Amen! If people would stop whining about getting vaccinated and take the available shots, this country would be in much better shape than we are in today.
IBM: Get vaccinated or no pay and no 401K match
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I don't know anyone in real life who has refused to take the COVID-19 vaccine. Like you said, the ones who refused have been brainwashed by disinformation and conspiracy from questionable sources. Hopefully they will soon wake up for their own sake and the health of those around them.
senior chef
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I am curious to know what % of people become deathly ill following a Covid vaccination ?
The other day I saw something on Microsoft news about U.S. Army doctors reporting that men in the prime of life, and in perfect health, suddenly, and without any warning developed a host of terrible symptoms. (sorry , I don't have the link )
The other day I saw something on Microsoft news about U.S. Army doctors reporting that men in the prime of life, and in perfect health, suddenly, and without any warning developed a host of terrible symptoms. (sorry , I don't have the link )
Warrigal
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Chef, unless you can nominate the source your statement is nothing but hearsay.
Do you mind if I attempt to verify your claim?
Too late. I already checked and this is what came up. Snopes has done some digging for the facts.
Do you mind if I attempt to verify your claim?
Too late. I already checked and this is what came up. Snopes has done some digging for the facts.
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Irwin
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I picked up a pizza the other day from Jet's Pizza and not one worker there was wearing a mask. About half the customers going in and out wore masks, but nobody working there was, which was extremely inconsiderate of them. They may all have been vaccinated, I don't know. I know that I won't be going back there again. I'll be damned if I'm going to risk my health for a pizza.
Shero
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WheatenLover
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I don't think sellers have to push street drugs very hard. This based on my knowledge via my former profession.
Murrmurr
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Yes there is. It's something like .0002% if I remember right. I think I saw that on the CDC website, and I'm pretty sure that's just for the USA.don't have a link? that's because none exist chefie!
Devi
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Here's something which can't be attributed to questionable sources or hearsay:
Scientist shows vaccine effects in autopsies. Don't believe it? See for yourself.
Scientist shows vaccine effects in autopsies. Don't believe it? See for yourself.
Obviously there had to of been a link to begin with otherwise Snopes wouldn't have anything to say about it. Also Chef didn't say they died, he said deathly ill, big difference.
Devi
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Did anyone view the video I posted a link to? It wasn't "good news" about the vaccine. Here it is again (since it isn't on the SF forums list of accepted video websites — it's on bitchute.com — I can't display the actual video here):
Scientist shows vaccine effects in autopsies. Don't believe it? See for yourself.
Scientist shows vaccine effects in autopsies. Don't believe it? See for yourself.
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It's unfolding before your eyes, dear. Make businesses mandate what you don't dare to because you promised you never would mandate this but of course you had this strategy plotted long in advance. It's our great "freedom of choice" which is non existent if it isn't their freedom of choice for us. We have no free choices anymore.
senior chef
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I am neither for, nor against, the vaccine. I simply don't have enough information to make a decision.
When I go out, I always wear a mask.
For a wide variety of reasons, I limit my semi-close contact with others to that which I can not get around. (city bus, once/month). I do not have CLOSE physical contact with anyone.
I must, however, walk my puppy 3-4 times/day, but I do my very best to steer clear of others.
PS: here in Mexico, no one gets inside a market or fast food joint without a mask. And they require patrons to hold their hand up against a temp reading device. And all markets , fast food joints, that I have been in, have someone on duty to spray your hands with alcohol, as you enter.
When I go out, I always wear a mask.
For a wide variety of reasons, I limit my semi-close contact with others to that which I can not get around. (city bus, once/month). I do not have CLOSE physical contact with anyone.
I must, however, walk my puppy 3-4 times/day, but I do my very best to steer clear of others.
PS: here in Mexico, no one gets inside a market or fast food joint without a mask. And they require patrons to hold their hand up against a temp reading device. And all markets , fast food joints, that I have been in, have someone on duty to spray your hands with alcohol, as you enter.
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Alligatorob
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I have no problem with private companies requiring what they want of employees. However I would be interested to know how this is being pushed or forced by the government. Does anyone understand that? Is it a requirement with some kind of teeth, or just a suggestion the company has decided to follow?
Note that the article has been amended to correct this statement, no one will lose the 401k match. A minor thing...
oldnewb
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Where I live in Tasmania Australia, we have been pretty lucky so far but tow of Australian mainland states New South Wales and Victoria are in the grip of a third wave at the moment which started by an infected removal truck driver traveling through those states.
It is mandatory for all health workers to be fully vaccinated to continue to work right around Australia.
Both my wife and myself are fully vaccinated, my wife having the Phizer and I had the Astrazenica with no side affects other missing out on a lolly pop. (Ha!)
No matter how any one looks at it; the science doesn't lye especially with 4millian + dead around the world and still counting.
It is mandatory for all health workers to be fully vaccinated to continue to work right around Australia.
Both my wife and myself are fully vaccinated, my wife having the Phizer and I had the Astrazenica with no side affects other missing out on a lolly pop. (Ha!)
No matter how any one looks at it; the science doesn't lye especially with 4millian + dead around the world and still counting.
Shero
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Ma Cherie, what is unfolding? I do not understand your view. You say you have no “freedom of choice” there plenty of choice, but you cannot make them if you die from covid.
Shero
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Becky ,“deathly ill” means at death’s door. That means they are not getting off that bed ever!!!
They should be pushing it harder. Just as they wiped out smallpox by pushing that vaccine. That took away people's right to get, spread, and die of that terrible scourge. How outrageous.
Ideally they wouldn't have to push it at all, but in this day and age, instead of people being grateful that there is some protection from a worldwide deadly virus, they are in a conspiracy rabbit hole and not acting realistically. I'm for whatever it takes to get the majority of Americans vaccinated, free up hospital beds, give the dedicated medical workers a well deserved break and get back to some form of normal. This rebellion is nonsense, and it negatively affects all Americans. Rest in peace to the 700,000+ Americans who are no longer living due to this pandemic.
Another nutter making a video to spread disinformation about life saving vaccines. Why do you help to spread these lies around, you are part of the problem? Also, using a site like Bitchute that is known to promote hate speech, lies, conspiracies, disinformation, terrorism, etc. I don't care if you fall for this garbage, but please don't spread it to others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/s...ess-claims-about-safety-of-covid-19-vaccines/
Thanks Warrigal for bringing some truth here. glad they took that site/link down. Bad enough these harmful lies are spread on social media and areas of the internet, people are just being brainwashed by it, with no effort to see the truthful side of the story. I'm glad some on youtube and facebook are removing the conspiracies, lies and misinformation.
AnnieA
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IBM, I love you and all the others like you
Why not include antibody passports based on antibody blood tests for those recovered from Covid who have antibodies superior to vaccine induced antibodies?
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Jules
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How many people will ‘find religion’ when it will work as an exemption. Is this a specific type of religion such as Jehovah Witnesses who have a long history of declining medical intervention?
Just like doctors who will hand out addictive pills, there‘ll be those who will be glad to sign an exemption.
One of the three largest areas of spread in BC was within religious groups.
Gaer
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DEVI: THIS VIDEO IS INCREDIBLE!
The incredible video posted is from BitChute: @Gaer, @Devi
"BitChute is a video hosting service launched by Ray Vahey in January 2017. It is known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech." Wikipedia
I guess you don't care where you get your information from, or what they stand for. You're known by the company you keep my mother used to say.
"BitChute is a video hosting service launched by Ray Vahey in January 2017. It is known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech." Wikipedia
I guess you don't care where you get your information from, or what they stand for. You're known by the company you keep my mother used to say.