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Livelonginspired said:
I believe that there is literally NO SUCH THING as a civil/respectful political discussion. I tend to do more listening (and laughing) than talking, whenever I do decide to get involved.
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I think you are right.... One of our Chicago mayors had a saying.. "Politics ain't tiddly-winks" He was right... both in practice and on message boards.. By it's nature it tends to get heated at times.
 

Shirley said:
I am a Republican. I'd as soon be attacked by a pack of vicious, rabid dogs as post my opinions here. I think the dogs would likely be kinder.
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Are you kidding me? This forum is tame by the Nth degree compared to some of the political debate forums out there.. There are some I wouldn't even consider putting an opinion out on..
 

QuickSilver said:
Are you kidding me? This forum is tame by the Nth degree compared to some of the political debate forums out there.. There are some I wouldn't even consider putting an opinion out on..
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So true, back in the day Slate had a political board and I've seen every name in the book called there. Man or woman all fair game. This forum is very tame. But like I said, if you don't wanna play politics, don't.
 
AZ Jim said:
So true, back in the day Slate had a political board and I've seen every name in the book called there. Man or woman all fair game. This forum is very tame. But like I said, if you don't wanna play politics, don't.
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I agree.. some people are political and enjoy the back and forth of political debate. Some people are very sensitive and feel insulted when their opinions are challenged. They mistake a rebuttal of their opinion as an attack.. In which case, it might be better to avoid those discussions. I find this section very enjoyable for it's lively discussions... even if they get a bet dicy...and sometimes make me want to scream.. It would be a shame to have it ruined by anyone.. I probably would end up losing interest..
 
I too would feel we lost the nicest part of this forum, a place to express and defend your opinions on things political. It is not a "user friendly" area for the ultra sensitive souls.
 
The problem is, a lot of times it isn't just sensitivity; most people cannot challenge another person's political views without being bitter, nasty and insulting in the process. To me those are the ones who actually can't stand the heat. If you can't debate without resorting to snide remarks and childish insults, then clearly you're not very secure with your opinion. The worst part is that the people who do this never admit that they're being irrational. Never. Someone else is always the problem; never them. Narcissists.

I'm not talking about anyone here, by the way. At least I don't think I am.
 
AZ Jim said:
I too would feel we lost the nicest part of this forum, a place to express and defend your opinions on things political. It is not a "user friendly" area for the ultra sensitive souls.
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And while I see a lot of disputing of opinions and even fun poked... it's always only at the positions taken... never the poster.. I have only seen outright name calling once... and it was handled immediately.
 
GeneMO said:
80% of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights act, less than70% of the Democrats did.
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That's because.... If you look at political history.... the South was primarily Democratic.... the DixieCrats... so of course they voted against the Civil Rights act.. Once that became law, the South switched parties and became Republican.. As Lyndon Johnson said. "We have lost the South for a Generation"
 
Livelonginspired said:
The problem is, a lot of times it isn't just sensitivity; most people cannot challenge another person's political views without being bitter, nasty and insulting in the process. To me those are the ones who actually can't stand the heat. If you can't debate without resorting to snide remarks and childish insults, then clearly you're not very secure with your opinion. The worst part is that the people who do this never admit that they're being irrational. Never. Someone else is always the problem; never them. Narcissists.

I'm not talking about anyone here, by the way. At least I don't think I am.
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This is the BEST post on this thread, now there is a person with their head on straight! Thanks you for renewing my faith in humanity!! Denise
 
Not that anyone will read this, but I did realize last night that I was accused of saying Seabreeze should not be able to post and have fun here, which, is not at all what I said. I said that I believed, from other site admins I've seen, that the admin should remain objective. My other point was, and not just my own feeling, was that if we leaned to far to the "unpopular" side on this board, or, slung back the rudeness, and disrespectfulness that was being handed out, we might get banned because the board "seemed" to be leaning more and more. I was not the only one that felt this way.

I'm not hangin in there anymore because I truly don't know enough about politics, but kindness and consideration to others, I do know. But I will also come out fighting if you get nasty with me, it's just the way I am.

or my friends I respect.
 
AZ Jim said:
I live in a very red state but luckily I have been inoculated against the dreaded malady of Republicanitis!
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There's a flaw somewhere in the way your system is set up if any state remains perpetually red or blue. Over here it's more finely balanced and the states do swing over time between the two major parties, with state government usually held for two to four terms on average. Same with the federal government, although our current government, halfway through it's first term, looks like it won't be re-elected in 18 months. The voters are becoming less patient these days.

For a two party system, I would expect the power to fluctuate between them.

Perhaps I've misunderstood the red state/blue state situation?
 
Dame Warrigal said:
There's a flaw somewhere in the way your system is set up if any state remains perpetually red or blue. Over here it's more finely balanced and the states do swing over time between the two major parties, with state government usually held for two to four terms on average. Same with the federal government, although our current government, halfway through it's first term, looks like it won't be re-elected in 18 months. The voters are becoming less patient these days.

For a two party system, I would expect the power to fluctuate between them.

Perhaps I've misunderstood the red state/blue state situation?
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Well the bottom line is the electoral votes. Here we Democrats have come very close to a majority in voting but if we lack the most votes all our electoral votes go to the majority. Personally I prefer a proportionate award of those electoral votes. You garner 45% of the popular vote, you get 45% of the electoral votes. But, if wishes were fishes Bush would not have been elected without the majority of popular votes in 2000.

In 2000, George W. Bush was declared the winner of the general election and became the 43rd president, but he didn’t win the popular vote either. Al Gore holds that distinction, garnering about 540,000 more votes than Bush. However, Bush won the electoral vote, 271 to 266. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/presidents-winning-without-popular-vote/
 
Dame Warrigal said:
There's a flaw somewhere in the way your system is set up if any state remains perpetually red or blue. Over here it's more finely balanced and the states do swing over time between the two major parties, with state government usually held for two to four terms on average. Same with the federal government, although our current government, halfway through it's first term, looks like it won't be re-elected in 18 months. The voters are becoming less patient these days.

For a two party system, I would expect the power to fluctuate between them.


Perhaps I've misunderstood the red state/blue state situation?
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nope it either the donkey team or the elephant team on threads like this one to select the MVP
 

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