Immigrants wanting to enter illegally?

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Don M. said:
For Sure. Our area has lots of chicken/turkey farms, and there is a huge processing plant in a town about 30 miles away. If you go to the Walmart there in the evenings, or weekends, you almost feel like you have suddenly been transported to Mexico....90% of the customers babbling in Spanish.
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While a lot of Americans babble in English about the bi-lingual, for the most part, Hispanics who are babbling in Spanish, 😂. Cause, you know, you are at the Wal-mart as well, just saying.
 

Aneeda72 said:
Pickers are not paid by the hour.

But suppose they were. Would you pick cotton for 20 an hour?-or strawberries, or tomatoes or any other crop in 100 plus weather for months? With no job during the winter months, no health insurance, no schooling for your children, and traveling from field to field, farm to farm for months.

You will live in a run down shack, or your car, or an old RV, or a transit motel. Your children will work in the fields with you, baby tied on your back. You will use an outdoor potty. No showers for the most part. You will buy your food from the company store.

I could go on and go. Educate yourself on the plight of transitory workers, so we can have a realistic conversation.
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Yup on all counts. Chili pickers here are paid by the bucketfull, and it's a pittance.

Another thing, no workers' compensation insurance for migrant farm workers, so when you wreck your back working stooped over in the blazing heat, you're just outa luck -- or if you get sick or too old to work at the pace required.

Whenever anyone makes a serious attempt to clamp down on farmers who hire migrant workers, or force them to pay minimum wage, or properly report their wages to the DOL, they scream bloody murder to their legislatures and any bills for reform are shot down in flames, because, of course, food prices would go up if they had to treat the farmworkers humanely, and we certainly can't have that, can we? So they just keep on keepin' on, DOL looks the other way, legislatures look the other way, and nothing changes.
 
Migrant farmworkers have been a part of American agriculture for many decades. I was born on a farm in Colorado, and hiring migrant workers to help harvest the Sugar Beet crops was considered necessary back in the 1940's. The pay these people receive is nowhere near what American workers consider normal....but, even so, these migrant workers are able to send millions of dollar/yr. back to their families in Mexico, etc. Were it not for these funds, there would be even more poverty in Central America. Is it fair?...probably not...but it is a reflection of the conditions that exist in these nations.
People in the U.S. complain about "income inequality", but many of our people who are "living in poverty" would be considered pretty well off in some of these nations to our South.
 

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FastTrax said:
This is not immigration, this is desperation. The people who risk it all to flee their countries who eat their young.

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www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/IF10215.pdf

www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/06/05/318905712/riding-the-beast-across-mexico-to-the-u-s-border

www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/oct/05/riding-the-beast-child-migrants-reveal-full-horror-of-their-journeys-to-us

www.globalvoices.org/2011/08/08/mexicos-train-of-death/

https://abcnews.com/ABC_Univision/train-carrying-hundreds-migrants-derailed-mexico/story?id=20071646

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_tren_de_la_muerte





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I work with a mexican woman that goes home every so often and she said the border is terrifying. One trip they almost got carjacked.
 
MarciKS said:
I work with a mexican woman that goes home every so often and she said the border is terrifying. One trip they almost got carjacked.
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Almost? That would have been the end of it for me. Like the lucrative dope and human trafficking trades a large part of this crime against humanity could be curtailed if the fruit and vegetable producers would stop their unconscionable exploitation of desperate migrants.
 
FastTrax said:
Almost? That would have been the end of it for me. Like the lucrative dope and human trafficking trades a large part of this crime against humanity could be curtailed if the fruit and vegetable producers would stop their unconscionable exploitation of desperate migrants.
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She had to go to be with her father. He was dying.
 
CarolfromTX said:
My daughter used to work for CPS. So I have some first hand info. Do you honestly think unaccompanied minors are not being taken advantage of? Then you're an idiot.
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Do you honestly think that minors born and raised in the USA are not being taken advantage of? American raised abused white children, who are minors, are taken advantage of just as much, if not more, than minors left at the border towns.

Ignorance is bliss, but to believe that only Hispanic minors in Mexico are being taken advantage of is beyond idiotic. My daughter worked for the State of Utah writing immigrant contracts for social services, and did foster care.

So just who do you think is an idiot? Inquiring minds want to know. 😂
 
Aneeda72 said:
Do you honestly think that minors born and raised in the USA are not being taken advantage of? American raised abused white children, who are minors, are taken advantage of just as much, if not more, than minors left at the border towns.

Ignorance is bliss, but to believe that only Hispanic minors in Mexico are being taken advantage of is beyond idiotic. My daughter worked for the State of Utah writing immigrant contracts for social services, and did foster care.

So just who do you think is an idiot? Inquiring minds want to know. 😂
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MarciKS said:
He died hon. That was a couple years ago. She had to go again last year when her mother got sick and they made it through ok. It just makes her super nervous.
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Sorry to hear that. I remember a video of a couple of CBP agents assigned to Orlando International Airport were ecstatic to garner enough seniority to get rotated out from the CBP Station at McAllen Texas. They don't get paid nearly enough to endure the Southwest border.
 
Most of these arguments re: Columbus, et al are ridiculous. It was a different world back then and has nothing to do with today's laws at all. Another 5 or 6 hundred years down the road will end in the same innocuous arguments.
 
Human history is filled with events of a stronger society overwhelming a weaker one. Things are no different today, than when the Cro-Magnon began to replace the Neanderthals. References to Columbus and the European "invasion" of North America are a good example. The Europeans were largely united in their goals, whereas the Native American Indians were more concerned with fighting each other.

The Latino immigration in the past few decades will Also "modify" our society. An organization called La Raza has lobbied for decades for returning much of our SW to Mexico....which they claim was taken illegally during the Mexican/American war. However, since open warfare is Not an option, a huge increase in ethnic population will eventually accomplish the goal. The day may well come when California changes its name to Mexifornia, and New Mexico may drop the "New" from its name.

As birthrates among the Caucasian societies continue to decline, while those in the Latino, African, and Arabic ethnicities continue to climb, the day may come when current societies in North America and Europe also become "history".
 
Aneeda72 said:
🤦🏻‍♀️, ugh, just ugh, if only I could say what I am thinking.

@Knight are you under the impressions that thousands, if not millions, of Americans would not do this very thing if it were possible? Of course they would! It is just as hard to adopt as it is to cross the border.

My son, with Down Syndrome is white/Hispanic. My total care son is white/Shoshone. My daughter adopted a white/black child. Any child can be adopted, it’s the red tape that holds it up, and money. My daughter just adopted her GRANDDAUGHTER, it took two and half years, and thousands of dollars.

Just because you would not adopt a child does not mean that others would not no matter what their race. I, and my husband, would happily adopt any child offered at any border as would others.
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It's not had to cross the border at all. Check the videos, theres tons of it. Virtue signal much.
 
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