Judycat
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To me it feels like Vlad is pleased to just flatten a city landscape. It doesn't have to make sense. It only has to happen.
However, they do have their plans as the idea is IMHO find us weak because of China's instigation to bring USA to their humble knees.How can Putin now end this conflict without losing face....this is the situation he now finds himself in.
When the Second World War ended, Hitler and his henchmen regarded it as just an interlude. Evidence has been found that they planned to renew their intention to dominate Europe. We must take care that the Russians don't have the same plan.
I can't understand why. He is a big time mass murderer to the rest of the world. He should be horribly ashamed.Russian President Vladimir Putin has his highest approval rating among Russians since September 2017, according to a poll released Wednesday by the independent Moscow-based Levada Center, indicating the popularity back home for the Russian leader soared since the launching war on Ukraine.
Me either.Putin must find a way to back out gracefully - and I can't really see one.
It would undoubtedly be a very scary step and our leader is well aware of that.@SeniorBen
Putin can't be told out, he already was. He must be pushed out and that equals WWIII. I'm not willing to take that step at this point.
Easy. If Ukraine gives up The Donbas region.Putin must find a way to back out gracefully - and I can't really see one.
The below article is an example of how those with the pro Western view of the war are increasingly putting pressure on social media and news media to block any information that runs counter to their narrative.
China is Russia's most powerful weapon for information warfare
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-russias-most-powerful-weapon-103842525.html
snippets:
With over a billion followers on Facebook alone, China's state-controlled channels offer Russian President Vladimir Putin a powerful megaphone for shaping global understanding of the war - often called a "special operation" in line with Kremlin rhetoric...
Fox News and other right-leaning American outlets also have picked up Russia's talking points...
China is, by far, the Kremlin's biggest promoter, however. The top four Chinese outlets - CGTN, Global Times, Xinhua News and T-House - command a massive audience with a combined follower count on Facebook of 283 million, according to research from the nonprofit Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH). All told, Chinese outlets on Facebook have over 1 billion followers, according to the Alliance for Securing Democracy - far more than the roughly 85 million total followers for Russia's main channels...
Chinese media also began to take up neo-Nazi storylines, according to ASD. Chinese diplomats and state media have tweeted about Nazis more than 140 times since the start of the war, according to the tracker...
Lately, China has focused more attention on blaming NATO for the conflict, researchers say. A recent Facebook post from T-House, a millennial-focused outlet, compared Ukraine's potential membership in NATO to Hitler's attempt to conquer Ukraine, according to research by the Center for Countering Digital Hate. "The moves by the US-led #NATO have pushed the #Russia-Ukraine tension to the breaking point," said a recent tweet by China's ambassador to the Asia-Pacific region...
Stamos, who once was Facebook's chief security officer, argued that social media companies should not give a megaphone to state media outlets from countries, such as China, where free speech is suppressed. Russia would now also fall into that category, he said.
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Of course just within China and India that means over half the world population is open to any news and social media that means the West isn't able to fully control their narrative. It is true that the Russian side is far more controlled with propaganda but also that Western side has spouted biased news also. As I noted after coming up to speed with what it is about I had known squat about, Western media has most tried to clamp down on any neutral Ukraine no NATO conversation that has always been the primary excuse Russia used to invade that was actually a trap by western militarists sacrificing Ukraine in a proxy war that has very successfully fulfilled their goals with Zelenski later admitting they mislead him. NATO and the Industrial Military Complex is once again being funded and old Cold War warmongers once again have a victory against their hated rival. That his job has been to provide and push death and destruction atrocities Western media can use to demonize Russia so much that Western people will ignore the no NATO neutral arguments.
The other Russia goal of purging Ukraine of fascists has always had a level of truth that one can readily read about on expert historical links I've already posted. There is a reason Ukraine has been considered among the most corrupt governments for decades. However Russia has greatly exaggerated their influence and really just wants Ukraine led by a pro Russian government. At this point as peace talks get more serious, they undoubtedly understand they will never purge Ukraine of not only fascists and pro Western politicians but also that the whole Ukrainian population for another generation will hate them greatly.
At this point the no NATO neutral Ukraine narrative is entrenched in China and India social media that will gradually leak over time into the Western public's understanding of the global game played, critical of those in control. Just as happened in other recent wars the US has been involved in. Ukraine has been sacrificed and the war should have been avoided by neutrality agreements.
War is never acceptable IMO.