the largest concentration of orthodox jews are in Stamford hill... 150,000 jews in London alone which is more than 1/2 of the whole popualtion of Jewsish for the entire country...
Even some of the orthodox jewish mix with non Jewish.. for entertainment.. like boating for example..

I have had Luberal jews as friends but aside from that no... but because the Jewsih here in North London are all friendly, or it seems so to me as an outsider.. I was shocked when this war started, and there was 10 times the mount of syupport for Palestine as there was for the jewish... the Jewish here going about their normal business, for the first time in my life.. that I've known about, were being attacked in the street by random strangers and it;s continuing even today... Old men being punched in the head by someone cycling past...young women having their hats knocked off by a passing stranger..

I'm appalled and actually, truthfully don't understand it..
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Media influence. The media seems hell-bent on creating divisiveness, and doesn't miss an opportunity.
 
That is another weird and deep instinct we have. We want to watch when people are fighting each other. I like to watch MMA fighting. It is brutal but they keep it as safe as possible. So I think no one gets hurt and am excited about who I think will win. Some people can't stand to watch people fight, but it seems to always draw our attention. :unsure:
 
Paco Dennis said:
That is another weird and deep instinct we have. We want to watch when people are fighting each other. I like to watch MMA fighting. It is brutal but they keep it as safe as possible. So I think no one gets hurt and am excited about who I think will win. Some people can't stand to watch people fight, but it seems to always draw our attention. :unsure:
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If a war somewhere on the planet effects our own country, as a potential military threat or a threat to our economy or our security or way of life, we pay attention ...mainly because it's in the news and on our politician's lips.

But wars and conflicts going on in obscure places our own country isn't connected to geographically, geopolitically, or economically, no matter how bloody or unjust and no matter how many civilians starve and die because of them, are often ignored. We sometimes don't even know they're happening.
 
Murrmurr said:
Media influence. The media seems hell-bent on creating divisiveness, and doesn't miss an opportunity.
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In the US, watching the media would give one the notion that support for Palestine was overwhelming. Now a year later, our politicians give lip service to Palestine, because they want that vote, but our military support is exclusively to Israel, because that vote is far bigger. You wouldn't know that when the protests on campus were being reported by the media , however. The middle road for US leadership is to claim it is trying to broker a peace, while fully understanding peace is unobtainable.
 
JustDave said:
In the US, watching the media would give one the notion that support for Palestine was overwhelming. Now a year later, our politicians give lip service to Palestine, because they want that vote, but our military support is exclusively to Israel, because that vote is far bigger. You wouldn't know that when the protests on campus were being reported by the media , however. The middle road for US leadership is to claim it is trying to broker a peace, while fully understanding peace is unobtainable.
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Precisely. And it's making Americans crazy at best, but mostly stupid.
 
JustDave said:
In the US, watching the media would give one the notion that support for Palestine was overwhelming. Now a year later, our politicians give lip service to Palestine, because they want that vote, but our military support is exclusively to Israel, because that vote is far bigger. You wouldn't know that when the protests on campus were being reported by the media , however. The middle road for US leadership is to claim it is trying to broker a peace, while fully understanding peace is unobtainable.
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I don't know what media you're referring to, but I've seen pretty fair reporting on the conflict/war. They report on the destruction from the 2,000lb bombs that Israel is using to obliterate entire neighborhoods, but they also mention that Hezbollah/Hamas are still firing missiles into Israel. It doesn't seem like they're taking sides. A lot of the opinion pieces are taking an anti-Israel stance, so maybe that's what you're referring to.
 
HermitHogan said:
I don't know what media you're referring to, but I've seen pretty fair reporting on the conflict/war. They report on the destruction from the 2,000lb bombs that Israel is using to obliterate entire neighborhoods, but they also mention that Hezbollah/Hamas are still firing missiles into Israel. It doesn't seem like they're taking sides. A lot of the opinion pieces are taking an anti-Israel stance, so maybe that's what you're referring to.
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A problem in the US, and elsewhere, no doubt, is that opinion pieces are presented as news. They're barely distinguishable from news reports. (referring to televised reports)
 

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