Mass Murderers. Mental Health Care Needs Help Without the Gov't. Stop Wasting Time Talking Guns. Fix These People Before it Happens

Yes. They said the mentally ill they turned out would be cared for, "in the community." Unfortunately the community didn't have the money or skills to care for all these people.

I partially blame, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." People thought all the psychiatric hospitals were run by Nurse Ratchet and the only thing the patients needed was a good pep talk from Jack Nicholson, and all their brain disease would just go away.

I'd like to see someone try that in other hospitals. Send all the people with kidney, liver and heart disease out into the world to care for themselves with a good talking to about pulling themselves up by their bootstraps.
 
Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon, has a net worth of $177 Billion as of April 20, 2021. Up $65 Billion since last year
He could take care of this in no time. You don't get more filthy rich than that.
What is he planning on doing with it? What is he waiting for??
 
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Nathan said:
Back in the 80's the federal government ended it's role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.
In the present day jails and prisons are loaded with inmates that have mental health problems.
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If memory serves me, I believe the ACLU had a major part in closing the places. Just as they have changed the prison system....IMHO....don
 
Forbes says Jeff Bezos net worth is $199 Billion....apparently it is multiplying at such a fast rate that it's hard to keep up with the updates.

Here's how he spends his money...buying Real Estate, a $75 Million Private Jet, and his Space Exploration Company....link below
Why not take care of his neighbors first!

https://www.businessinsider.com/jeff-bezos-net-worth-life-spending-2018-8#:~:text=Bezos'%20net%20worth%20is%20an,and%20his%20space%20exploration%20company.

Someday soon he can just buy China and Russia and we won't have to worry about them anymore.
 
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rgp said:
OK then, how'bout this. The very first time someone displays behaviour that is truly "mentally ill"] ....... euthanize them.

If not ? ............. We, as a society just keep rolling the dice. ...........You, or members of your family could be next.
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Members of my family are/were mentally ill. My uncle served and was at Pearl Harbor. He was never the same after the attack. Spent the entire rest of his life at home with his mom until she died. Then lived with a sister until he died. Never had a life.

And you would euthanize him?

JUST WHEN YOU THINK YOU COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE A LOWER OPINION OF SOMEONE’s OPINION, They reset the bar.
 
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Della said:
Yes. They said the mentally ill they turned out would be cared for, "in the community." Unfortunately the community didn't have the money or skills to care for all these people.

I partially blame, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." People thought all the psychiatric hospitals were run by Nurse Ratchet and the only thing the patients needed was a good pep talk from Jack Nicholson, and all their brain disease would just go away.

I'd like to see someone try that in other hospitals. Send all the people with kidney, liver and heart disease out into the world to care for themselves with a good talking to about pulling themselves up by their bootstraps.
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That happens now-if you are poor, if you have no adequate insurance, if you are colored.
 
Aneeda72 said:
That happens now-if you are poor, if you have no adequate insurance, if you are colored.
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Not in this country... everyone is equal regardless of colour or financial status when it comes to medical help..although if you have private medical insurance you'll get seen quicker, but that accounts for everyone.. no colour bar..I'm shocked that is still a thing in the USA... ( but for the sake of the no politics rule I won't say anything further, but I'm actually stunned, I thought all that colour prejudice was done and finished over there)
 
hollydolly said:
Not in this country... everyone is equal regardless of colour or financial status when it comes to medical help..although if you have private medical insurance you'll get seen quicker, but that accounts for everyone.. no colour bar..I'm shocked that is still a thing in the USA... ( but for the sake of the no politics rule I won't say anything further, but I'm actually stunned, I thought all that colour prejudice was done and finished over there)
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Really? You thought that? I’m stunned 😳.

I was sure you had heard, on the forum, of the Black Lives Matter movement, in the news from the USA of new restrictive voting measures in certain states, of the removal of certain statues from various buildings, and a certain southern flag, the protests, the riots, the unrest. You missed all that?

WOW. (The above mentioned topics are meant to be informative and not political.).
 
Well maybe this guy was mentally ill but nothing could prevent him from legally owning a gun or an arsenal.

Happened yesterday in Florida:

"During the news conference, Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said the shooting could have avoided if someone had said something to authorities. That's because Wall had posted on social media that he "wanted to kill people and children," Sheriff Bradshaw said.

The sheriff said Wall's ex-wife told detectives he'd been acting strangely before the shooting, saying he thought he was being followed and was paranoid."


https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/r...oting/67-dcdd6b19-4306-47fd-aa00-3bb9a5f82d81
 
Lara said:
As we put our heads together to "Fix our Mental Healthcare Facilities that are seriously understaffed, underpaid, overworked, unfunded...total failures...here are ideas we've started with:
1. Start making Good Use of Mainstream Media for a change to Educate our country on what is really going on, what we're lacking.
2. Get the attention of all the people with assets in the multi-billions.....
3. @hollydolly said: community control...see post #5
The Government isn't going to do anything...most of our mental facilities were closed a decade ago"
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JimBob1952 said:
Maybe the concept should be a sort of Mayo Clinic "center of excellence" for mental health at the national level, and local clinics/small hospitals for treatment at the local level.
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Murrmurr said:
If states would then be expected or maybe financially rewarded to follow the Center of Excellence model, that could work.

People need to expect and demand better. That's what I'm getting at.
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JimBob1952 said:
Couldn't agree with you more. Why we put up with medieval-era mental health practices (or 21st century overreliance on pharmaceuticals) is a mystery.

We could also save money. I remember seeing something to the effect that a homeless person typically costs his city hundreds of thousands of dollars in ER visits, police interventions and other activities over a few years. Getting that person treated (as most homeless people have mental health and/or substance abuse problems) and off the streets could easily pay for itself.
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These are only some ideas from posts 5, 26, 31, and 32 for how to help develop a solution to the mental health care issues that plague the mass murderers and to begin effective resolutions for our Mental Health Care system.
 
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The world is in such a mess, I suspect normally healthy, happy individuals are tipping over into mental illness. Not the poor souls with serious psychosis , just ordinary everyday folk and it’s terrifying.
 
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Aneeda72 said:
Really? You thought that? I’m stunned 😳.

I was sure you had heard, on the forum, of the Black Lives Matter movement, in the news from the USA of new restrictive voting measures in certain states, of the removal of certain statues from various buildings, and a certain southern flag, the protests, the riots, the unrest. You missed all that?

WOW. (The above mentioned topics are meant to be informative and not political.).
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No I didn't miss that, nor did I miss the million people here in London protesting on behalf of the BLM in the USA, but I presumed that they were essentially protesting about being picked on and arrested & even killed by the law more than whites for lesser crimes .....I had no idea that non-whites were sidelined in the USA when it comes to medical issues..none whatsoever.. that's just simply unbelievable and appalling
 
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Lara said:
I worked in a large USA hospital for 8 years and never once saw people of color treated differently than anyone else. But that is not what this thread is about. It's about intelligent solutions to the problems of mass murderers.
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I won't continue with this , because I don't want this thread closed down for being political.. but I'm pleased I saw your post Lara..thank goodness ,..
 
hollydolly said:
No I didn't miss that, nor did I miss the million people here in London protesting on behalf of the BLM in the USA, but I presumed that they were essentially protesting about being picked on and arrested & even killed by the law more than whites for lesser crimes .....I had no idea that non-whites were sidelined in the USA when it comes to medical issues..none whatsoever.. that's just simply unbelievable and appalling
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@hollydolly google the treatment of people of color in the USA by the medical profession. There is a recent study from 2019 that I saw.
 
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