Lon
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If you were God would you have created things exactly the same as supposedly God did or do you think you could have done a better job? What would you have done different?
If You Were God
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Warrigal
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The arrogance of Adam still exists.
If humanity were to design creation, it would be a disaster.
It would be a world peopled by machines and robots, without the beauty of the natural world but it would be functional, I suppose.
Count me out because I love this world as it is.
If humanity were to design creation, it would be a disaster.
It would be a world peopled by machines and robots, without the beauty of the natural world but it would be functional, I suppose.
Count me out because I love this world as it is.
Lon
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Not humanity, but you. Do you mean to say Dame that you would not have made any changes? in creating man?
SifuPhil
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I would probably have gone for a Matrix-like construction, keeping everyone in line by giving them the illusion of a dream world.
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I'm stayin' out of this one lest I be banned for life.
Josiah
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Somehow I can't believe he or she couldn't have done a much better job of communicating to mankind the incontrovertible fact of his/her existence. Giving a speech at the UN might be a start.
Warrigal
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I would've created more angels to help guide humans. I would've eliminated disease which seems to have no positive purpose in any case and I would've ordained that all babies be born perfect, without defect, physical or mental. I'd have given humans the ability to disappear at will, from anyone except God, of course. The earth is beautiful. Nature has an order which is inspiring. I, as God, would've helped my creatures to be more aware of that.
Warrigal
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They wouldn't be if we were all machines and robots.
In a real world of flesh and blood, death and disease are necessary elements.
To have a planet that is habitable for living things, it needs to be tectonically active, otherwise it cannot be renewed and it eventually dies.
For this reason we need earthquakes, volcanoes and drifting continents.
And for the same reasons we need weather, including storms, and seasons.
We may not like some of the details but the world is as it is because that is how it has to be to sustain life.
However, the earth doesn't have to sustain us (or any other particular species) so the question is why do we even exist?
In a real world of flesh and blood, death and disease are necessary elements.
To have a planet that is habitable for living things, it needs to be tectonically active, otherwise it cannot be renewed and it eventually dies.
For this reason we need earthquakes, volcanoes and drifting continents.
And for the same reasons we need weather, including storms, and seasons.
We may not like some of the details but the world is as it is because that is how it has to be to sustain life.
However, the earth doesn't have to sustain us (or any other particular species) so the question is why do we even exist?
SifuPhil
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Some believe the opposite - that the world has to be the way it is because that is the way it is.
A small but important difference ...
Because we do?
Warrigal
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Sings: We're here because, we're here because, we're here because, we're here.
That's not an answer. It's a philosophical daisy chain.
That's not an answer. It's a philosophical daisy chain.
SifuPhil
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And isn't that what most of life really is? There are no absolutes, no black and white answers.
Why are we born? Why do we die? Where can you get a decent hamburger at 4am?
Rob
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We exist because ...
1. Conditions on the early Earth were such that life of some sort was almost certain to arise.
2. Our very remote ancestors managed to survive the various extinction events that doomed other competing species to premature extinction.
Who knows, perhaps if a chance encounter with a cometary/asteroidal mass some 65 million years ago had not occurred, then 'Sauro sapiens erectus' would be the dominant species on Earth today.
1. Conditions on the early Earth were such that life of some sort was almost certain to arise.
2. Our very remote ancestors managed to survive the various extinction events that doomed other competing species to premature extinction.
Who knows, perhaps if a chance encounter with a cometary/asteroidal mass some 65 million years ago had not occurred, then 'Sauro sapiens erectus' would be the dominant species on Earth today.
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GOD AND ST. FRANCIS DISCUSSING LAWNS
Posted: 31 Mar 2015 08:04 AM PDT
GOD: Francis, What has happened to all the dandelions, violets, thistle and stuff I started eons ago?
I had a perfect, no-maintenance garden plan. Those plants grow in any type of soil, withstand drought and multiply with abandon.
The nectar from the long lasting blossoms attracts butterflies, honey bees and flocks of songbirds.
I expected to see a vast garden of colors by now. But all I see are green rectangles.
ST. FRANCIS: It's the tribes that settled there, Lord. The Suburbanites. They started calling your flowers "weeds" and went to great lengths to kill them and replace them with grass.
GOD: Grass? But it's so boring. It's not colorful. It doesn't attract butterflies, birds and bees, only grubs and sod worms. It's temperamental with temperatures. Do Suburbanites really want all that grass?
ST. FRANCIS: Apparently so, Lord. They go to great pains to grow it and keep it green. They begin each spring by fertilizing grass and poisoning any other plant that crops up in the lawn.
GOD: The spring rains and warm weather probably make grass grow fast. That must make the Suburbanites happy.
ST. FRANCIS: Not really, Lord. As soon as it grows a little, they cut it - sometimes twice a week.
GOD: Cut it? Do they then bale it like hay?
ST. FRANCIS: No, Lord. Most rake it up and put it in bags.
GOD: They bag it? Why? Is it a cash crop? Do they sell it?
ST. FRANCIS: No Sir. Just the opposite. They pay to throw it away.
GOD: Now let me get this straight. They fertilize grass so it will grow. And when it does grow, they cut it off and pay to throw it away?
ST. FRANCIS: Yes, Sir.
GOD: These Suburbanites must be relieved in the summer when we cut back on the rain and turn up the heat. That surely slows the growth and saves them a lot of work.
ST. FRANCIS: You aren't going to believe this Lord. When the grass stops growing so fast, they drag out hoses and pay more money to water it so they can continue to mow it and pay to get rid of it.
GOD: What nonsense. At least they kept some of the trees. That was a sheer stroke of genius, if I do say so myself. The trees grow leaves in the spring to provide beauty and shade in the summer. In the autumn they fall to the ground and form a natural blanket to keep moisture in the soil and protect the trees and bushes. Plus, as they rot, the leaves form compost to enhance the soil. It's a natural circle of life.
ST. FRANCIS: You better sit down, Lord. The Suburbanites have drawn a new circle. As soon as the leaves fall, they rake them into great piles and pay to have them hauled away.
GOD: No. What do they do to protect the shrub and tree roots in the winter and to keep the soil moist and loose?
ST. FRANCIS: After throwing away the leaves, they go out and buy something which they call mulch. They haul it home and spread it around in place of the leaves.
GOD: And where do they get this mulch?
ST. FRANCIS: They cut down trees and grind them up to make the mulch.
GOD: Enough. I don't want to think about this anymore. St. Catherine, you're in charge of the arts. What movie have they scheduled for us tonight?"
ST. CATHERINE: "Dumb and Dumber", Lord. It's a really stupid movie about.....
GOD: Never mind, I think I just heard the whole story from St. Francis.
Posted: 31 Mar 2015 08:04 AM PDT
GOD: Francis, What has happened to all the dandelions, violets, thistle and stuff I started eons ago?
I had a perfect, no-maintenance garden plan. Those plants grow in any type of soil, withstand drought and multiply with abandon.
The nectar from the long lasting blossoms attracts butterflies, honey bees and flocks of songbirds.
I expected to see a vast garden of colors by now. But all I see are green rectangles.
ST. FRANCIS: It's the tribes that settled there, Lord. The Suburbanites. They started calling your flowers "weeds" and went to great lengths to kill them and replace them with grass.
GOD: Grass? But it's so boring. It's not colorful. It doesn't attract butterflies, birds and bees, only grubs and sod worms. It's temperamental with temperatures. Do Suburbanites really want all that grass?
ST. FRANCIS: Apparently so, Lord. They go to great pains to grow it and keep it green. They begin each spring by fertilizing grass and poisoning any other plant that crops up in the lawn.
GOD: The spring rains and warm weather probably make grass grow fast. That must make the Suburbanites happy.
ST. FRANCIS: Not really, Lord. As soon as it grows a little, they cut it - sometimes twice a week.
GOD: Cut it? Do they then bale it like hay?
ST. FRANCIS: No, Lord. Most rake it up and put it in bags.
GOD: They bag it? Why? Is it a cash crop? Do they sell it?
ST. FRANCIS: No Sir. Just the opposite. They pay to throw it away.
GOD: Now let me get this straight. They fertilize grass so it will grow. And when it does grow, they cut it off and pay to throw it away?
ST. FRANCIS: Yes, Sir.
GOD: These Suburbanites must be relieved in the summer when we cut back on the rain and turn up the heat. That surely slows the growth and saves them a lot of work.
ST. FRANCIS: You aren't going to believe this Lord. When the grass stops growing so fast, they drag out hoses and pay more money to water it so they can continue to mow it and pay to get rid of it.
GOD: What nonsense. At least they kept some of the trees. That was a sheer stroke of genius, if I do say so myself. The trees grow leaves in the spring to provide beauty and shade in the summer. In the autumn they fall to the ground and form a natural blanket to keep moisture in the soil and protect the trees and bushes. Plus, as they rot, the leaves form compost to enhance the soil. It's a natural circle of life.
ST. FRANCIS: You better sit down, Lord. The Suburbanites have drawn a new circle. As soon as the leaves fall, they rake them into great piles and pay to have them hauled away.
GOD: No. What do they do to protect the shrub and tree roots in the winter and to keep the soil moist and loose?
ST. FRANCIS: After throwing away the leaves, they go out and buy something which they call mulch. They haul it home and spread it around in place of the leaves.
GOD: And where do they get this mulch?
ST. FRANCIS: They cut down trees and grind them up to make the mulch.
GOD: Enough. I don't want to think about this anymore. St. Catherine, you're in charge of the arts. What movie have they scheduled for us tonight?"
ST. CATHERINE: "Dumb and Dumber", Lord. It's a really stupid movie about.....
GOD: Never mind, I think I just heard the whole story from St. Francis.
Warrigal
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The Goldilocks scenario?
What are the odds?
SifuPhil
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AZ Jim
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With the Southwest drought situation green is getting scarcer. It is a low priority for lawn, bushes, golf courses, etc....We are gonna need it to survive ourselves. Many are taking out lawns in favor of artificial turf etal...
Rob
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The odds are impossible to calculate as we have insufficient information on the likelihood of any given star of the approximate stellar type to Sol, having an appropriate rocky planet in the 'Goldilocks' zone, with a sufficiency of icy comets to provide liquid water as a solvent for carbon biochemistries to evolve. Having said that, even if the odds are arbitrarily set at 1 in 10^9 (a billion) then, in our galaxy alone, there may be 250 civilisations at or exceeding our level of development. Personally, and for no other reason than having seen the recent discoveries of several extra-solar planets in relatively close proximity to us, I would guess that the odds are much greater.
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When I'm elected God, there are going to be some changes made.....