AZ Jim
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It's all too much for me. I'll stick with folks who have a stake in life.
I do know two guys, brothers, who wallow in their depression. Both live like hermits, one disgustingly unkempt. They do not live together, do not see each other. One is three years older than the other. Both have been in therapy for over thirty years. Think it helps? As I see it, they have to pay people to listen to them drone on and on about their miserable lives. I could only tolerate a few minutes of conversation with either one, and only because both were childhood friends. The filthy one goes on and on about what a genius he is, and what a great artist he is. He paints excellent still life pieces, but that's it. Neither one is open to any suggestions about getting out and about, getting a pet, developing new hobbies, etc. Yeah, I believe some people actually do choose to be miserable. They are afraid of becoming fully functioning members of society, afraid that people will see their (real or imagined) faults. We do have a self-proclaimed psychologist in here, at times, but I haven't seen her around in about six months. If she shows up she will, quite predictably, go on about the errors in my post, so stand by. Shally? (Right off the bat, I know that the brothers, as above, give support to the idea that depression may have a genetic component. I know how these guys were raised, though, and that predisposed them to being depressed, in their lives, as I see it.)
Nihil,
your screen name signifies Nothing or meaninglessness. Don't know how to respond.
I am not a nihilist, are you? It's a untenable philosophy that I am familiar with. It is easy having opinions
but not easy finding facts and strong evidence for them.
Yes paying someone for therapy may be a bummer but the alternative is no one.
I do not recommend using your friends this way.
If he or she helps you and is worth the time and money then be glad for it.
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Nihilist -a person who rejects all religious and moral principles.
If what we believe is projected onto others, it’s no wonder you have a difficult time with society
note: I didn’t mean that to sound judgmental. Just factual
Nihil has been around quite a bit. He posted in the thread today. We chatted back and forth. He also posted in Aneeda’s thread about God(s).Has anyone noticed Nihil hasn't been around and answering anymore? I hope he's all right. Losing a close relationship is such a bummer. Especially for seniors.
:lofl: That’s why I added that it wasn’t a judgment.lol. By your kind words, I'm sure you have no idea what goes on in my head.
Nihil is short for Nihilist? But you said you had a girlfriend in your opening post. That would mean you believe in love. Nihilists believe everything is meaningless. I think your first step on the road to recovery is to acknowledge that you are not a Nihilist because your life does in fact have meaning...proof being, you believe in love.
Whether or not you and your girlfriend are splitting up has nothing to do with the fact that you believe in love. You love people...not all but some. You probably love dogs or cats. You're capable of love. Own it. Focus on it. Nurture it. Enjoy the feel of it. Then reach out and show your love...because that feels even better.
I don't know if you're into drugs, alcohol, or violent games/movies/tv but if so, I would suggest removing yourself from that as it will rob you of all feeling. It will steal that pleasure from you. It will win. Don't let it win.
:lofl: That’s why I added that it wasn’t a judgment.
Surely you can see the irony. Your not a stupid man.
And yes I do have an idea what’s going on in your head because you’ve shared your thoughts and feelings with us.lol. By your kind words, I'm sure you have no idea what goes on in my head.
That’s isn’t at all what I said or even hinted atYou're an idiot. Just kidding.
Does the "just kidding" help?
And yes I do have an idea what’s going on in your head because you’ve shared your thoughts and feelings with us.
I’m not that different from you.
That’s isn’t at all what I said or even hinted at
but I understand your insecurity.
My husband often has to remind me that most people are scared and insecure at times.
They are just better at hiding it
You aren’t that different
I thought this thread was about reaching out due to depression.
So many nice people here on the forum responding, trying to give feedback and suggestions to help.
Being argumentative and difficult.will get you nowhere quick...might as well close this thread since it's been sidetracked....
Yes, Pepper, I agree with that, I just think there is more to the story going on here, than that, that's all.One of the major symptoms of clinical depression is irritability.