How do you feel about abortion?

My, my, I agree, like freedom of speech, choice is paramount...:cool:
 

Yes, and that certainly applied to the draft in my youth, nobody thought of going to Canada in those days...
 

When I become a 16 year old poverty stricken pregnant girl, I will have an opinion that worth listening to!
As I am likely to remain an elderly middle class white guy,I have no basis on which to form a valid opinion.
Suffice to say if the RTL party endorses your candidacy ,you will not be receiving my vote,no matter how attractive you may be otherwise.
 
Debby said:
Do you remember when that woman Sherry Shepherd used to be on the View? I believe she has admitted to 'more abortions than she would like to count' and somewhere I've heard the number being seven, which would suggest that some women do use abortions as a birth control method.
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:rolleyes:
Sherri Shepherd is an idiot. I remember her flapping has jaws about all her abortions and about a lot of other nonsense that she would have been better off not talking about. She is hardly representative of......well, anybody or anything.
 
applecruncher said:
:rolleyes:
Sherri Shepherd is an idiot. I remember her flapping has jaws about all her abortions and about a lot of other nonsense that she would have been better off not talking about. She is hardly representative of......well, anybody or anything.
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What is unfortunate is that she gives the fuel for the anti-choice crowd... who will hold her up as an example, when she is hardly representative of the vast majority of women. She just needs to STFU.
 
QuickSilver said:
I feel the same as I've always felt.. It's a legal procedure.. and should be only between a woman and her doctor. I also feel that it there should be no questions asked up until the time of viability. After that only to protect the life of the Mother or to alleviate the pain of carrying a nonviable or dead fetus.. Late term abortions are so incredibly rare anyway unless for that reason. To hear the Right talk, thousands of 7 and 8 month pregnant women are waddling into an abortion clinic and saying "Dang! I knew there was something I was meaning to do.. but just didn't get around to it until now".... That is ridiculous.
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QS I just saw on a news program (sorry, but don't have a good cite) that less than 1.5 percent of abortions are late term, and of those the vast majority are of those are undertaken because of something terribly wrong with the fetus that wasn't discovered until late in the pregnancy. Additionally, there are VERY few clinics in the US that actually DO late term abortion (only a handful, less than 5), they are very expensive, and even at those clinics who do, doctors don't just agree to do them on someone who walks in and says "I've decided I don't want this baby." SO, as you said, the Right is greatly exaggerating the number of these that are actually occurring.
 
Butterfly said:
QS I just saw on a news program (sorry, but don't have a good cite) that less than 1.5 percent of abortions are late term, and of those the vast majority are of those are undertaken because of something terribly wrong with the fetus that wasn't discovered until late in the pregnancy. Additionally, there are VERY few clinics in the US that actually DO late term abortion (only a handful, less than 5), they are very expensive, and even at those clinics who do, doctors don't just agree to do them on someone who walks in and says "I've decided I don't want this baby." SO, as you said, the Right is greatly exaggerating the number of these that are actually occurring.
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Yes.. this is true... but that doesn't make good press for the anti-choice crowd.. They don't want abortion at ANY stage of pregnancy to be legal.. so to make people think there are lines of women with viable normal babies having them diced up and extracted makes their case so much more intense. When.. it simply isn't true. Like anything else, one can site one or two cases of women abusing the right... Like Sherri Shephard and make it seem like hoards of women are having monthy abortions, when it simply isn't happening.

The fact remains... although some of our male lawmakers haven't caught on.... that women are really pretty savvy on pregnancy... We understand our bodies... we understand what it means to be pregnant and we really DO know what an abortion does.. We also know about birth control and how to prevent pregnancy, but sometimes despite all precautions, things fail and we become pregnant.or we are raped, or the baby not viable. It insults he holy hell out of me to have male legislators imply that we are all a bunch of morons who have no ability to get a grasp on this whole process. It's so completely condescending that it makes me sick.
 
QuickSilver said:
Oh well then.... since SHERRY SHEPHERD is irresponisble.... let's take the choice away from ALL women.. makes perfect sense.. May I ask why it's anyone's business what Sherry Shepherd did? OR why you even care?
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Did I say take 'choice' away? No. I simply replied to your statement that no one uses abortion as a birth control method. And frankly, if there's one, there's more. And if Ms. Shepherd goes public with that info, then it's there to quote in a discussion.
 
Debby said:
Did I say take 'choice' away? No. I simply replied to your statement that no one uses abortion as a birth control method. And frankly, if there's one, there's more. And if Ms. Shepherd goes public with that info, then it's there to quote in a discussion.
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So then what point was there to bring up Sherry Shepherd? She is hardly the norm is she.
 
Shalimar said:
We women tend to get grumpy when a man attempts to tell us what to do with our bodies. Honestly, are you really a Canadian? Please say it isn't so. Lol. I assure you, my American, British, and Australian friends, this individual does not reflect the opinions held by the majority of Canucks. I suspect we may have a troll in our midst. Call out the dogs, Jim, lol.
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He's entitled to hold a different opinion and I think deserves the same respect that we would ask for if our opinions didn't match up with everyone else's.

As a matter of fact, I used to be actively against all abortion but that changed (with exceptions) when I found out that prior to about 24-26 weeks, the nervous system isn't functional. My original fear was that there would be horrendous pain and suffering involved. But apparently that isn't the case until you get past the point when the nervous system is functional. So early abortions, if needed, but late term, no.
 
Debby said:
He's entitled to hold a different opinion and I think deserves the same respect that we would ask for if our opinions didn't match up with everyone else's.
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That's true... but since it's a discussion forum, how do we let you know when you opinions are wrong? lol!
 
QuickSilver said:
So then what point was there to bring up Sherry Shepherd? She is hardly the norm is she.
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Because you said 'nobody uses it as a birth control' and because even just one person shows that statement is incorrect. And because I used it as a birth control method once but it was in the first few weeks.


Qhote= 'That's true... but since it's a discussion forum, how do we let you know when you opinions are wrong? lol!' We can disagree politely and not get hostile.
 
Debby said:
Because you said 'nobody uses it as a birth control' and because even just one person shows that statement is incorrect. And because I used it as a birth control method once but it was in the first few weeks.


'That's true... but since it's a discussion forum, how do we let you know when you opinions are wrong? lol!' We can disagree politely and not get hostile.
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Seriously Debby.. You have not seen me hostile.
 
Shalimar said:
Debby, I believe he was banned for being rude to members, something quite different.
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Glad to hear that it was a personality issue because if it was a difference of opinions, I'd likely have to consider my days here numbered ;) based on some of my comments in the past.
 

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