Moral licensing! Are you a victim of it?

I don't believe this thread is REALLY about food.. but about moral actions.. Ralphy can correct me if I am wrong. He was only using food as an example. I believe the intent was to think about, if you are less than proud of your actions or choices in one moral area... do you over compensate in another area. As in the example I used.. if you yell at a store clerk during the day... do you double tip your waitress that evening to make up for your poor behavior earlier? OR another, do large contributions to charity make you feel justified in cheating a little bit on your taxes? Stuff like that.
 
Yes, yes! Another example is if a man cheats on his wife during the week and then goes to two church services on Sunday...:rolleyes:
 
Ralphy1 said:
Yes, yes! Another example is if a man cheats on his wife during the week and then goes to two church services on Sunday...:rolleyes:
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Or like my first husband did... buy me anything I wanted. I could never figure out why he would become so generous on occasion.... then I finally did... hahahahahahahaha
 
Ralphy1 said:
A 4:20? Have I missed something?
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Yes apparently you have. Having a 4:20 means smoking a joint... That started when the usually time for college kids to light up was in the afternoon after their final class for the day.. and that seemed to be pretty standard at about 4:20 in the afternoon.. Hence... the term got started.

But apparently there are other stories about how it got started.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/420-weed-day-marijuana-april-holiday_n_1437964.html
 
George Burns cheated and bought Gracie a beautiful sterling silver tea service. She was so pleased that she told a friend that she wished that he would cheat some more...:D
 
Morals are rules determined by society. If we don't consider ourselves part of that society we have no need for guilt or petty compensations.

Karma operates on its own, without our help. We just need to man-up and take our consequences.
 
Allowed to or just conformed to it because it felt comfortable, and also it allowed us get along with our peers at all stages of life...
 
IMO there is a definate value and health (both mental and physical) from being part of a society.. and feeling part of a society.. even if it means conformance. To NOT want to is sociopathic... no?
 
Ralphy1 said:
Allowed to or just conformed to it because it felt comfortable, and also it allowed us get along with our peers at all stages of life...
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That's the "allowed to" part. It's quite seductive.

QuickSilver said:
IMO there is a definate value and health (both mental and physical) from being part of a society.. and feeling part of a society.. even if it means conformance. To NOT want to is sociopathic... no?
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Yes, there is security and peer acceptance when you are part of a larger group. There is also loss of the individual and inability to live as YOU fully want to.

Sociopathic is just another one of those terms devised by society to label the "bad guys" ...
 
If we are talking strictly about mistreating another human being, instead of are we "victims" of "moral licensing", how about asking "Do you ever suffer from a guilty conscience"? If you never do, you may be a sociopath.
 
Underock1 said:
If we are talking strictly about mistreating another human being, instead of are we "victims" of "moral licensing", how about asking "Do you ever suffer from a guilty conscience"? If you never do, you may be a sociopath.
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But we are not strictly speaking of mistreating fellow humans, as has already been clarified in this thread.

Even though some fellow humans deserve mistreatment, as has also been stated by several respondents in several threads here.

And ... if one never suffers from a guilty conscience, perhaps one simply has never been guilty ...
 
A person would have to be inhuman indeed to have embraced a level of perfection where no moral imperative was needed. Imagine how annoying such an individual would be without any noticeable flaws. Ugh. Underock, glad I made you laugh.
 
SifuPhil said:
But we are not strictly speaking of mistreating fellow humans, as has already been clarified in this thread.

Even though some fellow humans deserve mistreatment, as has also been stated by several respondents in several threads here.

And ... if one never suffers from a guilty conscience, perhaps one simply has never been guilty ...
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Well now I feel like a victim of something, but I'm not sure what it is.
Sometimes its good to be dumb. :turnaround:
 
SifuPhil said:
But we are not strictly speaking of mistreating fellow humans, as has already been clarified in this thread.

Even though some fellow humans deserve mistreatment, as has also been stated by several respondents in several threads here.

And ... if one never suffers from a guilty conscience, perhaps one simply has never been guilty ...
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Well now I feel like a victim of something, but I'm not sure what it is.
Sometimes its good to be dumb. :turnaround:
 
Underock1 said:
Well now I feel like a victim of something, but I'm not sure what it is.
Sometimes its good to be dumb. :turnaround:
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A victim perhaps of excessive social conditioning, starting in childhood - that's what they did to ME, anyway.

... or tried to ... I beat them down with my wings. :angel:
 
SifuPhil said:
A victim perhaps of excessive social conditioning, starting in childhood - that's what they did to ME, anyway.

... or tried to ... I beat them down with my wings. :angel:
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Sorry for your unhappy upbringing. Mine was happy, but out of the norm. I didn't get enough social conditioning. :wiggle:
 

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