Is it time to renew the draft?

Yes, many of the poor do join the military to learn of new ways to earn a living. Some very good, and high tech training can be gotten from the military training schools. One might be pilots for our freight and people airlines is one outgrowth.

I also know of some well educated and trained college/university graduates do join the military and come out doing real good jobs in their personal wanted jobs. So the military is not just the poor and middle class. These are people with more gumption that far too many just do not have or want to have. These are also places for the foreign born to join, serve an enlistment and then receive a US citizenship paper. It is more than just a place for the poor to go for lack of better opportunity. It becomes a better opportunity.
 

I favor not "boots on the ground" or a draft. I propose a large contingent of operatives trained in infiltration, and assassination. Good intelligence and taking out these radicals one by one (unless we also use explosives). There is NO good way to do this kind of business.
 

Number one I don't feel we should have US troops in all these other countries. Number two is my older son might be exempt having a family and being older. My other son is 21. I would personally move him to Canada rather than have him serve. Don't get me wrong, most of my family was in WWI or WWII, I admire people who are soldiers, but no I don't want my kid to die for his country.
 
fureverywhere said:
Number one I don't feel we should have US troops in all these other countries. Number two is my older son might be exempt having a family and being older. My other son is 21. I would personally move him to Canada rather than have him serve. Don't get me wrong, most of my family was in WWI or WWII, I admire people who are soldiers, but no I don't want my kid to die for his country.
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Fur, at 21 I think that should be his decision.
 
Selective Service... Drafting of citizens won't work in today's society. We'd have "soldiers" marching in the streets protesting because someone makes them get out of bed at 5 a.m. or makes them do fitness exercises or makes them go on forced marches, etc. We've raised a generation of those who don't believe they "have" to do anything and if made to do so... protest.

As others have stated, a draft would not include those with money. The Koch brothers grandkids would never serve. Money would pad someone's pocket to make certain their lottery number never came up. Senators... Representatives... No way would their kids and grandkids be drafted.

OTOH, those that were drafted into the service and didn't want to be would not make good soldiers. How would you like to go into a firefight knowing your fellow soldiers would rather surrender or run than to stand and fight?

We have the technology that should never see thousands of foot soldiers involved in a war zone. We need to target from the air with smart bombs and drones. We need to use limited personnel, those actually on the ground being highly trained Special Ops units.

If we continue to use traditional methods of fighting an enemy, we will continue to lose. Had the U.S. employed the same "proven" military tactics as the British, we'd still be under Royal rule today. Had we not dropped bombs on two Japanese metropolitan cities, WWII would have gone on a lot longer. Two things would allow us to actually put an end to the ISIS and other Islamic terrorist activities. One... Remove the restrictions of the Geneva Convention. Two... Remove what is known as the U.S. Military Rules of Engagement. If you need to take out entire communities who are harboring terrorists... do it. If you need to behead a few Jihadists... do it. If you need to give our Special Ops folks a couple canteens full of bacon juice that could be used to coerce info out of the radicals... do it. It's sad to say, but until we become as savage as they and take them out... they win.

As far as PTSD, the two major causes of PTSD are 1.) day after day going into fire fights almost certain you won't survive and 2.) spending day after day watching your fellow soldiers blown to pieces in front of you and to see yourself blow someone's son or daughter to pieces. The human mind simply isn't built for those experiences. After previous conflicts, many of those suffering PTSD resorted to drugs and alcohol. Today, we call it by 4 letters and attempt to treat it with counseling... or prescribed drugs.
 
Young men are always willing to go to war when their homeland is attacked by enemy forces such as in the U.S. on 9/11.
So I guess the US will have to wait until ISIS destroys more innocents before we feel motivated to do anything. I'm sorry for those who will see their children, grandchildren and even great grandchildren slaughtered in such senseless and unecessary terrorist attacks. But when world leaders won't face the truth of the situation, their citizens will die.
What would have happened if Roosevelt had had that attitude after Pearl Harbor??
 
Fur, at 21 I think that should be his decision.

And yes I know him...of course if he's stays in college I believe he would be safe. His brother wanted to be a career soldier. He turned eighteen two months before 9/11. I remember he had talked to recruiters and was ready to join after graduation. He came to me panicked that the recruiters were now all the more busy encouraging him to enlist. I told them in no uncertain terms he changed his mind. Before Sept 11th I could have seen him as a Navy Seal absolutely...disciplined, intelligent, intensely logical. He now has a family and works for an electrical contractor. Blessed he's still here with us.
 
fureverywhere said:
Number one I don't feel we should have US troops in all these other countries. Number two is my older son might be exempt having a family and being older. My other son is 21. I would personally move him to Canada rather than have him serve. Don't get me wrong, most of my family was in WWI or WWII, I admire people who are soldiers, but no I don't want my kid to die for his country.
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I agree with you 100%. My husband was drafted right before our marriage during the Viet Nam war. They were very hard days.
Thankfully my Son is too old to get drafted,but my Grandsons would be eligible. One is 19 and one
is 18. I would do whatever I had to so, they would not get drafted.Let the Politicians send their
children.
 
. She is a constitutional monarch, unable to interfere in the affairs of the Commonwealth. We are not colonies. Presently, I am holding a five dollar bill. Instead of the Queen's picture, it features Sir Wilfrid Laurier, one of Canada's early Prime Ministers.
 

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