How are we different ?

Our differences in these type of situations are our strengths. Learn what they are and share them with each other to save us all. Our humanity is what makes us the same under the skin and when we save ourselves we're saving our sisters and brothers all.
 
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Olivia said:
Our differences in these type of situations are our strengths. Learn what they are and share them with each other to save us all. Our humanity is what makes us the same under the skin and when we save ourselves we're saving our sisters and brothers all.
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I like the way you say this. It reminds me of our common ancestry. We are actual brothers and sisters. Family. Some of us are estranged from our family members just as it is with many of us regarding our ancestry. What happens when we see other groups or races as being different than us? I have a fear that what is going to happen is we will become so territorial that our Governments will become police driven. Authoritarian laws will keep people separated.
 

Warrigal said:
In a word, mateship.

In the 1800s Australians were very much up against the elements on a very large and unfamiliar island. They survived by forming small groups with a few people they could trust to have their backs when needed. This was very evident on the gold fields and also later in the POW camps under the harsh conditions imposed by the Japanese. As if by instinct young Australians stranded in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina gravitated together and protected each other. Conditions inside the stadium was pretty much law of the jungle and survival of the strongest but there is strength to be found in coming together in tough times.

We call it mateship.
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what's mateship?
 
the whole point of this discussion is to point out that we are all human, all have the same feelings, all want the same things, all want to live life to the fullest, raise and protect our families and pass on what we know, understand and gained in our lives to those we love and care for. Politics and cultures aside...........................................we are all the same.
 
Paco Dennis said:
I like the way you say this. It reminds me of our common ancestry. We are actual brothers and sisters. Family. Some of us are estranged from our family members just as it is with many of us regarding our ancestry. What happens when we see other groups or races as being different than us? I have a fear that what is going to happen is we will become so territorial that our Governments will become police driven. Authoritarian laws will keep people separated.
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screw the politics.
They can never determine, evaluate or understand
 
rbtvgo said:
what's mateship?
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Sticking together in hard times. Looking after each other and watching each other's backs.
It is essentially a term that applies just to men, especially men who find themselves in perilous conditions.
It was one of the reasons why Australian POWs of the Japanese had better survival rates than the British.
Mateship is classless. The Australian officers were not aloof from the non coms and private soldiers.
 
We don't know each other yet we do. We pass as strangers and yet we are not. We don't know each others names but we know each other regardless.
We offer thank you for the door being held open for us and we pause in driving to allow the pedestrians to pass. We consider each other on a normal day. Think about it.
 
rbtvgo said:
screw the politics.
They can never determine, evaluate or understand
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We can't throw out politics. It determines how our culture is designed. That is our human responsibility, to be interested in the welfare of our neighbors. The trouble comes from forgetting that we are brothers and sisters and start listening to the nonsense in our heads about propaganda against our friends. Then the feuding starts, and we lose control and act like a two year old having a tantrum. :) Really, Politics are very important, but they should never chip away our love for each other. IMO
 
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No you're not.
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@Mr. Ed saying he is indifferent is a bold statement. It means non-judgmental. Isn't that true love, to let others live their lives without others wanting it to be some way they think is right? It is freedom to be non-judgmental. @Olivia Now I don't think Mr. Ed is always indifferent. I think you have to be dead before you become always indifferent. But, but thanks to Ed for reminding me that my way of life is not for everybody, because everyone is the same, we want the freedom to be different. :)
 
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@Mr. Ed saying he is indifferent is a bold statement. It means non-judgmental. Isn't that true love, to let others live their lives without others wanting it to be some way they think is right? It is freedom to be non-judgmental. @Olivia Now I don't think Mr. Ed is always indifferent. I think you have to be dead before you become always indifferent. But, but thanks to Ed for reminding me that my way of life is not for everybody, because everyone is the same, we want the freedom to be different. :)
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How l responded to Ed's'post was not a criticism but yes it was a judgement in that it strikes me after all this time that Ed is not an indifferent person. Quite the opposite, Ed cares about what he thinks and believes and he cares about people knowing those things about him. I agree with what you wrote and l could have and should have explained myself right then and there.

In the end words are all we have so we should be careful about how we use them.
 
This is a no brainer for me. I was brought up that you treat everyone nicely as long as they are nice to you. So I would get along with anyone as long as they were nice to me on a desert island. However, there have always been morons, so I expect that you could expect to have one bad apple who would not cooperate.
 
Olivia said:
How l responded to Ed's'post was not a criticism but yes it was a judgement in that it strikes me after all this time that Ed is not an indifferent person. Quite the opposite, Ed cares about what he thinks and believes and he cares about people knowing those things about him. I agree with what you wrote and l could have and should have explained myself right then and there.

In the end words are all we have so we should be careful about how we use them.
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I agree. Words are very important. When trying to craft a cogent response to such a generalized question, is almost impossible. Millions of words have been used to try to describe the human condition. How can we possibly craft a totally comprehensive response toto a question that is so huge?
 
How are we different..............Culture, upbringing with our particular parents. Life experience's s we grow up with and more.
Cultural, yes, religion, yes, basic human concerns.....................no.
We are basically the same, believe it or not.
I find that interesting/.
 
rbtvgo said:
I find your commence interesting. Technology today is much improved over yesterday no doubt but that does not negate my point. The only place I know where all activities go according to plans is in a Tom Clancy Novel.
Life has a course of it's own. Suppose the Plane captain is dead? Who takes charge?
Of course you take care of the wounded first. Now what? Find shelter, find food.....all you have is each other. Race, color don't matter now. Just human beings trying to survive.
No doubt the modern technology will provide help to your location, but how long till it does? 2 hours, 4 hours, 24,48, 1 week, 2?
Believe me military or civilian doesn't matter. Experience like we are talking about produces the same memories to all.
The whole idea was to express the fact that all our differences fade away when we need each other.
How come the differences are so important when we feel we don't need each other?
rbtvgo
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I realize that you're probing for a simple answer here, but unfortunately, I don't think there is any clear-cut outcome. We are all individuals with different personalities, so it all comes down to who's on the plane. Some people are very independent, and don't do well in groups. They prefer the "To each his own", and look out for number one mentality. Those who are more dependent and have empathy and compassion would likely lean towards cooperation.

Overall, evolution has demonstrated that most animals (Including humans) prefer to group together because there is safety in numbers and cooperation and collaboration can make use of each other's skills. It can get a bit lonely when it's each one to themselves.

Many TV shows and movies have been made using this theme, but Gilligan's Island, and Lost are not real life. Again, I think it matters who's on the plane, but when people share a common goal, I think most would try to overcome their differences. There would be disagreements and differences, but hopefully they would find solutions. Most Native Americans could have lived wherever they chose to, but most still preferred tribes.
 
rbtvgo said:
...It,s amazing how we get along when we respect one another. Why can't we do that all the time? bob
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So, the actual agenda of your OP Loaded Question.

Why? Because life is vastly more complex than such a single life and death scenario with complexities that don't bear on survival but rather each of our primary personal goals that vary enormously. Also as personal freedoms and an interconnected technology world increase, so do those differences.

That is why I tend to disagree so much with dominant materialist money oriented people that tend to look at the world as an individualist wealth and mating game, often at dog eat dog levels. And such has always existed since civilizations evolved 8 millennia ago.
 
rbtvgo said:
Suppose we were all on airline going somewhere, maybe west. we crash and the closes land is an uninhabited island. How long would it take before all the differences disappeared and we all worked together ???? This is one thing that sticks in the mind of people who served their country. There was a monument in their lives when all that matter was the person next to them. They never forget that.
So how are we different? and how are we the same?
rbtvgo
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That is a wonderful post! Might it have something to do with a growing tolerance of others? When I studied gerontology, I was very excited by the effect of an aging population on the whole of our civilization. I think especially men are improved by life experience. Your experience could be a positive factor in social change.
 
HermitHogan said:
In most groups, there's a fight for power, or we choose someone to be in charge. There will be some who work harder than others. Some will want a free ride. It's just human nature.
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I think culture makes a big difference. The Apache are known to be good warriors and the Hopi are known for being peaceful and humble. Cannibals raise their young for combat, and like the Apache, that means harsh child-rearing practices. A peaceful society begins with the gentle nurturing of children and a focus on sharing and cooperating.


Peaceful societies are not utopian fantasy. They exist.
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Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
https://thebulletin.org › Nuclear Risk › Nuclear Weapons
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“Peace systems” are clusters of neighboring societies that do not make war with each other and sometimes not at all. That means some peace systems are ...
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That means the Biblical explanation of our sin is an error that is not supported by research and a most unfortunate part of our lives as we war because we value warring and even believe a God wills to war.
 

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