Hoping everything goes well, hollydolly!

Hospitals rarely make sense to me. For example, when I was in the hospital in 2023 with Covid, they had me in an isolation room with this massive fan sucking all the air out the window, everyone that came into my room for over two weeks was dressed like a storm trooper, and when they came to get me to go "say goodbye" to Cindy, they just wheeled me into her room, no mask, no gloves, no storm trooper suit... Nothing. Then they took me back to my room and I was back in solitary again.

The call button didn't work so if I needed a Nurse I had to wait for one to come in. This one Nurse or CNA (I don't know) came in to give me a bath, and left the side rail down and said "I'll be right back, don't move", then didn't come back. Afterwards I fell asleep and I slid out of the bed and ended up on the floor. I tried the useless call button, I tried yelling for a Nurse, I tried throwing anything within reach at the door. I laid there for two hours before anyone came in. I asked to speak to the Charge Nurse, and when she came in I read her the riot act.

When my daughter came to visit, I had her pick me up one of those compressed air horns. Damn, that thing was loud, but it got their attention.

So I hear ya and can relate to your anger, hollydolly. However, I'm glad you make it through the ordeal.
 

Jules said:
Do your best to contact the surgeon and explain what happened and why the new date offered is not possible. He told you this needs to be done now. He may have a way to get an earlier date. He’s your best hope.
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yep...but sadly as he's predominatey a Private surgeon doing one day a week for the NHS ..hence the massive amount of people with appointments for the same day at the NHS hospital..I doubt if he'd have any sway with just one patient.. however the sad thing I know for sure if I went to him as a private patient if I rung his secretary tomorrow.. I'd have the surgery within a week...
 
Axel Slingerland said:
Hospitals rarely make sense to me. For example, when I was in the hospital in 2023 with Covid, they had me in an isolation room with this massive fan sucking all the air out the window, everyone that came into my room for over two weeks was dressed like a storm trooper, and when they came to get me to go "say goodbye" to Cindy, they just wheeled me into her room, no mask, no gloves, no storm trooper suit... Nothing. Then they took me back to my room and I was back in solitary again.

The call button didn't work so if I needed a Nurse I had to wait for one to come in. This one Nurse or CNA (I don't know) came in to give me a bath, and left the side rail down and said "I'll be right back, don't move", then didn't come back. Afterwards I fell asleep and I slid out of the bed and ended up on the floor. I tried the useless call button, I tried yelling for a Nurse, I tried throwing anything within reach at the door. I laid there for two hours before anyone came in. I asked to speak to the Charge Nurse, and when she came in I read her the riot act.

When my daughter came to visit, I had her pick me up one of those compressed air horns. Damn, that thing was loud, but it got their attention.

So I hear ya and can relate to your anger, hollydolly. However, I'm glad you make it through the ordeal.
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this is awful...devastating... ^^^ 😔😟


..s.adly my ordeal is not over I have to go through it all again at some point...
 

Really sorry it went like that, Holly. The NHS is dreadful at the moment & to think how they lauded it at the Olympics, we all clapped in Covid & Reeves doles out pay rises .
Regarding going to another hospital next time, I expect you know this, but you can choose which hospital you want now, even a private hospital paid for by the NHS?
I know this as a couple of years ago my GP referred me for surgery . The GP’s receptionist, who booked it while I was there, showed me a list with dates at the hospitals round about that I could opt for. It was she who advised me to pick the local Nuffield one, as she’d recently been in there, could have the op there on the NHS. I did & it was SO much better than the local hospital. Private en-suite room, everything on time, even a lovely meal brought when I was able to eat again after the surgery. So ask if you can do that, it’s so much better than the third world we get now in the main hospitals.
It didn’t cost anything, all on the NHS as if I’d been in the local.
 
Holly, do you have volunteer drivers? we do have them here and would give the driver a donation, gas is not cheap. Although there is a hospital not too far from here, our emergency room only runs during the day, closed at night. The nearest hospital is 22kms , hwy driving fighting the ferry traffic, and with only 2 lanes each way. I hope you get your surgery date soon so that you will be able to enjoy your spring and your garden. 🙏
 
RobinWren said:
Holly, do you have volunteer drivers? we do have them here and would give the driver a donation, gas is not cheap. Although there is a hospital not too far from here, our emergency room only runs during the day, closed at night. The nearest hospital is 22kms , hwy driving fighting the ferry traffic, and with only 2 lanes each way. I hope you get your surgery date soon so that you will be able to enjoy your spring and your garden. 🙏
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No sadly..no volunteer drivers. This is the drawback of living in a little country town... if I lived in the city lots would be available to me
 
Remy said:
@hollydolly I've read through and this is shocking. I'm so sorry you were treated like this. It's wrong and dehumanizing. You should have been profusely apologized to at the very least. Medical has lost it's humanity.
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they won't apologise, because it's not just happening to me it's happening to millions of people.. people have died needlessly because of the way the NHS is now.. thousands of people, and their families don't get apologies..it's pretty horrendous...
 
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It would seem Surgery in England has become a wait and wait some more game for the ones needing it.
Double down on what cha have to do, is my thoughts. Most likely your lawyer (whatever English law calls those poc.)
So kick your king in his Arss! If your king takes up this problem and addresses his Lords and Commons with get it
right for my beloved subjects then it will get done.
 
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papa tiger said:
It would seem Surgeriy in England has become a wait and wait some more game for the ones needing it.
Double down on what cha have to do, is my thoughts. Most likely your lawyer (whatever English law calls those poc.)
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NO..not just England the whole of the uk ..no-one would get far appointing a lawyer aganst the nHS, thousands of people have tried , unless some dreadful preventative obvious deaths occurred... and even then it would take years to get it to court... but my complaint is nothing compared to how others have been treated...
 
I've only just come up to speed on the subject of your ordeal with the NHS. I am hoping that things will be much better for you next time, and that you can be admitted sooner than later.

Have you thought of writing a letter to your local member of the Commons, with a cc to the Minister for Health or vice versa? Make a fuss, not just for yourself, but for all the poor sods who suffer in the same way, i.e. from indifference when what they need is, at the very least, some empathy and consideration.

Be the squeaky wheel that demands attention.
 
Well it's just afer 11am, I just had a call from the hospital saying mr Consultant has vacancies for next Friday. I turned it down..I told his secretary I'm still too scarred afer 2 days ago, and I don't want to potentially go through all that again so soon...

She's made another appointment for March.. and she said on the March date he's only operating in the morning, so even if it does get cancelled I won't be there all day before they tell me ...however she said she's going to put all my fears and concerns to Mr Consultant and explain that I'm afraid that's going to happen again...and hopefully he'll ensure it won't...

Honestly if this wasn't a potentially life threatening problem, I would just cancel this surgery completely...
 
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RobinWren said:
Holly, do you have volunteer drivers? we do have them here and would give the driver a donation, gas is not cheap. Although there is a hospital not too far from here, our emergency room only runs during the day, closed at night. The nearest hospital is 22kms , hwy driving fighting the ferry traffic, and with only 2 lanes each way. I hope you get your surgery date soon so that you will be able to enjoy your spring and your garden. 🙏
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Volunteer drivers is a great idea! I'm not sure we have those here... Hopefully, something like that can workout for Hollydolly.
 
hollydolly said:
Well it's just afer 11am, I just had a call from the hospital saying mr Consultant has vacancies for next Friday. I turned it down..I told his secretary I'm still too scarred afer 2 days ago, and I don't want to potentially go through all that again so soon...

She's made another appointment for March.. and she said on the March date he's only operating in the morning, so even if it does get cancelled I won't be there all day before they tell me ...however she said she's going to put all my fears and concerns to Mr Consultant and explain that I'm afraid that's going to happen again...and hopefully he'll ensure it won't...

Honestly if this wasn't a potentially life threatening problem, I would just cancel this surgery completely...
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Good thoughts for your March appt. :)
 
My God, Holly, I'm so sorry to hear that you are ill, and that you had that awful experience! I had no idea. There must be a better alternative hospital, though doing that kind of research is probably the last thing you feel like doing now.

You've got lots of support from all of us here, and tons of good wishes. 👩‍❤️‍👨
 
My only bad experience (and it wasn't THAT bad) with a hospital was my gallbladder surgery last century (doesn't that just sound like a looong time ago, but it wasn't....).

I was supposed to be there at 7 a.m., in by 8 a.m. and discharged by 4 p.m. I was there by 7 but didn't have surgery until after 4 p.m. Since it was so late, I didn't get to go home and spent the night there. I hadn't even brought a toothbrush.

The next day, they said that I'd be discharged as soon as the doctor made rounds and released me, but that I couldn't go home until that happens. At 5 p.m., having never seen hide nor hair of the doctor, they said that I could go home.

It was pretty boring.
 
Sunny said:
My God, Holly, I'm so sorry to hear that you are ill, and that you had that awful experience! I had no idea. There must be a better alternative hospital, though doing that kind of research is probably the last thing you feel like doing now.

You've got lots of support from all of us here, and tons of good wishes. 👩‍❤️‍👨
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thank you Sunny.. xx... however with regard a better hospital the only way I'd get that is to pay privately.. I've looked into it, and it will take all my savings.. so I can't do it sadly...
 
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do you know what..I heard that at least 3 times in the waiting room before we were called into the ward bays.. people saying just how much this has become like a 3rd world country..even the cab driver said it and he was Romanian

he said when he was growing up, he'd watch films on tv and want to go to the UK because everything was so lovely and the people were so nice.. he said he's been here 9 years now and wants to go home because of the way the country has now become..nothing like his childhood dreams
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Yes, it seems that meanwhile the conditions in countries like Romania are much better as in Great Britain. But I don't know if the corruption in GB is at Romanian level too.
 
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Yes, it seems that meanwhile the conditions in countries like Romania are much better as in Great Britain. But I don't know if the corruption in GB is at Romanian level too.
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Oh no...thankfully as of yet the corruption in the UK is nowhere near the level of some Eastern European countries..ooh good lord, that would be horrendous.. in Spain as well it's horrible.. all at Governement level..

However apparently the medical , hospital treatment is much better. My tenant neighbours next door are Romanian, and he said to me to go out to Romania and have my surgery done, I'd get a better treatment..

I told him I would if I could.. but stories that we read in the media abut people receiving botched cosmetic surgery in those countries, especially places like Turkey and Prague, doesn't really instill a lot of faith in their health servce... I know the 2 are seperate, but even so...
 
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When I got dressed, pulled back the curtain and this was next to me.. no reason for that curtain to have been pulled over basically cutting off all of my view

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I'm just catching up on your ordeal....I have no words to describe how angry I am that you had to go through all of this!!!
 
In todays paper one f out TV presenters, who presents an antique show.. has had a similar experience to me ....sadly he died...at 65

In the article in the paper today it said quote ''....

Flog It! star Michael Baggott complained about the level of care he received on the crisis-hit NHS just weeks before his death — saying he was left 'badly dehydrated' and 'dying of thirst'.

The BBC antiques expert, 51, yesterday passed away following a heart attack, a statement posted on his social media confirmed on Monday evening.

Baggott had previously been left bedbound for weeks after suffering a suspected stroke last October.

The NHS has come under increasing pressure from patients and politicians this winter over 'unacceptably' poor care Brits have received.

Elderly patients have told how they have been abandoned in corridors for hours.

Damning research also recently suggested more than 57,000 patients died last year as a result of waiting over 12 hours in A&E.

In December, the antiques expert Mr Baggott took to social media where he catalogued the poor care he claimed to have received whilst undergoing treatment at the Good Hope Hospital in Birmingham.

In a worrying series of clips posed to his X account at the time, he claimed he had hardly been given any water by mouth and was 'dying of thirst'.
Filming himself, he told fans: 'It's been a week now and I've been able to take fluids for two days. I was left without any water at all and have become badly dehydrated.
'The gaps between being given water have been 15 hours, 17 hours with no water, 12 hours with no water and currently 15 hours with no water intravenous.'

He added: 'I'm dying of thirst in a British NHS hospital and no one seems prepared to do anything about it.' While this was never confirmed, there could have been medical reasons why he wasn't being given lots of water, such as inability to swallow and danger of choking.

'I want to say the nursing staff, the junior doctors here, have been the saving grace. They all want to help but they can't. The senior management and the senior doctors, who I never see, always refuse water, always refuse treatment.



NHS ordeal of Flog It! star Michael Baggott as he dies aged 65
 

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