Jane Fonda Arrested For Protesting In D.C.

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StarSong said:
What anti-war movement damage did she do that continues to affect us nearly 50 years later? I'm sincerely curious because I've never heard that argument.
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She brings dishonor to any anti-war demonstration she shows up at. If she showed up at an anti-war protest that I was at I would tell her to get the Ef out. I served in the Air Force for four years and did a full years tour of duty in Vietnam. I feel like I've earned the right to call bullshit on that war and any other one that I feel like calling bullshit on. I do not want to be associated with someone who took a photo-op in a North Vietnamese bunker.

As for her apologizing for her "mistake", she can stick that where the Sun don't shine.

Forgetting to pick up a quart of milk on the way home from work is a mistake that you can apologize for.

Taking a photo-op in an enemy bunker is not. There's no statute of limitations on something like that.
 

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Trade said:
She brings dishonor to any anti-war demonstration she shows up at. If she showed up at an anti-war protest that I was at I would tell her to get the Ef out. I served in the Air Force for four years and did a full years tour of duty in Vietnam. I feel like I've earned the right to call bullshit on that war and any other one that I feel like calling bullshit on. I do not want to be associated with someone who took a photo-op in a North Vietnamese bunker.
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Understood. Thank you for explaining your position.

As Americans we all have the right to call bullshit on wars though. Even Jane Fonda. Just saying.
 
StarSong said:
Even Jane Fonda. Just saying.
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I prefer she just stick to acting and keep her mouth shut.

When she goes out and demonstrates against a war she just gives ammunition to the pro-war people.

If you don't believe me just check out some of the posts from the "Patriots" in this thread.
 

norman said:
Respect your opinion, but maybe you should visit the Vietnam War Memorial and odds are one of your relative will be listed. As for meaningless sour grapes, maybe you should engage your brain before you open your mouth.
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Perhaps you should consider following your own suggestion. They died not for what but for who and the "who" are the politicians that knew the war was unwinnable and were too cowardly to pull out and LBJ said it best when he declared he would not be the first president to lose a war.
 
Agree with FM ^^. Jane Fonda is a scapegoat. She neither started the war nor was involved in the length of our involvement there.

Guess I'll tap out here. No need to get into an argument over something done by almost 50 years ago by someone none of us knows personally.
 
Now that I have trashed her for what she did in Vietnam I will say that I can compartmentalize when it comes to her acting. I especially liked her in the movie "Our souls at night"
 
StarSong said:
She has apologized numerous times for that incident. Glad that I'm not endlessly punished for every one of my life's missteps and errors in judgment.

https://startsat60.com/discover/news/jane-fonda-regrets-vietnam-war-gun-photo
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This is one of those “mistakes” that can’t be taken back. Unlike Trade, who can compartmentalize and enjoy her movies, I refuse to watch anything she has acted in. It’s the same as a person who crosses a picket line and becomes a scab. Once you have become a scab, you’re always going to be a scab. Once you’ve become a traitor, you’re always going to be a traitor.
 
Although I did (and still do) agree with Jane Fonda about that tragic, stupid war, which even the military honchos apologized for afterwards and called it a mistake, I will say this: What makes all these show biz celebrities such experts on every controversial subject? To hear some of them on the talk shows, they have some inside knowledge the rest of us mere mortals do not have. Pure ego, IMO.

I've heard some of them spouting about natural gas (they love to snarl the word "fracking,"). organic foods, naturopathic remedies, home schooling, spiritual awareness, gender issues, etc. Not to mention all the political statements they make. Why should their opinions on those subjects be any more respected than those of Joe Sixpack down the street? Name recognition, nothing more.
 
Geezerette said:
Whether right or wrong for us leaders of the time to have gotten us into it, she was among the leaders of treating returning military abominably, whether they were there by draft or what they believed to be patriotism. Some still suffering, even as the country tries to make it up to them all these years later. I believe in supporting efforts to combat climate change, But to do so without the support and interference of faded narcissistic sociopaths trying to grab headlines .
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I strongly agree. I knew a number of those who came back in boxes, and I know a number of those who are still suffering from what happened over there and I was married to one of them. None of them wanted to be there, but regardless of how they felt about that war, they did the honorable thing and went when their country called upon them to do so.

Protesting against a war is one thing; befriending and participating in propaganda for the enemy is quite another. AND being a key player in treating returning soldiers like scum is an obscenity.

I have no use whatsoever for Jane Fonda.
 
In this nation, each citizen has the right to object to whatever their cause may be.

Today, Ms Fonda has every right to issue her discontent regarding climate change; however, her behavior fifty years ago, in a nation that we were at war with was loathsome and unforgiveable.

We remember!
 
We have kind'a beat this dead horse as much as we can, we need to move on-some of us don't seem to be able to do that-I can't.
Fonda is a lighting rod, she has the ability to 'jerk my chain.'
I now tend to believe post #36, may be valid.

Do you remember this quote:

"As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don’t know we don’t know."
 
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I would agree with Jerry about beating a dead horse and bury the hatchet, The Vietnam War sets me off, sorry. I do note that Star called me OLD MAN. lol Yes I am old, my grand children call me Papaw and our favorite song line was ''grandpa tell me about the good ole days '' when I would tell them stories. They liked it when I would tell them about the wild strawberries as big as apples that grew in the pasture and a the wild rabbit I had made friends with who would tell me where the best berry patches were and the bridge that had a troll living under it, Around Halloween we drive over it to see if the troll would chase us, they claimed they did see the troll. Kind of sad as my grand children have children of there own now, Dat mak me uh a Great Papaw.
 
Squatting dog, I would replace the picture in the poster with a picture of another very famous person who dominating the news right now. With the same words under it. Got nothing else to add either.
 
I'm outta this thread too. The discussion has very strong political overtones. And discussing politics is how I got banned from three other forums. When it comes to politics I have a knack for making enemies right and left.

 
I’m not a right winger, I’m a centrist moderate with no party affiliation but also have 5 generations of war veterans in my family,Civil War, Spanish American War, WW II, Korean War, First Gulf War. Luckily all came home alive and functional, but I have nothing but contempt for anyone so called American who flaunts herself to support a country killing our people.
 
Had to think about Sunny's post for a moment-enlightenment knocked-'Oh yea, him.'

Taking the thread south, The post requesting info on cowboys, rodeos and all things western: Double HH states the OP has moved on.
Hmm, there is something attractive about posting on a dead thread.
 
norman said:
LOL... again I suggest you visit the Vietnam War Memorial. Just because Hanoi Jane is a woman it does not excuse her bad choices or ignorance. p.s. I love women, bet you had to google misogyny didn't you.
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You know nothing about me norman. I didn't have to google misogyny for its meaning or spelling. Just because the woman in question is a woman doesn't give you any credence to call her slut because she disagrees with you. It only shows ignorance and a gutter mentality.

I don't care who you love, as long as you do.

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If you have an infinite vocabulary, why not try using another word besides slut to indicate your displeasure? Google has many synonyms.
 
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