How Many Terrorist Leaders Were Killed Under President Obama 1st Term in Office?

rt3 said:
nope it either the donkey team or the elephant team on threads like this one to select the MVP
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You see nothing wrong when a person can be elected even though most voted for the other candidate?
 

I wasn't actually talking about the position of President. I understand how the electoral college works. I was actually talking about how each state gets to elect its government. I got the sense that some are permanently red or blue. Am I wrong in this ? Is power in some states entrenched in one party or the other, or is the norm to periodically switch over to the opposite party?
 
I can only speak for four states I have owned homes in and been residents of. California Blue, Arizona Red, Idaho Red and Arizona Red. Once in power in these states the majority with the power can gerrymander and use their influence in the legislation's to remain in power.
 

Dame Warrigal said:
I wasn't actually talking about the position of President. I understand how the electoral college works. I was actually talking about how each state gets to elect its government. I got the sense that some are permanently red or blue. Am I wrong in this ? Is power in some states entrenched in one party or the other, or is the norm to periodically switch over to the opposite party?
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I live in Illinois.... Because of the dense population in the Northern part of the state.. (read...Chicago)... the Illinois legislature is ususally Democratic.. Illinois is a Blue state for the most part, and that's how we vote in the Presidential elections.. However, we have a history of flip flopping with the Governors.. Right now we have a new Republican governor.. Bruce Rauner. Unfortunately for Bruce.. the Illinois Democrats have a super-majority in the State House... so it is unlikely Rouner will be able to push through any of his far right agenda.. Mike Madigan is the Speaker of the Illinois House... and he eats Republicans for breakfast.. so I am not concerned that Rouner will create any problems.
 
As I said earlier, something wrong with the system that allows gerrymandering to occur.
We've eliminated this practice by setting up an independent authority to manage all elections. It is the Australian Election Authority and they decide on boundary changes as population shift requires them. They are entirely impartial in the way it is done and they are also responsible for the conduct of elections and election campaigns to make sure the rules are not breached.

We may not like the outcome of our elections but there is integrity in the system.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
As I said earlier, something wrong with the system that allows gerrymandering to occur.
We've eliminated this practice by setting up an independent authority to manage all elections. It is the Australian Election Authority and they decide on boundary changes as population shift requires them. They are entirely impartial in the way it is done and they are also responsible for the conduct of elections and election campaigns to make sure the rules are not breached.

We may not like the outcome of our elections but there is integrity in the system.
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I agree.... gerrymandering is legal cheating... but what can be done about it. The legislture of every state has a right to draw a redistricting map after every US census.. There is nothing stopping them from drawing the lines where they choose.. Each party will draw the map to benefit them in who gets sent to Washington..
 
Well, it could start in one or two states. They could agree to set up an body independent of the legislature to run and oversee voting processes, including disputed returns, and give them the power to redraw electoral boundaries as necessary after each census with very strict guidelines about how they should be drawn. If, or when, the benefits become obvious to the voters then perhaps other state would be obliged to follow suit by popular demand. When enough states are on board, these separate authorities could be linked up in a national system.
 
Shirley said:
I am a Republican. I'd as soon be attacked by a pack of vicious, rabid dogs as post my opinions here. I think the dogs would likely be kinder.
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I'm with you shirley, I saw you had posted here which is the only reason I am. I'm just going to stick to reading/watching the candidates and issues and make my choices.
 
Kinda quiet since we were isolated here in Political Discussions. Maybe we'll have some hot button political issue soon we can tackle with vigor. It's a good thing though that those who don't like the heat that comes with strong political opinions can block this and not even see anything posted here.
 
Yeah... I really like that a separate forum was created for Politics.. That way those that are upset by it don't even have to look or be tempted to open threads should they desire to stay out of it..
 

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