A friend of mine did that.I don't think they can arrest you if you decide to step in front of a train.
A friend of mine did that.I don't think they can arrest you if you decide to step in front of a train.
As for Nathan’s statement, he is correct. If a person gets hit by a train, there are only pieces to pick up. It’s no difference than when a semi hits a deer. There just isn’t a whole lot left.
Nathan, that’s what I attempted to explain by stating how doctors here can end a life with zero suffering by continually injecting drugs via IV to keep the patient in a medical provided coma and not fed. Supposedly, there is no pain.Having assisted dying available should cut down on such desperate and morbid means of ending the terminal suffering.
In the past few years voluntary assisted dying has become legal across most of Australia. While in New Zealand, patients must be terminally ill and expected to die within six months. That is extended to 12 months for those with a neurodegenerative condition in eligible parts of Australia.
In both countries, patients can self-administer the lethal medication. But it can also be administered by a doctor or nurse, usually via an intravenous injection.
Thanks! Good to know!I believe there are 10 states which allow assisted dying...since 1997..initially Oregon was the first..followed by...
California, Colorado, The District of Columbia, Hawaii, Montana, Maine, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington.
In most of these states, the law states that assisted dying is not considered suicide, assisted suicide, mercy killing, or homicide
It does seem like this could be a legal nightmare, when a bottle of pills could do the same thing. If the family can "pull the plug" when you're incompetent, why can't you "pull the plug" when you are competent?“the Bill will allow terminally ill, mentally competent adults - with less than six months to live -to seek an assisted death”
As one who supports this bill I have one question, what of those who have expressed a quick and easy passing beyond 6 months in the future but who now are now no longer “mentally competent” are they to suffer because their wishes do not fit within this criteria. Also what constitutes 'terminally ill'? We all are going to pass sooner or later and every medical professional will have a different idea of when that will probably occur, should someone decide to take this move I suspect the process would be enough to send you to the grave anyway!
Mine too. In college. She was born after Auschwitz. Her boyfriend, a Christian, was born in Germany. Their parents split them up. It took her days to die.A friend of mine did that.
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I agree. One good thing about the byegone days was almost everyone had access to heavy barbiturates which kill you fast.How have we let others decide how we going to die when we can decide for ourselves? How do they gain that power over us?
No-one in that state of mind is thinking of other people, you're correct. All they want is to end the pain, and end it as fast as possible..Suicide by train also screws up the whole system, for hours, affecting millions of people. So, I don't care for this method. Too disruptive to others, but who in that state is thinking of others?
which is what killed my mother !I agree. One good thing about the byegone days was almost everyone had access to heavy barbiturates which kill you fast.
That is just so very awfully tragic.That's great, though it sounds ridiculously restrictive. When my nephew was diagnosed with a degenerative disease he committed suicide years before he would have lost the ability to care for himself, because he didn't want to live like that, if he'd had the choice of assisted death without restrictions, maybe he would have stayed with us for longer.
That's true. But the resulting trauma for those that pick up the mess or drive the train would certainly deter me. Most train drivers who this happens to never drive a train again. (Info from a friend who was a British Transport Policeman)I don't think they can arrest you if you decide to step in front of a train.
NOpe sorry Mike I don't agree with any of this.... and I personally didn't mention that the Canadian system has been abused that was me copying an pasting information....I agree with your reasoning, hollydolly, but don't
agree with assisted dying!
They say that 2 Doctors and 1 Judge, will have to
authorise the permission, between them, that was the
result of the vote in Parliament, there was no mention,
that the person, wishing to end their own life, had to
administer the fatal injection on their own, if that was
included, I would be more likely to support the move.
But, give politicians the slightest gap to manoeuvre in
the wording, then they will, I think, start to euthanise some
healthy people, because they are a burden to the system,
no matter that they are healthy, but that they get a lot of
Financial support, from the Government, or that they not
healthy enough, too often.
There will be a clause stating that, if a person is too infirm,
to administer the lethal injection themselves, then another
person in the establishment will be authorised to administer
the shot.
Maybe you can see where I am coming from, without bullet
proof rules and regulations, it can be a charter to get rid of
people who do not fit into the, "Good Citizen", bracket with
our rulers!
As you mentioned, hollydolly, the system in Canada has been
abused, do any Canadians agree with this statement or are
you happy with the availability, of the regulation?
Mike.
Mike.
Absolutely true.Having assisted dying available should cut down on such desperate and morbid means of ending the terminal suffering.
I don't think Canada's system has been abused at all. A friend of ours chose it because he had bladder cancer and the dying process was extended and horrible. And people who are mentally ill (only), so far cannot get that assistance unless there are egregious conditions attached. Like a young man in Ontario who's brain made his body feel constant agonizing pain even though there was no illness involved. He was mostly bed ridden and no medications tried had ever helped. Unfortunately, he had to find a drug dealer to sell him heroin so that he had to OD in a motel room alone so his parents wouldn't get in trouble.I agree with your reasoning, hollydolly, but don't
agree with assisted dying!
They say that 2 Doctors and 1 Judge, will have to
authorise the permission, between them, that was the
result of the vote in Parliament, there was no mention,
that the person, wishing to end their own life, had to
administer the fatal injection on their own, if that was
included, I would be more likely to support the move.
But, give politicians the slightest gap to manoeuvre in
the wording, then they will, I think, start to euthanise some
healthy people, because they are a burden to the system,
no matter that they are healthy, but that they get a lot of
Financial support, from the Government, or that they not
healthy enough, too often.
There will be a clause stating that, if a person is too infirm,
to administer the lethal injection themselves, then another
person in the establishment will be authorised to administer
the shot.
Maybe you can see where I am coming from, without bullet
proof rules and regulations, it can be a charter to get rid of
people who do not fit into the, "Good Citizen", bracket with
our rulers!
As you mentioned, hollydolly, the system in Canada has been
abused, do any Canadians agree with this statement or are
you happy with the availability, of the regulation?
Mike.
Mike.
But drugs can be risky. A past coworker of mine had a friend who's sister tried to commit suicide with drugs and is now in a permanent vegetative state.which is what killed my mother !![]()