Immigrants wanting to enter illegally?

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Brookswood said:
I have yet to meet a person who came to this country legally, put in the effort to become a citizen, who thinks that the people sneaking across the boarder are some special case and have special right. These naturalized citizens are under the impression that our political leaders are supposed to work for us - the citizens who hired them at the voting box.

Well known liberal spokesperson Bill Maher has this to say:
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I think Bill Maher is more of a libertarian than a liberal.
 

JaniceM said:
In one area where I lived, this 'group' was the majority, by far. No problems. In another, I was the only individual who wasn't either an immigrant or first-generation. No problems. In contrast, it's been "others" that come to this country and treat Americans like we're not even people, refuse to leave their prejudices at the door, and try to shove their 'cultures' down everybody else's throats. The subject bugs me in general, but even more so as I'm trying to cope with a couple of these idiots who don't seem to realize this is OUR country.
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Can you be a little more specific about who the "others" are that

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"come to this country and treat Americans like we're not even people, refuse to leave their prejudices at the door, and try to shove their 'cultures' down everybody else's throats."
 

JaniceM said:
(I knew I couldn't force myself to stay out of this thread.. was actually trying to find an older post by another member to link to but couldn't locate it)

When individuals gripe about immigrants and immigration, it's only one specific group- our "brown-skinned neighbors from the south." Of everything I've seen, read, heard, AND personally experienced, THEY aren't the ones causing problems in this country- past or present. Individuals who come to the U.S. and commit crimes-against-persons, run drugs, etc., should be dealt with, but it's a small minority.

In one area where I lived, this 'group' was the majority, by far. No problems. In another, I was the only individual who wasn't either an immigrant or first-generation. No problems. In contrast, it's been "others" that come to this country and treat Americans like we're not even people, refuse to leave their prejudices at the door, and try to shove their 'cultures' down everybody else's throats. The subject bugs me in general, but even more so as I'm trying to cope with a couple of these idiots who don't seem to realize this is OUR country.
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Well said. And has it been the immigrants to this country who have been involved in the latest mass shootings? I think not. It has been the mentally deranged, bullied white kids who have been at the root of this.

Also, what no one has mentioned is that the birth rate among white people in the US has been declining. And the white kids who are here don't want to do the menial jobs that immigrants are willing to do. Do they want to work at McDonald's? Do they want to do construction? No, they want to make it big by being influencers on Tik-Tok or Youtube. Heck, if it wasn't for immigrants my mother, when she was in assisted living, would have had no one to take care of her.

This fear of "others" because they don't look like us is ridiculous. Our country will be more brown than white by 2045. I'm an old white guy, and I think old white guys who think we can hold onto the US of the 60's is just ridiculous.
 
I've tried to leave alone too! I have no problem with the fact that other countries want to come here, that they want to be part of the American dream, that they want their families to live a better life and their children to get an education.

I don't know anything about the law, I don't know how hard it is to apply and be accepted. I know that it must be hard to live somewhere, maybe in a shack, no water or electricity, watching your children cry because they are hungry. I know I would do what I had to do better for my family. Would'nt you?
 
Blessed said:
I've tried to leave alone too! I have no problem with the fact that other countries want to come here, that they want to be part of the American dream, that they want their families to live a better life and their children to get an education.

I don't know anything about the law, I don't know how hard it is to apply and be accepted. I know that it must be hard to live somewhere, maybe in a shack, no water or electricity, watching your children cry because they are hungry. I know I would do what I had to do better for my family. Would'nt you?
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"I've tried to leave alone too! I have no problem with the fact that other countries want to come here, that they want to be part of the American dream, that they want their families to live a better life and their children to get an education."

But IMO there's the 'Rub' ..........

"They" do not want to be a part of the "American Dream" ..... They want to come here , continue to speak their language , and expect us to learn it .

They continue to fly their flag, etc .... They do not want to become American ..... they just want to take what America offer's . And IMO we offer way too much !
 
Maybe lost in this is the thread is about entering illegally. Seems the word illegal is dropped.

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As I've said many times here, Bill Maher is a long-time favorite of mine. I nearly always agree with his point of view. But I don't like this "Be MY lawyer stuff." If everybody followed that philosophy, we would all be pitted against each other, regarding every ethnic group other than our own the "enemy."

I am fortunate enough to have been born in this country. That doesn't mean I shouldn't give a damn about people desperate for work and freedom who want to live here, just as my ancestors did. Sometimes there are more important things than crossing all the t's, stamping all the documents with the proper rubber stamp, and counting the precise number of people who should be allowed in.

Also, if you read any of the history of every other group that migrated here in the past (except probably the Native Americans), they were all hated, insulted, painted with the same brush of lies about how awful they were, how stupid, ignorant, dirty, smelly, illiterate, and so on. And guess what? It took one generation for them all to turn into Americans.
 

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