Many Women Will Never See Justice in This Lifetime

We must try to accept responsibility for life as we find it. Most single moms were not raped, point being that they are responsible for their motherhood.
What you say is harsh but is very often the case. There are so many irresponsible people who just don't seem to be able to deal with real life. It is also true that a large number of children would do better if they were raised in an institution, because many of them get into bad company and follow a life of crime. Irresponsible people do not make good parents.
 

At the same time, however, I do not understand how people who believe abortion is morally wrong conclude that laws legalizing abortion in some states and not others is an acceptable alternative to Roe v Wade.
Legal, safe abortions will always be available to women with financial means. Whether that means traveling to another state or another country, it will be attainable. Abortion restrictions affect people of color and the poor disproportionately. No surprise.

I once read a meme that said, "Abortion should be illegal in all cases - except if my innocent lamb of a daughter finds herself in trouble or my son's slutty girlfriend gets herself knocked up."
 
To answer your question, "Is abortion okay if a state allows it"...It depends. It's okay for those who believe it's okay but not okay for those who do not believe it's okay and yet are forced to support abortion while funding it with their taxes. It makes them feel as if they are being forced to say it's okay since they pay for it.

This divided choice of opinion has gone on for 50 years with NO resolution. Finally, there is a resolution not yet on the table...each state will decide pro-life or pro-abortion. The pro-abortion people win bigger because they can still choose to abort their babies in any state that allows it.

Pro-life people, who live in a state where abortion is allowed, must move if they don't want their taxes to support something they strongly don't believe in. Are you saying you want your way or the highway without any give and take?

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At the same time, however, I do not understand how people who believe abortion is morally wrong conclude that laws legalizing abortion in some states and not others is an acceptable alternative to Roe v Wade.
The Supreme Court did not assert that abortion is wrong or 'an acceptable alternative to Roe v Wade'. They said that the question was outside their jurisdiction. The court asserted that abortion is a matter of state's rights, a matter for the states to decide for themselves.
 
The Supreme Court did not assert that abortion is wrong or 'an acceptable alternative to Roe v Wade'. They said that the question was outside their jurisdiction. The court asserted that abortion is a matter of state's rights, a matter for the states to decide for themselves.
And I did not mention or refer to the Supreme Court decision or lack thereof. My comments were in reference to individual citizens who are okay with the turn of events regarding abortion.

No matter your viewpoint on this, abortion is legal in some states and not others at this point in time.
 
Yep, registration wasn't required from 1975-1980. President Jimmy Carter reintroduced the requirement for men born after January 1, 1960, to register with the Selective Service. Since I turned 18 in 1975, I was in the window where we didn't have to register.
I remember this act of Carter. It was outrageous and a plea for a second term. I remember being angry. I was living in Madison, WI. Have lovely pic from local paper of me/hub/baby son protesting. If I weren't sick, I'd go find it and read to you what my sign said.
 
And I did not mention or refer to the Supreme Court decision or lack thereof. My comments were in reference to individual citizens who are okay with the turn of events regarding abortion.
The 'turn of events' that you speak of was the Supreme Court decision!

If citizens disapprove, they could begin their protest by reading the decision
 
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Well who said life should be fair????
That's an argument?
The 'tun of events' that you speak of was the Supreme Court decision!
Yes, but also how the states ran with it. Looking at it there are two ways of seeing it: the higher power of the state and the higher power of an individual life's faith, belief, and what they they choose to do with it .
 
Yes, but also how the states ran with it. Looking at it there are two ways of seeing it: the higher power of the state and the higher power of an individual life's faith, belief, and what they they choose to do with it .
Absolutely. And when they don't like it, they could begin to fix it by learning, not by complaining.
 
The 'tun [turn] of events' that you speak of was the Supreme Court decision!

If citizens disapprove, they could begin their protest by reading the decision
As a favor, I corrected your spelling error for you, as you can see above.

You might want to stay on top of current news. Citizens have already begun protests.

Otherwise, I don't know what your point is, but if you feel good trying to make it, then shout it from the rooftop; proclaim it from the summit of Mount Everest.
 
What you say is harsh but is very often the case. There are so many irresponsible people who just don't seem to be able to deal with real life. It is also true that a large number of children would do better if they were raised in an institution, because many of them get into bad company and follow a life of crime. Irresponsible people do not make good parents.
 
What you say is harsh but is very often the case. There are so many irresponsible people who just don't seem to be able to deal with real life. It is also true that a large number of children would do better if they were raised in an institution, because many of them get into bad company and follow a life of crime. Irresponsible people do not make good parents.
Have you ever known anyone who was institutionalized because of inadequate parents? I've yet to hear a happy story from someone who was.

It's true that irresponsible people do not make good parents, neither it seems, do institutions.
 
I don't mean to be harsh either but what you just wrote seems mean to me. My mother was put in an orphanage several times because her father and his girl friend were too busy and the actual mother was too busy making babies elsewhere. Those are the people that belong in institutions.
 
As a favor, I corrected your spelling error for you, as you can see above.

You might want to stay on top of current news. Citizens have already begun protests.

Otherwise, I don't know what your point is, but if you feel good trying to make it, then shout it from the rooftop; proclaim it from the summit of Mount Everest.
My only point is that, when we have a problem, we fix it by understanding it thoroughly, rather than "shout it from the rooftop; proclaim it from the summit of Mount Everest."

But I see that I am annoying, so I'll leave it at that. Thank you for fixing my post.
 
The government has now exerted it's control and taken away the freedom women once had to be in control of their bodies. Nobody has ever been "forced" to support abortion. If you don't want to have an abortion...then don't.
The government has done nothing of the sort; we still have control over our bodies. This is all a bunch of garbage. The voters in each state decide if abortion is allowed in the state. No freedom has been taken away from women at all.

Not even certain what this "we want justice" is all about. Women can chose their destiny. They just need to do it and stop up their whining.
 
I suppose it was not fair of me to ask one person to clarify their post, while I was not clear on my own, so here goes.

I believe abortion is a matter between a woman and her doctor; period.

At the same time, however, I do not understand how people who believe abortion is morally wrong conclude that laws legalizing abortion in some states and not others is an acceptable alternative to Roe v Wade.
She is separating morality from voting rights. She accepts that voters spoke, not that it was right or wrong.
 
I don't mean to be harsh either but what you just wrote seems mean to me. My mother was put in an orphanage several times because her father and his girl friend were too busy and the actual mother was too busy making babies elsewhere. Those are the people that belong in institutions.
That must have been a terrible experience for your mom. I've known several adults who spent some or all of their childhoods in "caring institutions" or dreadful foster care. The horror stories they related were heartbreaking.
 


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