Is society, in general, becoming TOO tolerant?

It seems to me that people are much more liberal (not necessarily political) than they were 50 years ago. Media and schools keep the drumbeat of being more accepting of other people's lifestyles and origins. Where do you think the line should be drawn? (i.e. child abusers, fatties, people that wear white after summer is over, etc.)?

BTW - this question does not necessarily reflect my stance.
 

Fatties? Oh I yearn for the day when this abusive term is a thing of the past. Even after losing weight, people carry scars for the rest of their lives around the last acceptable prejudice. So hateful.
 

Trying not to be too pedantic here, or picking unnecessary holes in your topic, I understand the point you're trying to make...but really...do you seriously think that people are generally becoming more accepting of child abuse?..I think and seriously hope that it's exactly the opposite way than it was years ago... I believe child abuse of every type was just as endemic if not more so way back in the day than it is today and was almost universally hidden within families and societies as a dirty secret ..so I thank God that today compared to historically, the abuse of children is not tolerated by the vast majority of western society ..


..as an aside...what is this thing about wearing white after Labor day in the USA..I've heard this said on American TV shows for years..is that seriously something people don't do..surely not, what is that all supposed to be about?
 
Child abuse is is considered a crime here.

Although many people from the middle east believe in Sharia Law, it is not recognized here.

We are a tolerant society and wearing white after Labour Day is not only permitted, it is approved of and encouraged here, but we don't call people fatties, not done, uh uh.
 
Regarding acceptable public garmentry: Upon leaving my birthplace, Midwestern Illinois, and moving to the Mohave Desert area, Las Vegas, I learned that standards requiring, for example, shirt and tie, were relaxed considerably, due to the extreme climate difference. imp
 
I think that tolerance is desirable, but as with enlightenment is not a native human quality and must be nurtured carefully if the world ends up being plunged into a zombie apocalypse.

The abuse of Tort law by those in the legal profession is what is really destroying society.
 
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It seems to me that people are much more liberal (not necessarily political) than they were 50 years ago. Media and schools keep the drumbeat of being more accepting of other people's lifestyles and origins. Where do you think the line should be drawn? (i.e. child abusers, fatties, people that wear white after summer is over, etc.)?

BTW - this question does not necessarily reflect my stance.


I'm confused about what you mean about "origins"......bit hard to control your birthplace or family!

I take it you're slim?
 
I think the confusion comes because some people think in dogmatic terms.

If we think in terms of compassion it's not so confusing. I had little compassion for people who hurt other people.

Jesus had compassion for the women, so she was not stoned, which was the dogma of the time.

That would have been very confusing to the people of that time.
 
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It seems to me that people are much more liberal (not necessarily political) than they were 50 years ago. Media and schools keep the drumbeat of being more accepting of other people's lifestyles and origins. Where do you think the line should be drawn? (i.e. child abusers, fatties, people that wear white after summer is over, etc.)?

BTW - this question does not necessarily reflect my stance.

Debodun, as far as I'm concerned we can never be too tolerant of our fellow man, do we have the right to judge what is and what isn't tolerable? People have the right and privilege to choose whatever lifestyle suits them, and as already mentioned, they have no control over their origins, but how many of us would be so high and mighty as to decide if we were going to tolerate someone or not because of where they were born?

The only people who should not be tolerated in this society, IMO, are people who abuse others or their property. Child abusers would definitely fall into that category, and I don't know of anyone who tolerates those who abuse babies or children. People like that are scum, and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law (or worse).

Fatties? Firstly, just using that term shows disrespect and intolerance to those who either by choice, uncontrolled situations or medical condition are overweight. If being liberal makes people treat others of all sizes, shapes or colors equally, than liberal is a very good thing and we should all adopt that mindset. Again, we can never be too tolerant in this respect.

Not tolerating people who wear white after summer is an old belief that should be buried with the ones who created that snobbish standard, I never paid much mind to "rules" like these.

While no one is completely sure exactly when or why this fashion rule came into effect, our best guess is that it had to do with snobbery in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

The wives of the super-rich ruled high society with an iron fist after the Civil War. As more and more people became millionaires, though, it was difficult to tell the difference between old money, respectable families, and those who only had vulgar new money.

By the 1880s, in order to tell who was acceptable and who wasn’t, the women who were already “in” felt it necessary to create dozens of fashion rules that everyone in the know had to follow. That way, if a woman showed up at the opera in a dress that cost more than most Americans made in a year, but it had the wrong sleeve length, other women would know not to give her the time of day.

Not wearing white outside the summer months was another one of these silly rules. White was for weddings and resort wear, not dinner parties in the fall. Of course it could get extremely hot in September, and wearing white might make the most sense, but if you wanted to be appropriately attired you just did not do it. Labor Day became a federal holiday in 1894, and society eventually adopted it as the natural endpoint for summer fashion.

Not everyone followed this rule. Even some socialites continued to buck the trend, most famously Coco Chanel, who wore white year-round. But even though the rule was originally enforced by only a few hundred women, over the decades it trickled down to everyone else. By the 1950s, women’s magazines made it clear to middle class America: white clothing came out on Memorial Day and went away on Labor Day.

These days the fashion world is much more relaxed about what colors to wear and when, but every year you will still hear people say that white after Labor Day is unacceptable, all thanks to some snobby millionaires over 100 years ago.
 
What Seabreeze said ^.

It really irritates me that there are actually fashion "rules". Maybe it's because I'm getting older but the only rule I follow is the comfort rule.....especially with shoes. Don't get me wrong I like nice clothes but I wear what I like and not what some out of touch with the real world fashionista tells me to wear. We recently had the Melbourne Cup which is a huge social and fashion event and I had to turn the telly off as we were bombarded with segments such as Fashion from the Field and Ladies Day Fashions. Just lots of wannabees trying to outdo each other with the most ridiculous hats and fascinators.......sets my teeth on edge.
 
It really irritates me that there are actually fashion "rules". Maybe it's because I'm getting older but the only rule I follow is the comfort rule.....especially with shoes. Don't get me wrong I like nice clothes but I wear what I like and not what some out of touch with the real world fashionista tells me to wear. We recently had the Melbourne Cup which is a huge social and fashion event and I had to turn the telly off as we were bombarded with segments such as Fashion from the Field and Ladies Day Fashions. Just lots of wannabees trying to outdo each other with the most ridiculous hats and fascinators.......sets my teeth on edge.

I just picked up a used book on fashion. Yes I saw myself in it...pants with no butt, shirts with no boob at all, makeup and jewelry rarely...WAIT I haven't jumped on the ice floe yet...I'm starting an overhaul, I feel old, but crap I'm not dead yet!
 
The whole "no white after Labor Day" thing came about in the early 20th century. The well-to-do would flock to the beach resorts after Memorial Day and naturally change their dark, somber clothing for lighter, breezier wear.

At the end of the "season" they'd toss their whites and go back to their funeral clothing.

Dress codes during that time were strictly observed, so that's where you get the "no white after Labor Day".
 
Trying not to be too pedantic here, or picking unnecessary holes in your topic, I understand the point you're trying to make...but really...do you seriously think that people are generally becoming more accepting of child abuse?..I think and seriously hope that it's exactly the opposite way than it was years ago... I believe child abuse of every type was just as endemic if not more so way back in the day than it is today and was almost universally hidden within families and societies as a dirty secret ..so I thank God that today compared to historically, the abuse of children is not tolerated by the vast majority of western society ..


..as an aside...what is this thing about wearing white after Labor day in the USA..I've heard this said on American TV shows for years..is that seriously something people don't do..surely not, what is that all supposed to be about?

I agree about child abuse and would add animal rights to that too. I'm glad we've moved forward and no longer tolerate either child or animal abusers.

As for wearing white after labor day?? LOL. I wore white yesterday Nov. 6. Where I live 70 degree weather is almost unheard of at this time of year so it's a pleasure to celebrate nature's unexpected gift when it comes. I wore sandals and toenail polish too. Maybe this is an "American" thing, but why not. I enjoy white in winter. Wearing black for 7 or 8 cold months in a row can make people depressed. So I embrace my white wardrobe and all occasions that present themselves to wear it.

Forgive me if this is way off topic. This is a serious question. I think the world is more tolerant of some things like religious freedoms which is good and less tolerant of all forms of abuse which is also a good thing. It's good too that the mentally ill and depressed are better understood than before when all mental illness qualified people for institutionalization. Suicide is better understood and these people and their families are no longer further punished by churches by being refused burial on consecrated ground. We've made some good progress as a species I think. I hope.
 
Thanks Phil, I've always wondered about the white thing, and strangely it's never entered my head to google the answer either, so finally now I know the answer.

Chic also with regard to the white, people here definitely wear white whenever they feel like it, although a man wearing a white linen suit in the lashing rain might have heads turning ..but of course you should be able to wear white whenever you like, and enjoy...perhaps if Marie Antoinette had been American she would have said ''let them wear white''..:D
 
I'm no prude (I'm a forty year vet!) but I think tolerance in certain areas has gone too far.

In my living room I hear language that my son also a vet, has never heard me use, and I see more flesh on the High Street than I do in my bedroom.

Some people have more sexual partners in a week than I've had in a lifetime (, no, that's not jealousy), and all in all I think people go on too much about their rights instead of their obligations.
 
While there's many aspects of behaviour that I don't agree with my attitude is as long as it doesn't hurt or interfere with other's safety or enjoyment of life I turn a blind eye. Too many people have too much interest in other people's bedrooms and lives. Live and let live.
 
While there's many aspects of behaviour that I don't agree with my attitude is as long as it doesn't hurt or interfere with other's safety or enjoyment of life I turn a blind eye. Too many people have too much interest in other people's bedrooms and lives. Live and let live.

That's it.

As the old saying goes, "And it harm ye none, do what thou whilst".
 
I didn't mean for people to get in a debate over specific the examples I cited. They are just that - examples, from the serious to the ridiculous. Just a gamut. I was looking for a general consensus.
 
I didn't mean for people to get in a debate over specific the examples I cited. They are just that - examples, from the serious to the ridiculous. Just a gamut. I was looking for a general consensus.

Consensus? Man did you come to the wrong place .Just sayin'.
 


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